To my friends in the U.S. who are members of the tribe, do not listen to those who would take away your means of self-defense in return for some wishful, and wistful, guarantee against "gun violence". " Never again" means taking matters into your own hands and being prepared. If you have not done so already, go immediately to your local sporting goods store and buy a pump action shotgun (Remington 870 is a fine choice) and a couple of boxes of game loads. If you can handle the recoil of a 12 gauge, buy that one. If not, 20 gauge will work too. Then practice, practice, practice. When the enemy is at the gates, you will be ready.
I would if I could but my son (he being a retired NYPD Sergeant, is against ... however my grandson -- same profession and grade -- was very supportive). Go figure! PS -- I am a great grandmother, who would not hesitate to use whatever weapon(s) I could utilized. Am Yisroel Chai
The Brotherhood has never been popular with Palestinians. Hence why Hamas, the Palestinian branch, always obscured that fact. In fact, since 2019, Hamas has left the Muslim Brotherhood.
Al Jazeera isn’t Islamist. Most Palestinians are not true Islamists. For instance Sharia law is so unpopular that Hamas has refused to implement it.
It’s dubious that Palestinians are exterminationist antisemites or Nazis.
600 Samaritan Jews live quite peacefully in the West Bank. There are also a few Palestinian Jews in Lebanese refugee camps who call themselves Arab Jews who never accepted Israel and fled with the war. Also some anti Zionist Jews go live in the West Bank periodically. I know a Jew who used to live in Nablus part time.
Why don’t they start with them?
I’ve been on terribly antisemitic pro Palestinian forums, and even there calls for exterminating Israelis are rare and are sometimes specifically rejected. What you do hear over and over is “All the Jews will have to leave.” Not pretty but not extermination either. See below that Hamas won’t even go that far.
On these forums a number of people opposed the killing of civilians on 10-7, believe it or not. Targeting civilians inside Israel is a controversial idea in Palestinian society. 36% of Palestinians oppose the idea.
For the raid itself it was even controversial inside Hamas. Half of the leadership wanted to keep civilian casualties at an absolute minimum. In fact fighters were found with orders saying “kill civilians only as a last resort.”
However the other half of the leadership opted for mass murder.
This is probably why you saw weird behaviors like fighters shooting at any civilian they saw while others seemed to be going out of the way not to harm them except for taking hostages who they were ordered to treat well as they wanted them in good shape in captivity.
I have seen the actual plans that Hamas had for the conquest of Israel. It did NOT involve Jewish extermination. It was not pretty either.
It did call for killing Jews. For instance everyone in the IDF and Border Police would be killed. So that’s some serious mass murder.
However it did not call for killing any civilians.
Jewish civilians who fled would be allowed to stay but if they had committed crimes against Palestinians, they would go on trial.
Jewish civilians who surrendered would be allowed to stay. There was talk that some might be asked to leave. This part was unclear.
All skilled and talented Jews would not only be allowed but would actually be required to stay. As in they would not be allowed to leave! This is because their skills and expertise would be needed by the new state.
It would probably not be an an Islamic state like the Gulf states. Hamas has refused to impose Sharia in Gaza because too many Gazans care against it.
The Palestinians are exterminationist Nazis line is an invalid characterization.
Look at it this way The creation of a sovereign State of Israel after the Holocaust was one of the most significant acts in Jewish history which enabled the Jewish community to fight assimilation and assert its own identity but both the Holocaust and the establishment of the State of Israel should not be asserted as the basis for an ersatz sense of Jewish identity
My "Jewish identity" was developed by a Litvak grandmother, who could neither read nor write in any language but managed to instill within me a sense of justice, tolerance, compassion -- a unique instrument of teaching skills, cooking skills, etc. but the love she engendered bordered on the magnificent.
The correct term is ‘coward’. All terrorists are cowards who ‘fight’ by killing innocent women and children and claim they are winning in their struggle against some kind of tyranny, but they are cowards who would run away from fighting man to man 100% of the time.
They are not bound to ethics or moral compass: they remain an ignorant, soulless people (whose sojourn in the time of 1000 bc was "an accident" of civilization rather than a development)
Rise up and kill....
To my friends in the U.S. who are members of the tribe, do not listen to those who would take away your means of self-defense in return for some wishful, and wistful, guarantee against "gun violence". " Never again" means taking matters into your own hands and being prepared. If you have not done so already, go immediately to your local sporting goods store and buy a pump action shotgun (Remington 870 is a fine choice) and a couple of boxes of game loads. If you can handle the recoil of a 12 gauge, buy that one. If not, 20 gauge will work too. Then practice, practice, practice. When the enemy is at the gates, you will be ready.
I would if I could but my son (he being a retired NYPD Sergeant, is against ... however my grandson -- same profession and grade -- was very supportive). Go figure! PS -- I am a great grandmother, who would not hesitate to use whatever weapon(s) I could utilized. Am Yisroel Chai
Never ever again!
The Brotherhood has never been popular with Palestinians. Hence why Hamas, the Palestinian branch, always obscured that fact. In fact, since 2019, Hamas has left the Muslim Brotherhood.
Al Jazeera isn’t Islamist. Most Palestinians are not true Islamists. For instance Sharia law is so unpopular that Hamas has refused to implement it.
It’s dubious that Palestinians are exterminationist antisemites or Nazis.
600 Samaritan Jews live quite peacefully in the West Bank. There are also a few Palestinian Jews in Lebanese refugee camps who call themselves Arab Jews who never accepted Israel and fled with the war. Also some anti Zionist Jews go live in the West Bank periodically. I know a Jew who used to live in Nablus part time.
Why don’t they start with them?
I’ve been on terribly antisemitic pro Palestinian forums, and even there calls for exterminating Israelis are rare and are sometimes specifically rejected. What you do hear over and over is “All the Jews will have to leave.” Not pretty but not extermination either. See below that Hamas won’t even go that far.
On these forums a number of people opposed the killing of civilians on 10-7, believe it or not. Targeting civilians inside Israel is a controversial idea in Palestinian society. 36% of Palestinians oppose the idea.
For the raid itself it was even controversial inside Hamas. Half of the leadership wanted to keep civilian casualties at an absolute minimum. In fact fighters were found with orders saying “kill civilians only as a last resort.”
However the other half of the leadership opted for mass murder.
This is probably why you saw weird behaviors like fighters shooting at any civilian they saw while others seemed to be going out of the way not to harm them except for taking hostages who they were ordered to treat well as they wanted them in good shape in captivity.
I have seen the actual plans that Hamas had for the conquest of Israel. It did NOT involve Jewish extermination. It was not pretty either.
It did call for killing Jews. For instance everyone in the IDF and Border Police would be killed. So that’s some serious mass murder.
However it did not call for killing any civilians.
Jewish civilians who fled would be allowed to stay but if they had committed crimes against Palestinians, they would go on trial.
Jewish civilians who surrendered would be allowed to stay. There was talk that some might be asked to leave. This part was unclear.
All skilled and talented Jews would not only be allowed but would actually be required to stay. As in they would not be allowed to leave! This is because their skills and expertise would be needed by the new state.
It would probably not be an an Islamic state like the Gulf states. Hamas has refused to impose Sharia in Gaza because too many Gazans care against it.
The Palestinians are exterminationist Nazis line is an invalid characterization.
Look at it this way The creation of a sovereign State of Israel after the Holocaust was one of the most significant acts in Jewish history which enabled the Jewish community to fight assimilation and assert its own identity but both the Holocaust and the establishment of the State of Israel should not be asserted as the basis for an ersatz sense of Jewish identity
My "Jewish identity" was developed by a Litvak grandmother, who could neither read nor write in any language but managed to instill within me a sense of justice, tolerance, compassion -- a unique instrument of teaching skills, cooking skills, etc. but the love she engendered bordered on the magnificent.
Diaspora Jewish support for Israel was weak until 1967 here in the US. Jews here had a serious wake-up call then snd that’s when mass support began.
Never again! Carry this through to the end!!!!
The notions that both the Holocaust and the State rendered traditional forms of Jewish identity as lacking or worse theologically obsolete is wrong
The correct term is ‘coward’. All terrorists are cowards who ‘fight’ by killing innocent women and children and claim they are winning in their struggle against some kind of tyranny, but they are cowards who would run away from fighting man to man 100% of the time.
They are not bound to ethics or moral compass: they remain an ignorant, soulless people (whose sojourn in the time of 1000 bc was "an accident" of civilization rather than a development)