You provided very clear evidence and focus on the importance of Israel’s security. Israel has proven that it can be trusted with administering complicated solutions to maintain peace in the most contested area. In order to change the next generation of Arabs in Palestine, the “denazification” must occur similar to what happened in Germany and Japan after WW2.
Any bilateral problem is insoluble without good faith on both sides.
Israel has paid in blood, over and over for demonstrating good faith.
The ‘Palestinians’ - there is no good faith, only an unremitting determination for the erasure of Eretz Israel.
Given the repeated demonstration of ‘Palestinian’ intransigence, violence, murder and terrorism - who, WHO would trust the ‘Palestinians’ with their lives, the lives of their families or the future of their country.
The ‘Palestinians’ have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity and I’d bet they’ll miss the one now on offer.
Thank goodness for Bibi but thank goodness too for President Trump.
The Palestinians do not accept any of these conditions because they have no intention of EVER ending the conflict with Israel. They intend to make war and destroy Israel and will do so until the job is done. This is why the conflict continues.
The main problem with some Israeli politicians, intellectuals and part of the public itself is that there is still a delusion hovering in the air that the Arabs would wake up and come to terms with the existence of the Jewish State.
A history of 1400 years of Jewish persecution by Islam is not evidence enough.
There are plenty of books on the subject starting with the Quran, Hadith and Sira.
Even over a hundred years of terror and war against the Jews living in the Holy Land does not deflect this delusion from many in Israel and America.
The Oslo Disaster was the greatest con job of the 20th C.
The Trump Peace Plan is nice but it won't hold beyond the former con job.
Arafraud was the mastermind of deception, Qatar 🇶🇦 is right behind.
Their ultimate mission is the destruction of the Jewish people and the conquest of the West.
“We must also recognize, we must also respect, and we must also guarantee the safety and security of Israel. Only then we can have real peace.” — Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto, last week during his United Nations speech." It has always struck me that none of the Arab and Islamics like Iran face daily, yea, hourly attacks such as Israel has to endure while these countries openly or clandestinely support Hamas and their ilk.
"The Palestinians in turn recognized Israel’s right to exist."
Factually incorrect!
According to the universally adopted procedure of Robert's Rules of Order, amending a charter follows:
1. A member rises and gets recognized by the chair.
2. They propose the amendment by stating something like, "I move to amend the charter by adding/inserting/striking out/substituting...".
3. The amendment is seconded.
4. The amendment is debated and voted on first.
5. If adopted, the main motion (the charter as proposed) is then voted on by at least two thirds for adoption.
An amendment can be voted down, tabled (deferred to a specific time for a vote or indefinitely), amended itself, or adopted.
Only if the amendment is voted on and adopted is it considered ratified. and the original charter changed.
Presumably the amendments refers to the one Arafat proposed to the Palestine National Council (PNCT). They never voted on it. As a result, the amendment has not passed, and the the Palestinian National Charter remains unchanged. In other words, the Palestinians never recognized Israel.
"The nightmare scenario was clear: a Palestinian state armed to the teeth, with borders just kilometres from Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and hostile actors"
Not mention that the charters of all the hostiles surrounding still call for annihilation of Israel, the elimination of her population, and the establishment not of a state but a caliphate.
A caliphate is a specific type of Islamic state led by a single supreme religious and political figure, the caliph. The caliphate is founded on Islamic principles uniting both religious and temporal authority. On the other hand a state's legitimacy can stem from various sources like popular sovereignty or divine right. It does not include religious leadership as the foundational principle of legitimacy. The West has outgrown its version of a Caliphate, the Holy Roman Empire. The Arabs have not.
"A state on about 94 per cent of the West Bank"
What modern indigenous peoples has the world declared that the heartland of their historical, ancestral, homeland be ceded to a foreign, conquering, colonizing entity hell bent on wiping them off the face of the earth?
Jordan renamed historical Judea and Samaria as the West Bank to forever eliminate any connection the Jewish people had to it. The world loved the idea. And too many Jews have swallowed the kool aid, as witness how casual the author unhesitatingly uses the new designation with its obvious connotation that the area has nothing to do with Jews.
Interestingly, the Jordan Valley is the most naturally fertile area of Israel. The British and then the UN through the partition plan, wanted to give it to the arabs, leaving the Jews with sand, swampland, and scrub brush favoured only by goats.
"Palestinian territory does not exist in a vacuum."
Actually it does. A vacuum contains nothing. There is not now nor has there even been a historical Palestinian Territory conferring this group the right to self-determination. The Arabs of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. They are legally Sudetentland Arabs. By the established methods for determining peoplehood and national territories, they fail to meet the minimum criteria in each category. Not that that ever bothered the "progressives" be they Jews, Westerners, campus radicals, politicians, or the media. Legalities only apply when Jews are not involved.
"Until it is addressed with imagination, realism, and enforceable guarantees, any talk of statehood is just that: talk."
The term Realism sounds an awful lot like uber pragmatic Realpolitik. It is a poison pill the Israeli government it is not let itself to be maneuvered into a position where it is not forced to swallow the poison pill.
The harsh reality is that tiny democratic Israel (Jewish nation with 2 million Arabs) is in a neighbourhood of dysfunctional Arab countries run by monarchs, autocrats or dictators.
None of these Arab countries have any care for the palestinian people whose notion of being ‘a people’ only commenced in the 1960s.
Qatar, together with Iran and Turkey are the evil sponsors of terrorism.
There needs to be a paradigm shift in world politics, world organisations and palestinian leadership, if this region is to ever find peace.
You provided very clear evidence and focus on the importance of Israel’s security. Israel has proven that it can be trusted with administering complicated solutions to maintain peace in the most contested area. In order to change the next generation of Arabs in Palestine, the “denazification” must occur similar to what happened in Germany and Japan after WW2.
Yes. UNWAR must be replaced.
Good article.
Thank you.
Any bilateral problem is insoluble without good faith on both sides.
Israel has paid in blood, over and over for demonstrating good faith.
The ‘Palestinians’ - there is no good faith, only an unremitting determination for the erasure of Eretz Israel.
Given the repeated demonstration of ‘Palestinian’ intransigence, violence, murder and terrorism - who, WHO would trust the ‘Palestinians’ with their lives, the lives of their families or the future of their country.
The ‘Palestinians’ have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity and I’d bet they’ll miss the one now on offer.
Thank goodness for Bibi but thank goodness too for President Trump.
Am Yisrael Chai
Well said ..
The Palestinians do not accept any of these conditions because they have no intention of EVER ending the conflict with Israel. They intend to make war and destroy Israel and will do so until the job is done. This is why the conflict continues.
The main problem with some Israeli politicians, intellectuals and part of the public itself is that there is still a delusion hovering in the air that the Arabs would wake up and come to terms with the existence of the Jewish State.
A history of 1400 years of Jewish persecution by Islam is not evidence enough.
There are plenty of books on the subject starting with the Quran, Hadith and Sira.
Even over a hundred years of terror and war against the Jews living in the Holy Land does not deflect this delusion from many in Israel and America.
The Oslo Disaster was the greatest con job of the 20th C.
The Trump Peace Plan is nice but it won't hold beyond the former con job.
Arafraud was the mastermind of deception, Qatar 🇶🇦 is right behind.
Their ultimate mission is the destruction of the Jewish people and the conquest of the West.
Jerusalem is ONE city, there is no "east" Jerusalem. Stop using the enemy's terms.
“We must also recognize, we must also respect, and we must also guarantee the safety and security of Israel. Only then we can have real peace.” — Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto, last week during his United Nations speech." It has always struck me that none of the Arab and Islamics like Iran face daily, yea, hourly attacks such as Israel has to endure while these countries openly or clandestinely support Hamas and their ilk.
"The Palestinians in turn recognized Israel’s right to exist."
Factually incorrect!
According to the universally adopted procedure of Robert's Rules of Order, amending a charter follows:
1. A member rises and gets recognized by the chair.
2. They propose the amendment by stating something like, "I move to amend the charter by adding/inserting/striking out/substituting...".
3. The amendment is seconded.
4. The amendment is debated and voted on first.
5. If adopted, the main motion (the charter as proposed) is then voted on by at least two thirds for adoption.
An amendment can be voted down, tabled (deferred to a specific time for a vote or indefinitely), amended itself, or adopted.
Only if the amendment is voted on and adopted is it considered ratified. and the original charter changed.
Presumably the amendments refers to the one Arafat proposed to the Palestine National Council (PNCT). They never voted on it. As a result, the amendment has not passed, and the the Palestinian National Charter remains unchanged. In other words, the Palestinians never recognized Israel.
"The nightmare scenario was clear: a Palestinian state armed to the teeth, with borders just kilometres from Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and hostile actors"
Not mention that the charters of all the hostiles surrounding still call for annihilation of Israel, the elimination of her population, and the establishment not of a state but a caliphate.
A caliphate is a specific type of Islamic state led by a single supreme religious and political figure, the caliph. The caliphate is founded on Islamic principles uniting both religious and temporal authority. On the other hand a state's legitimacy can stem from various sources like popular sovereignty or divine right. It does not include religious leadership as the foundational principle of legitimacy. The West has outgrown its version of a Caliphate, the Holy Roman Empire. The Arabs have not.
"A state on about 94 per cent of the West Bank"
What modern indigenous peoples has the world declared that the heartland of their historical, ancestral, homeland be ceded to a foreign, conquering, colonizing entity hell bent on wiping them off the face of the earth?
Jordan renamed historical Judea and Samaria as the West Bank to forever eliminate any connection the Jewish people had to it. The world loved the idea. And too many Jews have swallowed the kool aid, as witness how casual the author unhesitatingly uses the new designation with its obvious connotation that the area has nothing to do with Jews.
Interestingly, the Jordan Valley is the most naturally fertile area of Israel. The British and then the UN through the partition plan, wanted to give it to the arabs, leaving the Jews with sand, swampland, and scrub brush favoured only by goats.
"Palestinian territory does not exist in a vacuum."
Actually it does. A vacuum contains nothing. There is not now nor has there even been a historical Palestinian Territory conferring this group the right to self-determination. The Arabs of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. They are legally Sudetentland Arabs. By the established methods for determining peoplehood and national territories, they fail to meet the minimum criteria in each category. Not that that ever bothered the "progressives" be they Jews, Westerners, campus radicals, politicians, or the media. Legalities only apply when Jews are not involved.
"Until it is addressed with imagination, realism, and enforceable guarantees, any talk of statehood is just that: talk."
The term Realism sounds an awful lot like uber pragmatic Realpolitik. It is a poison pill the Israeli government it is not let itself to be maneuvered into a position where it is not forced to swallow the poison pill.
@Adam, great piece. Long but worthwhile.
The harsh reality is that tiny democratic Israel (Jewish nation with 2 million Arabs) is in a neighbourhood of dysfunctional Arab countries run by monarchs, autocrats or dictators.
None of these Arab countries have any care for the palestinian people whose notion of being ‘a people’ only commenced in the 1960s.
Qatar, together with Iran and Turkey are the evil sponsors of terrorism.
There needs to be a paradigm shift in world politics, world organisations and palestinian leadership, if this region is to ever find peace.
Let’s see what Hamas says or doesn’t say