For much of the world there is no difference between the attempted genocide of October 7 and any other terror attack committed by the Palestinians. Neither justifies a military response. Neither is cause for the total elimination of Hamas or even a rethinking of the wisdom of rewarding the Palestinians with a state. I am not referring to the radical Marxists and their fellow travelers who are menacing Jews throughout the Western world. I am referring to the ordinary establishments including the not lamented late Biden administration and most other Western governments as well as all non Conservative media. Within days of the event we heard the familiar demands to reward the genociders with a state of their own.
The ability to learn and understand, hatred limits things, does not reduce potential IQ, but directs it in a certain direction, it is the sum of many things that every person has absorbed in their life in the so-called mother's milk, IQ is not the sum of one thing, as in many animal species, even if at worst the words and actions of some people resemble each other.
Humans are the only creatures capable of questioning their own existence and origin. If you don't believe it, ask a scientist who believes in evolution.
Your point is very well taken, corroborated by the rush of so many western leaders to express sympathy for Palestinian murderers while excoriating Israel for its response to the invasion of October 7 and the horrific savagery of normal Palestinians. The West is so morally corrupt it has no future; but it does not yet know that.
Too many generalities thrown around to be really valuable. War is indeed hell and one of the horrible paradoxes of reality is that horrible things, definitely evil in a sane context, are done to win a war. Dresden and Tokyo were fire-bombed, nukes were dropped, flamethrowers deployed on human enemies in the Pacific campaign… all seen as necessary to end evil. Moral calculus is fraught with pitfalls.
Please don’t get me wrong . Hamas is indeed evil personified, Israel does face a truly existential crisis, and real antisemites are crawling out of the woodwork from every direction and seemingly every institution. Israel has every moral right to survive, it must survive, I believe it will survive and continue to contribute to and benefit the world in general. Also that Israel seems to go out of its way to decrease civilian casualty to a very serious extent, and even to its own detriment at times. This does not mean that a lot of horrible shit is not gonna be done along the way. It is a broken world. May God forgive us all.
Anti Semitism knows no philosophical boundaries and rears itself when Jewish communities feel too comfortable in the Diaspora and when assimilation reaches alarmingly high levels
It is psychopathy. Social insanity. Involving every single agency from Feminists who did not raise a single voice at the rape and sexual violence of Oct 7, to the now common spiel of “disparity” coming out of the self aggrandized Fatherhood of the gleaming Vatican. It is one wholly perverse lie. Israel must execute justice plus retrieve the land as is done in all warfare where one is attacked.
Have humans ever been able to recognize pure evil? The only evil we recognize are in fables and stories where they are always accompanied by deities that fight for us. Hamas is evil personified, xenophobia seems too mild an excuse to look the other way.
Oh yes, we recognize evil, but never in ourselves, only in an "other",(which historically has been from which the wellspring of antisemitism rises. Else how can we justify the inhumanity and horrendous behaviors that we heap upon the other. "They made me do it." Jews, the smallest religious group on the planet have always been easy pickings for this.
Thank you for your comment. Two thoughts: Being evil doesn’t necessarily mean you recognize evil in yourself. Secondly, making excuses for bad actors strikes me as an acknowledgement that they don’t recognize actual evil. Humans are definitely the worst beings on earth.
I should clarify, yes we recognize evil, even in ourselves, but we cannot bring ourselves to admit it, it is too much to truly bear, so we rely on projection & excuse- they made me do it, else we could never truly meet our maker & believe we are “good” in his eyes & worthy of heaven or whatever reward you believe in (if any). I agree - Of all the creatures on earth, human are by far the most vicious.
Some hate us for our ethnicity, some hate us for our faith and some hate us for both our faith and ethnicity. When hate gives way to violence my 1911-A1 will not discriminate.
"Thinking back upon that childhood Passover experience finding the afikoman reminded me of one of the most persistent and harmful stereotypes against Jews that has harrowed our people for centuries." 🔯 More at JEWDICIOUS: https://tinyurl.com/5dfhfp8z
So the hypothesis here is that today's oppressor vs oppressed / white people vs people of color harks all the way back to post-WW2 guilt? I'm not sure that makes sense. I thought that was a fairly recent invention of other last 20 years or so (although I could be wrong). Also, the Jews were on the oppressed side then, and now they're always represented as being the oppressors. What am I missing?
Anti-Semitism is a Christian creation, without the Christian religion there would be no anti-Semitism. Its basis was the so-called, death of Jesus on the cross. (True or not) The promises that were to the descendants of Jacob, (the kingdom) etc. Now concerned the Christian religion. Otherwise the battles in the past were independent of religions.
Many have tried to build the kingdom that is written in the Tanakh, of which Hitler was the last, he also tried it, where there would be no Jews, but his understanding of what the Tanakh contains, (an illusion created by the Hellenistic school of clergy) about the kingdom was limited. The damage has already been done, and it cannot be removed from the world, without breaking into religions, and banning a religion called Christians.
No, antisemitism started with the Egyptians, who taught it to the Greeks, who taught it to the Romans, who taught it to the Christians, who taught it to the Muslims. Antisemitism has been with us almost as long as there have been Jews. It comes from refusing to do what the rest of the group does. They take it personally, it makes them question their core beliefs and behaviors, and that is intolerable, so we must be killed.
The history you mentioned cannot be called anti-Semitism, as it had nothing to do with the Jewish people's hatred of the changes in their inheritance of the promises written in the Tanakh. Some of the 12 tribes suffered for their own mistakes long before religions existed in the sense in which religions are understood today.
The 12 tribes were warned and urged many times to return to the teachings of the Torah, and reminded of what will happen when you are stubborn. The Torah is very clear about this. I could ask about Egypt, what time do you say it refers to, 1 slavery 2 beliefs based on the various beliefs of the Roman Empire before the time of the Christians. Not even the Romans murdered the Jews because they had received promises from God, but because they rebelled and were the first in the world to wage so-called guerrilla warfare. What Christians have recorded in the Acts of the Apostles is largely a falsification of the truth, almost every accusation can be defined as a lie, I personally consider it a seed of anti-Semitism.
I am grateful for everything to the יהוה of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, without the Torah I would not trust Him, and without the presence of Jews in the world, nothing would prove His existence.
Anti-Semitism itself cannot be defined before 325, although many Jews died in wars, as always happens in wars, but those who survived were not killed just because they belonged to the 12 tribes, they were taken as slaves, and they had freedoms, unlike after 325, freedom was obtained when you abandoned the faith of your fathers and the Torah, and even that was no guarantee. so deep was the Christians' distrust of the Jews. In a constricted free society, I've been able to research the history of Christianity itself as much as church history, and it's not a pretty story. I don't confess and I don't belong to the Christian community, a rotten tree does not produce good fruit, no matter how well you till the ground and fertilize it.
Countless times I have mourned and wept over the pain we Gentiles have caused the Jews, simply because countless Jews have been murdered because of a lie. That's the message of antisemitism. A LIE.
No one forbids you from thinking like that. But it was not anti-Semitic. The background and purpose of the wars was to conquer territories, as Russia does today, and they were not based on nationalistic hatred. As it is now, so in ancient times there was a desire to grow and become rich without having to trade. Anti-Semitism is a religious disease and the church has planted Jewish hatred, now it has only spread outside the church, and you Jews are its fuel. Jealousy, bitterness and hatred are in the same purse.
I respectfully disagree as I believe the book of Esther precedes the existence of Christian religion in time and so does Hanukkah (probably not by much).
Yes, I know the book of Esther, but one person's anger can be used as a metaphor for the anger of a minority, it is not prohibited. But, Anti-Semitism doesn't need a king.
It is the Christian religion that is being persecuted.
Christians are being murdered slaughtered, and persecuted around the world.
As a Christian I love the Jewish people. They are gods chosen people. We are of the same branch.
“More than 380 million Christians around the world are facing persecution and discrimination for their faith, according to Open Doors' World Watch List.
This includes "Christians facing a lack of legal recognition or protection due to their faith" and "Christians who suffer persecution or discrimination in the context of displacement, often caused by violent conflict."
Every religion has its own servants (believers) regarding the persecution of Christians, I can't find a point of convergence with the scriptures.
I am not going to enter into a religious debate here, but the New Testament itself does not confirm Christianity. Its history of origin is 325 years younger and the history of the New Testament is even younger, and it is not based on the truth with the Tanakh writings. Those writings speak to the Jews about the time to come.
Those baptized as Christians die largely only because societies practice policies that oppress weaker and poorer societies, belief and so-called religion have no greater significance. In this war, religion is just one excuse, a means of revenge, against a superior power that limits their lives. Extreme terrorism has been harnessed for this, because normal warfare with Western societies is unbalanced.
You are right, it does not confirm, but the New Testament cannot be ignored when talking about anti-Semitism, or its source. The Acts of the Apostles is the first work that presents in writing the things that led to the persecution of Christians. In the history of the church, there is also written information on whether to kill or torture and leave as a deterrent or banish. The church does not have a single opinion, some communities have a strong will to convert Jews to Christianity. They flatter the Jews, even though the New Testament teaches that pagan believers become adopted children to Israel, Isaiah 56, John 17 and Romans 11. However, the church does not recognize or teach this. You probably understand that all religions have their own believers, some are actively involved and a large majority just follow their traditions.
I myself am Torah observant, I am not a member of a religious community, and thus I do not call myself a so-called believer as religious communities do. Although I trust the teachings of the Torah, and insofar as they concern me. nay as a Jew I live my life to the best of my ability.
I also won't discuss religions, but that cannot be ignored when discussing anti-Semitism.
For much of the world there is no difference between the attempted genocide of October 7 and any other terror attack committed by the Palestinians. Neither justifies a military response. Neither is cause for the total elimination of Hamas or even a rethinking of the wisdom of rewarding the Palestinians with a state. I am not referring to the radical Marxists and their fellow travelers who are menacing Jews throughout the Western world. I am referring to the ordinary establishments including the not lamented late Biden administration and most other Western governments as well as all non Conservative media. Within days of the event we heard the familiar demands to reward the genociders with a state of their own.
Hatred for Jews , dumbs down any IQ. However, it also requires a certain type of personality that can hate Jews.
The ability to learn and understand, hatred limits things, does not reduce potential IQ, but directs it in a certain direction, it is the sum of many things that every person has absorbed in their life in the so-called mother's milk, IQ is not the sum of one thing, as in many animal species, even if at worst the words and actions of some people resemble each other.
Humans are the only creatures capable of questioning their own existence and origin. If you don't believe it, ask a scientist who believes in evolution.
Your point is very well taken, corroborated by the rush of so many western leaders to express sympathy for Palestinian murderers while excoriating Israel for its response to the invasion of October 7 and the horrific savagery of normal Palestinians. The West is so morally corrupt it has no future; but it does not yet know that.
Too many generalities thrown around to be really valuable. War is indeed hell and one of the horrible paradoxes of reality is that horrible things, definitely evil in a sane context, are done to win a war. Dresden and Tokyo were fire-bombed, nukes were dropped, flamethrowers deployed on human enemies in the Pacific campaign… all seen as necessary to end evil. Moral calculus is fraught with pitfalls.
Please don’t get me wrong . Hamas is indeed evil personified, Israel does face a truly existential crisis, and real antisemites are crawling out of the woodwork from every direction and seemingly every institution. Israel has every moral right to survive, it must survive, I believe it will survive and continue to contribute to and benefit the world in general. Also that Israel seems to go out of its way to decrease civilian casualty to a very serious extent, and even to its own detriment at times. This does not mean that a lot of horrible shit is not gonna be done along the way. It is a broken world. May God forgive us all.
Well said.
Anti Semitism knows no philosophical boundaries and rears itself when Jewish communities feel too comfortable in the Diaspora and when assimilation reaches alarmingly high levels
It is psychopathy. Social insanity. Involving every single agency from Feminists who did not raise a single voice at the rape and sexual violence of Oct 7, to the now common spiel of “disparity” coming out of the self aggrandized Fatherhood of the gleaming Vatican. It is one wholly perverse lie. Israel must execute justice plus retrieve the land as is done in all warfare where one is attacked.
Have humans ever been able to recognize pure evil? The only evil we recognize are in fables and stories where they are always accompanied by deities that fight for us. Hamas is evil personified, xenophobia seems too mild an excuse to look the other way.
Oh yes, we recognize evil, but never in ourselves, only in an "other",(which historically has been from which the wellspring of antisemitism rises. Else how can we justify the inhumanity and horrendous behaviors that we heap upon the other. "They made me do it." Jews, the smallest religious group on the planet have always been easy pickings for this.
Thank you for your comment. Two thoughts: Being evil doesn’t necessarily mean you recognize evil in yourself. Secondly, making excuses for bad actors strikes me as an acknowledgement that they don’t recognize actual evil. Humans are definitely the worst beings on earth.
I should clarify, yes we recognize evil, even in ourselves, but we cannot bring ourselves to admit it, it is too much to truly bear, so we rely on projection & excuse- they made me do it, else we could never truly meet our maker & believe we are “good” in his eyes & worthy of heaven or whatever reward you believe in (if any). I agree - Of all the creatures on earth, human are by far the most vicious.
I agree.
Some hate us for our ethnicity, some hate us for our faith and some hate us for both our faith and ethnicity. When hate gives way to violence my 1911-A1 will not discriminate.
“Better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.” Zev Jabotinsky.
"Thinking back upon that childhood Passover experience finding the afikoman reminded me of one of the most persistent and harmful stereotypes against Jews that has harrowed our people for centuries." 🔯 More at JEWDICIOUS: https://tinyurl.com/5dfhfp8z
So the hypothesis here is that today's oppressor vs oppressed / white people vs people of color harks all the way back to post-WW2 guilt? I'm not sure that makes sense. I thought that was a fairly recent invention of other last 20 years or so (although I could be wrong). Also, the Jews were on the oppressed side then, and now they're always represented as being the oppressors. What am I missing?
Excellent essay, Liah! Thank you
Anti-Semitism is a Christian creation, without the Christian religion there would be no anti-Semitism. Its basis was the so-called, death of Jesus on the cross. (True or not) The promises that were to the descendants of Jacob, (the kingdom) etc. Now concerned the Christian religion. Otherwise the battles in the past were independent of religions.
Many have tried to build the kingdom that is written in the Tanakh, of which Hitler was the last, he also tried it, where there would be no Jews, but his understanding of what the Tanakh contains, (an illusion created by the Hellenistic school of clergy) about the kingdom was limited. The damage has already been done, and it cannot be removed from the world, without breaking into religions, and banning a religion called Christians.
No, antisemitism started with the Egyptians, who taught it to the Greeks, who taught it to the Romans, who taught it to the Christians, who taught it to the Muslims. Antisemitism has been with us almost as long as there have been Jews. It comes from refusing to do what the rest of the group does. They take it personally, it makes them question their core beliefs and behaviors, and that is intolerable, so we must be killed.
The history you mentioned cannot be called anti-Semitism, as it had nothing to do with the Jewish people's hatred of the changes in their inheritance of the promises written in the Tanakh. Some of the 12 tribes suffered for their own mistakes long before religions existed in the sense in which religions are understood today.
The 12 tribes were warned and urged many times to return to the teachings of the Torah, and reminded of what will happen when you are stubborn. The Torah is very clear about this. I could ask about Egypt, what time do you say it refers to, 1 slavery 2 beliefs based on the various beliefs of the Roman Empire before the time of the Christians. Not even the Romans murdered the Jews because they had received promises from God, but because they rebelled and were the first in the world to wage so-called guerrilla warfare. What Christians have recorded in the Acts of the Apostles is largely a falsification of the truth, almost every accusation can be defined as a lie, I personally consider it a seed of anti-Semitism.
I am grateful for everything to the יהוה of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, without the Torah I would not trust Him, and without the presence of Jews in the world, nothing would prove His existence.
Anti-Semitism itself cannot be defined before 325, although many Jews died in wars, as always happens in wars, but those who survived were not killed just because they belonged to the 12 tribes, they were taken as slaves, and they had freedoms, unlike after 325, freedom was obtained when you abandoned the faith of your fathers and the Torah, and even that was no guarantee. so deep was the Christians' distrust of the Jews. In a constricted free society, I've been able to research the history of Christianity itself as much as church history, and it's not a pretty story. I don't confess and I don't belong to the Christian community, a rotten tree does not produce good fruit, no matter how well you till the ground and fertilize it.
Countless times I have mourned and wept over the pain we Gentiles have caused the Jews, simply because countless Jews have been murdered because of a lie. That's the message of antisemitism. A LIE.
You’re still debating??
The pagan Romans and Greeks and the Persians displayed substantial Jew hatred long before Christianity came to the world stage.
No one forbids you from thinking like that. But it was not anti-Semitic. The background and purpose of the wars was to conquer territories, as Russia does today, and they were not based on nationalistic hatred. As it is now, so in ancient times there was a desire to grow and become rich without having to trade. Anti-Semitism is a religious disease and the church has planted Jewish hatred, now it has only spread outside the church, and you Jews are its fuel. Jealousy, bitterness and hatred are in the same purse.
I respectfully disagree as I believe the book of Esther precedes the existence of Christian religion in time and so does Hanukkah (probably not by much).
Yes, I know the book of Esther, but one person's anger can be used as a metaphor for the anger of a minority, it is not prohibited. But, Anti-Semitism doesn't need a king.
See, this right here.
It is the Christian religion that is being persecuted.
Christians are being murdered slaughtered, and persecuted around the world.
As a Christian I love the Jewish people. They are gods chosen people. We are of the same branch.
“More than 380 million Christians around the world are facing persecution and discrimination for their faith, according to Open Doors' World Watch List.
This includes "Christians facing a lack of legal recognition or protection due to their faith" and "Christians who suffer persecution or discrimination in the context of displacement, often caused by violent conflict."
https://www.newsweek.com/christians-extreme-persecution-around-world-2038364
Every religion has its own servants (believers) regarding the persecution of Christians, I can't find a point of convergence with the scriptures.
I am not going to enter into a religious debate here, but the New Testament itself does not confirm Christianity. Its history of origin is 325 years younger and the history of the New Testament is even younger, and it is not based on the truth with the Tanakh writings. Those writings speak to the Jews about the time to come.
Those baptized as Christians die largely only because societies practice policies that oppress weaker and poorer societies, belief and so-called religion have no greater significance. In this war, religion is just one excuse, a means of revenge, against a superior power that limits their lives. Extreme terrorism has been harnessed for this, because normal warfare with Western societies is unbalanced.
You seem like you want to debate. I’ll pass!
I’ll pass What?
“I am not going to enter into a religious debate here, but the New Testament itself does not confirm Christianity.”
Tongue and cheek 😆 👆👆👆
You are right, it does not confirm, but the New Testament cannot be ignored when talking about anti-Semitism, or its source. The Acts of the Apostles is the first work that presents in writing the things that led to the persecution of Christians. In the history of the church, there is also written information on whether to kill or torture and leave as a deterrent or banish. The church does not have a single opinion, some communities have a strong will to convert Jews to Christianity. They flatter the Jews, even though the New Testament teaches that pagan believers become adopted children to Israel, Isaiah 56, John 17 and Romans 11. However, the church does not recognize or teach this. You probably understand that all religions have their own believers, some are actively involved and a large majority just follow their traditions.
I myself am Torah observant, I am not a member of a religious community, and thus I do not call myself a so-called believer as religious communities do. Although I trust the teachings of the Torah, and insofar as they concern me. nay as a Jew I live my life to the best of my ability.
I also won't discuss religions, but that cannot be ignored when discussing anti-Semitism.