The UK wants to recognize a Palestinian state based on bizarre logic. Hamas is thrilled, of course — but what happens when we apply the British prime minister’s own reasoning to the Palestinians?
The same nations which refused to allow European Jewry to escape the Holocaust and which collaborated enthusiastically in the Holocaust now reward the perpetrators of 10/7
Your commentary is 100 percent correct but not complete as in your historical narrative you skip over the main event which led to the mess we have today.
What if Kier Starmer had said “I recognize the role that Great Britain has played in denying the Palestinians a state when we took 77% of Palestine and unilaterally gave it to the Hashemite tribe from Saudii Arabia. Today I apologize to the Palestinian people, renounce the creation of TransJordan and call on the King Abdullah to abdicate his throne so the Palestinians can establish their state side by side with Israel.
Now that would have been Katie Byron turnaround technique.
If Israel ceased to exist to-morrow and was replaced by an Arab,”Palestinian” state it would be only days before is was carved up between Egypt, Syria Lebanon and Jordan - let’s be real- the late King of Egypt told Yassir Arafat in no uncertain terms that there never was an Arab Palestinian state- in fact the only people prior to 1948 who called themselves Palestinians we the Jews!
The unspoken constant here is that The Final Solution is still a foundational goal. England and France are being coy about it but their actions towards Israel and their Jewry for quite a while indicate it's been very much on since the UN declared Zionism = racism back in the '70s. We need to admit that the UK and France are not friends to Israel and Jewry in general, they are not neutral, they are enemies, they just would prefer that someone else fight their war for them. Someone brown who they can say is a noble savage, uncontrollably bloodthirsty but conveniently and justifiably so, because who could bear to have us Jews in their midst?
The Muslim population in Britain now is only 20%, although a large proportion of this is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. You would think a 20% population would not tip a country over, would not control a country, but a country afraid of a minority of its population and afraid to push back against this minority has been conquered.
Yesterday I heard a podcast that foretold a civil war between Muslims and Christians in the UK similar to the Troubles in Ireland. Frankly I wonder if the Christians will fight back, or if they will just roll over and accept Sharia law without a whimper. Frankly I wonder that about all of Europe.
“Only 20%”? If 20% of the population is comprised of feral hate filled animals that want to subjugate the remaining 80% and kill all the Jews in the process, that’s a BIG problem. In the great tradition of Neville Chamberlain, the Brits bow down to the aggressor, hoping placation will result in preservation. They won’t see the light until it’s too late and I don’t see any Churchill’s to come along and save them.
I wonder what Kier’s Jewish wife thinks of all this, but then she did marry him and might well be cheering him on to punish those of us among the Jews who are less enlightened than she.
"In the UK, Muslims constitute approximately 6.5% of the total population. This translates to roughly 3.9 million individuals identifying as Muslim out of the overall UK population. This figure represents an increase from 4.9% in 2011, according to the Office for National Statistics. "
I actually meant the government, or an opposition party. But really yes, since there is no longer free speech, the only way to fight back is the way the Irish did, in the Troubles. That would only lead to death and destruction. Which will also happen when the churches all start to burn and conversion or death becomes the order of the day.
It is interesting to note the relationship between the way countries and empires treat Jews and their fate- The Babylonians, the Persians, the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, English, Germans and Muslim nations each mistreated the Jews and have either been relegated to history or have become mere shells of their former selves.
Fascinating how G-d protects his people and punishes those who mistreat them.
We are living in biblical times. If only people would wake up from their malaise.
Absolutely! You have to be willing to put aside niceties and put on your warrior hat and decimate the enemy. Then, when that enemy unconditionally surrenders you can go back to playing nice. "If you want to play in my sandbox, you have to follow my rules." Simple.
This man is the unpopular and despised Prime Minister. He is a complete and utter imbecile. It makes me ashamed of my country! I hope Israel will sanction him and show how utterly useless he is.
We now have 30 years of experience to understand that the premise of Oslo, that Israel and the Palestinians, represented by the PLO, would negotiate in good faith for a "two state" solution, was a catastrophic disaster and a lie from the start. We now know that 1. Palestinianism has one goal, the end of Israel and murder or exile of its people. Period. 2. That contrary to the premise of Oslo, the world does not see the process as a good faith negotiation but as a method of Israeli surrender of its sovereignty and security through the creation of an entity on its border 100 percent dedicated to its destruction. Israel needs to force its way out of this paradigm. It needs to tell the truth. That Oslo was premised on a lie. That Israel will not permit a terror state to be created on its border and will act to destroy it if necessary and that when the enemy is ready for peace and not murder Israel will be there.
I have an impression that "Palestinianists" (I just made a new word, because I hate saying "Palestinians"), would be happy to kill all Jews everywhere, not just in Israel. They are continuators of final solution.
subject of your essay was addressed on I24 English.....one voice that this was inevitable given Israel's alleged move towards one state....and the opposition from a Canadian woman that this is counter productive and rewards hamas ideological goals....it recognized Oslo....just not a Jewish state.! so what good is anything from hamas? Honest reporting has a story on alleged comedian Jon Stewart trashing Israel. This isn't new....he started this 15 or more years ago to a cheering audience. during an early hamas war. Anyway,...UK and France have large Muslim populations and a post Christian population whose celebrities, writers, artists, actors...are seemingly entirely pro "Palestine" and viciously antisemitic no matter how they couch their Israelophobia. Jews among them ...like "bad Jew" Stewart always provide cover. If Harris were President she'd recognize Pal with Britain and france. New Zealand and other soon to announce the same. So for the moment , Israel has exactly one ally...the United States. And Israel citizens will be met at the docks and airports by mobs and thugs. I expect that China will buy Israeli weapons and use Israeli Jewish brilliance to its benefit while voting against Israel in any international forum. China doesn't worry about boycotts. Jon Stewart can plan his visits to China, Turkey and Iran with a clean conscience. I'm all over the place I know..... Joshua, good essay as always.
Macron, Starmer - who is next? These people are morally corrupt, subservient idiots. Your article is completely correct but these people are not capable of thought.
The Brits have lost their way. May Hashem grant them the wisdom and backbone of another Churchill. By the way, where is King Charles in all this? Royal crickets.
Maybe this makes something simple more complicated than it really is. Like most politicians the ones in England and France are just playing to their bigger constituencies. Sure, they are moral slugs, but no different than most. And attempting to reason with them is a waste of time.
The UK is becoming an Islamic country. Starmer knows this. He has no choice but to play to the crowd. Macron has the same problem.
France sold out on its own people when it started importing people from colonies to which it once spread civilisation!
It isnt one yet and wont become one without a fight. We don't need surrender monkeys in charge right now :/
They are in charge now
The same nations which refused to allow European Jewry to escape the Holocaust and which collaborated enthusiastically in the Holocaust now reward the perpetrators of 10/7
Colonial behavior dies hard, but so does Jew hatred.
An outstanding article. Sending you profound gratitude, from the UK.
Your commentary is 100 percent correct but not complete as in your historical narrative you skip over the main event which led to the mess we have today.
What if Kier Starmer had said “I recognize the role that Great Britain has played in denying the Palestinians a state when we took 77% of Palestine and unilaterally gave it to the Hashemite tribe from Saudii Arabia. Today I apologize to the Palestinian people, renounce the creation of TransJordan and call on the King Abdullah to abdicate his throne so the Palestinians can establish their state side by side with Israel.
Now that would have been Katie Byron turnaround technique.
The world doesn’t understand that that Jordan which is really eastern Israel was carved out of the British mandate and handed over to the Arabs-
Please stop calling them Palestinians as there never was an independent country called Palestine- there is no, “P” in the Arabic alphabet!
If Israel ceased to exist to-morrow and was replaced by an Arab,”Palestinian” state it would be only days before is was carved up between Egypt, Syria Lebanon and Jordan - let’s be real- the late King of Egypt told Yassir Arafat in no uncertain terms that there never was an Arab Palestinian state- in fact the only people prior to 1948 who called themselves Palestinians we the Jews!
Golda’s old passport said ‘Palestinian.’ She kept it.
But like it or not they exist today. It is just as dishonest to pretend they don’t as it is to pretend they have a long and glorious history.
They only exist in the minds of the ignorant west who have no understanding that they are being hoodwinked by propaganda.
Yes! Finally. I've been meaning to say something about this. Trans Jordan should have become Palestine. For real.
For all intents and purposes eastern Israel now called, “Jordan” is about as artificial as the so-called, “Palestinian” nation.
The unspoken constant here is that The Final Solution is still a foundational goal. England and France are being coy about it but their actions towards Israel and their Jewry for quite a while indicate it's been very much on since the UN declared Zionism = racism back in the '70s. We need to admit that the UK and France are not friends to Israel and Jewry in general, they are not neutral, they are enemies, they just would prefer that someone else fight their war for them. Someone brown who they can say is a noble savage, uncontrollably bloodthirsty but conveniently and justifiably so, because who could bear to have us Jews in their midst?
The Muslim population in Britain now is only 20%, although a large proportion of this is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. You would think a 20% population would not tip a country over, would not control a country, but a country afraid of a minority of its population and afraid to push back against this minority has been conquered.
Yesterday I heard a podcast that foretold a civil war between Muslims and Christians in the UK similar to the Troubles in Ireland. Frankly I wonder if the Christians will fight back, or if they will just roll over and accept Sharia law without a whimper. Frankly I wonder that about all of Europe.
“Only 20%”? If 20% of the population is comprised of feral hate filled animals that want to subjugate the remaining 80% and kill all the Jews in the process, that’s a BIG problem. In the great tradition of Neville Chamberlain, the Brits bow down to the aggressor, hoping placation will result in preservation. They won’t see the light until it’s too late and I don’t see any Churchill’s to come along and save them.
I wonder what Kier’s Jewish wife thinks of all this, but then she did marry him and might well be cheering him on to punish those of us among the Jews who are less enlightened than she.
Yes that is my point.
"In the UK, Muslims constitute approximately 6.5% of the total population. This translates to roughly 3.9 million individuals identifying as Muslim out of the overall UK population. This figure represents an increase from 4.9% in 2011, according to the Office for National Statistics. "
How will they fight? They no longer have free speech and they can’t own guns.
I actually meant the government, or an opposition party. But really yes, since there is no longer free speech, the only way to fight back is the way the Irish did, in the Troubles. That would only lead to death and destruction. Which will also happen when the churches all start to burn and conversion or death becomes the order of the day.
It is interesting to note the relationship between the way countries and empires treat Jews and their fate- The Babylonians, the Persians, the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, English, Germans and Muslim nations each mistreated the Jews and have either been relegated to history or have become mere shells of their former selves.
Fascinating how G-d protects his people and punishes those who mistreat them.
We are living in biblical times. If only people would wake up from their malaise.
When will the civilised West comes to understand that it doesn’t need to apologise for being better?
The woke need to go back to bed!
Never. The civilized west is made up of three types. Those who appreciate it (us), those who want it destroyed and useful idiots.
The West needs to become "uncivilised" and fight fire with fire.
Absolutely! You have to be willing to put aside niceties and put on your warrior hat and decimate the enemy. Then, when that enemy unconditionally surrenders you can go back to playing nice. "If you want to play in my sandbox, you have to follow my rules." Simple.
This man is the unpopular and despised Prime Minister. He is a complete and utter imbecile. It makes me ashamed of my country! I hope Israel will sanction him and show how utterly useless he is.
We now have 30 years of experience to understand that the premise of Oslo, that Israel and the Palestinians, represented by the PLO, would negotiate in good faith for a "two state" solution, was a catastrophic disaster and a lie from the start. We now know that 1. Palestinianism has one goal, the end of Israel and murder or exile of its people. Period. 2. That contrary to the premise of Oslo, the world does not see the process as a good faith negotiation but as a method of Israeli surrender of its sovereignty and security through the creation of an entity on its border 100 percent dedicated to its destruction. Israel needs to force its way out of this paradigm. It needs to tell the truth. That Oslo was premised on a lie. That Israel will not permit a terror state to be created on its border and will act to destroy it if necessary and that when the enemy is ready for peace and not murder Israel will be there.
Arafat immediately told Arab diplomats that he was using Mohammad's strategy and hadn't ceded on grain of sand of "Palestine."
I have an impression that "Palestinianists" (I just made a new word, because I hate saying "Palestinians"), would be happy to kill all Jews everywhere, not just in Israel. They are continuators of final solution.
I like the word!
subject of your essay was addressed on I24 English.....one voice that this was inevitable given Israel's alleged move towards one state....and the opposition from a Canadian woman that this is counter productive and rewards hamas ideological goals....it recognized Oslo....just not a Jewish state.! so what good is anything from hamas? Honest reporting has a story on alleged comedian Jon Stewart trashing Israel. This isn't new....he started this 15 or more years ago to a cheering audience. during an early hamas war. Anyway,...UK and France have large Muslim populations and a post Christian population whose celebrities, writers, artists, actors...are seemingly entirely pro "Palestine" and viciously antisemitic no matter how they couch their Israelophobia. Jews among them ...like "bad Jew" Stewart always provide cover. If Harris were President she'd recognize Pal with Britain and france. New Zealand and other soon to announce the same. So for the moment , Israel has exactly one ally...the United States. And Israel citizens will be met at the docks and airports by mobs and thugs. I expect that China will buy Israeli weapons and use Israeli Jewish brilliance to its benefit while voting against Israel in any international forum. China doesn't worry about boycotts. Jon Stewart can plan his visits to China, Turkey and Iran with a clean conscience. I'm all over the place I know..... Joshua, good essay as always.
Macron, Starmer - who is next? These people are morally corrupt, subservient idiots. Your article is completely correct but these people are not capable of thought.
The Brits have lost their way. May Hashem grant them the wisdom and backbone of another Churchill. By the way, where is King Charles in all this? Royal crickets.
His grandmother, Princess Alice of Battenberg, saved jews during the holocaust. She's been recognized at Yad Vashem as "Righteous Among the Nations."
Britain was finished over 200 years ago. They thought the had sent the worst of society to Australia- it now looks like that opposite happened.😢
you wouldn't say that if you lived in Australia today - just a matter of time...
Replacing Jews with Muslims will be the death of Great Britain. Obviously, the Labour Party is as stupid and shortsighted as the Democrat Party.
Sadly so.
I can’t wait until Labour starts to support Sharia law. It will happen.
The Liberal West and Liberal Judaism (the 1000 rabbi letter) are bankrupt now and harmful to Israel and the Jewish people. Thank you Josh, as always.
Maybe this makes something simple more complicated than it really is. Like most politicians the ones in England and France are just playing to their bigger constituencies. Sure, they are moral slugs, but no different than most. And attempting to reason with them is a waste of time.