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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

Independent Gaza has been a noble experiment, but one that has failed. You are quite correct - it can never be repeated if Israel is to survive.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Thank you.

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Miriamnae's avatar

Never. It’s ours.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I agree. It is obvious - and it is crucial that Jews begin viewing it that way. The reality has always been that it is part of Israel, as are Judea and Samaria.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Gaza from 1967 until 2005 when Israel made the mistake of witdrawing from Gaza, flourished under Israeli rule. When Israel withdrew, Hamas led thugs destroyed anything that the Israelis built including greenhouses that supported a substantial agricultural economy thus proving again that the Land of Israel only thrives under Jewish rule.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Correct.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

That was his mistake in judgment but the lack of readiness anticipation and dismissal of intelligence by IDF and Shin Bet belongs with the architects of the smaller smarter IDF the reliance on high tech the refusal to see the facts on the ground of a Hamas build up and to convey that to Bibi and the overall conceptzia strategy of mowing the grass in Gaza Heads should roll there as they did after Pearl Harbor and as Lincoln and Churchill fired incompetent generals

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Nuance&context's avatar

Don't take Alec seriously.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I don't think you know what "on record" means.

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Nuance&context's avatar

Alec- youre a jew hating conspiracy theory nut and your point is completely irrelevant here especially since you don't know what you're talking about and don't have the mental capacity to have read the articles. You are literally a wandering troll looking for places to drop idiotic phrases you've committed to memory, the meaning of which you don't comprehend because you are simply not smart enough. Go drink a beer instead. If you can figure out how to do that.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

There is always one, or more, isn't there? Never trust a guy named "Alec." Unless his last name was "Guinness." The lone exception!

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

Wonderful explanation. Thank you for educating with facts. The useful idiots believe the Jews swept into Israel in 1948 and “stole” the land. In addition to our history, the Jews purchased or rented from Jews and Arabs already there. Nothing was stolen.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Thank you, you are very kind to say that. I agree - and that's exactly why I wrote the article!

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GoodBooks's avatar

2005 Jews were forcibly removed AND had to continue paying mortgages for houses they could no longer live in or face their credit being ruined.

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

WTF?! I didn’t know this. Crazy.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I didn't know that either. They had to keep paying the mortgages? What?

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

When we were in Israel for our kids’ B’nai Mitzvah in 2010 I asked our tour guide if the Palestinians moved into the Jew’s homes in Gaza. He said they came in with hammers and destroyed everything. The Palestinians didn’t want the land. They just didn’t want the Jews to have it.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Interesting story. When I was in Israel the first time, for my B'nai Mitzvah it was 1985. My dad (OBM) spent quite a bit of time arguing with the Israeli tour guide about Israel's biggest mistake being not annexing the Temple Mount/Judea and Samaria/the Golan immediately after retaking all three 1967. He also told our guide that it was impossible for the current situation to last. My father was incredibly perceptive, and he couldn't have been more correct. I didn't understand a lot of what he meant at the time. I was in college a few years later - during the first intifada. At that point it all became CRYSTAL CLEAR.

We also drove into Gaza on that trip. I've always been grateful that I got to go somewhere, within Israel, that became impossible to go into a few years later. Obviously, Jews should be able to travel anywhere, without even the slightest worry of danger, in our own country.

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Anthony van Dyk's avatar

Very shortly after October 7 I wrote angrily 'this changes everything!' It's heartening encouragement to read this, as well as the improved overall sentiment afforded Judea and Samaria in the Israeli community. Nothing can change back to this recent past of false hope, both in Israel and abroad.

May the held endeavor of this Future Redemption be met with Gods Harmony and Blessings of Hashem 's Love.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Amen. I said the same thing on October 7. I think that you are correct and many more people understand the importance of Judea and Samaria. I think the same is true of people starting to understand that Israel can never leave Gaza again. That is partly why I wrote the article. Too many people seem to think that it is somehow separate from Eretz Yisrael. It isn't. That has to be our mentality for every square inch that is our land. Education is key for people to get that.

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Pamela Schieber's avatar

Excellent history, but you forgot mentioning the Jews being kicked out of Yamit.It was located as part of the Philadelphi corrider south of Rafiah. I noticed people always forget to mention the 1993 Islamist bombing in the garage of the World Trade Center.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I am not sure why I would have mentioned the first World Trade Center bombing in an article about the history of Gaza. Did I misunderstand what you are saying?

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I did mention that there were 22 towns that were part of Gush Katif. Yamit was not in Gaza, but in the Sinai. But, I agree with you, and thank you for mentioning that, I should have included it. I may write an article about the Sinai, and why Israel should have never given it up, at some point. Now thanks to pointing Yamit out to me, I will include it!

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Hannahminnea's avatar

Is that a different bombing? I just remember the actual bombing thanks to the muzzie lunatics. My mom lives right across the river and she saw EVERYTHING.

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Pamela Schieber's avatar

In 1993 the Blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman was responsible for planning the bombing of the World Trade Center garage. Clinton decided to take it to the court. 3 people died and 1000 were injured. I remember that clearly because I told everyone that “ now they got in they will never stop.” If I knew that our State Dept didn't?

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Joshua Namm's avatar

There is always an "Alec" who spew nearly identical lies. Lies that are so obviously false that no one takes the Alecs seriously. If it wasn't such a serious subject, I would say that Alec's little comments so stupid and lame that Alec is very nearly comical. You would be better off quoting Jane Curtin. People would take you more seriously (which is to say, even at that point, barely seriously).

"Only idiots believe every quote they see online." - Thomas Jefferson

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Leon Kushner's avatar

Never again is now! Even now with a Right wing government (mostly) in charge, they are considering giving Gaza away. Even if it's to the US, it's wrong. That holy land belongs to the Jews in Israel. I want to see many more active shuls, yeshivas, hotels, schools, housing including fantastic hotels on the beach there is Gaza. Along with as many military outposts as required to watch over the Israelis there.

THe Left has dictated their policies to the world for so long that even Rightwinged Jews have swallowed some of it. Like: We want nothing more to do with Gaza.

After the lesson of Oct 7, we surely must know that Gaza belongs to us and we must proudly own it and look after it and the people who live there. We kicked out 10 thousand Israelis who had the audacity to live there despite the lack of security that the government of Israel failed to provide them.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I totally agree Leon. You may want to read another article I wrote a while ago...

https://joshuanamm.substack.com/p/the-continuing-emptiness-of-never

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Leon Kushner's avatar

Thx Josh. That was also a great article. I feel the exact same way. Pls checkout my blog: https://leonupsidedown.blogspot.com

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NA's avatar

Israel can’t allow risk of Oct. 7 to happen again. If US has real monetary interest in Gaza Israel has a chance of being safe. At least on that boarder. Don’t forget constant threats on all other sides!

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Any good edition of Birkas HaMazon the grace after Meals and Zmiros ( songs of praise sung at the Shabbos table ) will tell you that Kah Ribon was composed by R Yisrael Najara of Gaza

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Hannahminnea's avatar

It’s my favorite song at the Shabbos table. Even if it’s in the wrong place in my bentcher I don’t care.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

It is one of ours as well

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Miriamnae's avatar

“…I can read it because my ancestors wrote it…” love it.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Thank you. I said that om Facebook when I posted an article when it first happened. It was one of the first things I thought of when I began to write this article. Thank you for noticing _ I am proud of that line. I think it makes the point in a way that truly resonates.

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Candice's avatar

The monsters of Gaza will starve their children before they capitulate to Israel. Offer safe passage for the women and children. Declare any male left in Gaza an enemy combatant. Help them to martyrdom, should they refuse to surrender unconditionally. #Reclaim Gaza

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Joshua Namm's avatar

I totally agree. 10/7 were their true colors.

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Anthony van Dyk's avatar

This is a fitting die hard approach.

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NA's avatar

It was never quiet from Gaza since Hamas took over. There were constant bombings!!! Attempts at breaking through fence. People kinda got used to it, automatically ran to shelters, did same on Oct. 7…But never quiet.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

They only "took over" because the Gazans elected them. never forget that. To this day the vast majority of Gazans support Hamas (and those who do not still hate Jews), as do almost all of the Arabs in Judea and Samaria. The few who do not overtly support Hamas still overwhelmingly express support for 10/7. That is why we can never go back to the (irresponsible) attitude of 10/6.

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NA's avatar

Absolutely! “Peaceful” Gazans captured Bibas family and other hostages. Now they are protesting against Hamas but Israel should proceed with caution. They all hate Jews and Israel.

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Nancy F's avatar

thank you.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

You're very welcome. Thank you for reading my article. If you have a chance, please take a look at the others.

https://joshuanamm.substack.com/

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Nancy F's avatar

That restack of your piece garnered more attention from antisemites than i have ever seen. You really touched a nerve!

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Susan Sullivan's avatar

I agree with you! This was a serious mistake!

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Alfred Harder's avatar

It always was, is now, and always will be!

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Always! 100%!

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Stephen Schecter's avatar

I have advocated for exactly that for years. Time to put it into practice.

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Joshua Namm's avatar

Great minds Stephen :-). I agree. This is the time. It's a Temple Mount/Judea and Samaria 1967 moment, and we CANNOT make the same mistakes. We have to stop having a "ghetto mentality," which means stop caring what the world thinks, and start to make decisions solely based on what is good for us.

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