Feb 18·edited Feb 18Liked by Max Klinger, Joshua Hoffman
It is beyond belief that no one takes the charters of Hamas, Hezbollah, etc., seriously, as they have the same comment about eliminating all those who don't follow their Allah. They extremists are supposed to be in the minority and where are the rebukes against them from the majority? Jews, of course, the first, but those who really care, Christians, Buddhists, etc., have to rise up against this "be nice to Islamists", and stand up for all of us. Where are the churches! They call for "peace", but how were we able to make peace with Nazis? Now is the time to stand for the once country whose very existance counts on removing terrorist, Am Yisrael Chai. The Jewish People lives, and everyone should be doing their best to ensure that remains. After all, the rest of the world is next!
Hard to sum up my views in a comment but I have written a number of pieces looking at these issues on my substack, and will be putting out more in the future - take a read if you're interested
Yes I have been listening to Douglas Murray who is a British journalist and a real friend to Israel. He has been talking about islamic extremism for years now and says he does not recognize Britain anymore. He talks about the cowardice of the West by their refusal to do anything about these jihadist psychopaths. Here is one excellent short interview he did with Piers Morgan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iMwM78ivc4&t=652s
Can the British Jewish community arm itself? What are they doing about the fact their MP isn’t running because he fears for his life? It seems from this side of the Atlantic that British police are encouraging this violence by their inaction.
It would appear from your inclusion of Orbán that you do indeed regard Islamic extremism as a "politeness issue". I have various reasons to dislike Orbán that aren't relevant to this discussion, but the main reasons he is disliked in "polite" circles is 1. his refusal in 2015 to open Hungary's borders to a mass influx of Muslims, and 2. his direct criticism of George Soros during elections a few years ago. If you would condemn him for his disobedience to Brussels in 2015, then you simply don't think that mass migration of Muslims is a problem. Soros is a major sponsor of mass migration, as well as a major sponsor of anti-Israel groups in the West. "Polite" people pretended that any criticism of Soros was automatically to be considered "antisemitic". Again, if Soros had his way, Hungary would have the same Muslim problem that much of the rest of Europe/UK faces.
It may go down well in polite circles, but you can't have it both ways - you can't both regard the Muslim presence as problematic while condemning anyone who has taken the necessary steps to avoid the problem.
Sorry, but Islam is a cult and shouldn’t be legal in ANY Western country!!! How it can be claimed under “freedom of religion” and covered by tax shelters and charity is INSANE. People should be screening from the rooftops about this. Ask yourself why they are not. I’ll give you an answer… NEW. WORLD. ORDER.
I am NOT insane. Please check out the following link:
I am so pleased that you wrote this powerful piece. I have to say huge numbers of British society are terrified by this state of affairs and that includes not only Jewish people. I agree, when confronted by this evil, the meaningless platitudes that come out are beyond belief! The situation is frankly terrifying. Keir Starmer constantly tells us he is dealing with anti semitism, it never goes away. The British Labour Party has it imbued in itself. Aside from that, the stupid insipid statements used to explain it away, are shameful and utter cowardice
That BBC quote is so pathetic. I’m certain that they think using the word “terrorist” makes them sound racist, and that explains all the hedging. It is so disingenuous though, and I am so tired of the phoniness and the cowardice.
They unmask themselves though, b/c the fact that they write about “Islamophobia” and irrelevant right-wing extremists when Jews get murdered by Muslims proves who they really fear (hint: not white supremacists.) They don’t actually believe “Hamas are not terrorists”; they are saying “please don’t let the terrorists stab me too!”
All true, but it's not just the Libs & Left who are in denial. We've had 14 years of right-wing government & their media allies who often boast how unwoke/un-PC they are, yet are no better or more willing to address Islamism & its causes than their opponents. They either add it to their existing issues with "coloured immigration" & "threats to traditional (white conservative Christian) values," thereby ignoring it's specific nature & threat, or ignore it altogether. Why?
Meanwhile, the longstanding Islamist/Fascist overlap, going back to the 1920s & continuing to this day, is ignored as much as it is on the Left.
My only guess on the Government's part is avoiding arguments (& losing trade deals) with Saudi Arabia.
But that doesn't explain the conservative media's attitude of alternating between slagging off Muslims (or immigrants in general) & saying nothing about Islamism in particular. They seem to see it as either a "race" issue or a non-issue.
The first I heard of the 7th October massacre was that day, R4 News at One. My mind went back 40 years, to the atrocities of the Central American death squads. And in my naivety, (I am way past old enough to know better) I hoped that the sheer scale of the horror and sadistic brutality would get through to at least some on the Left. (Not the Islamonazis of course, they're too far gone). Well, more fool me, eh?
But you're right. At least we all know where we are now with these people. There can be no coming back from this.
I am so glad that you wrote this extremely powerful piece. The situation in Britain is intolerable for the Country at the moment. The Jewish people feel in danger and most other Britains are appalled and frightened. The supine excuses that various high profile people have given regarding events are unforgivable. Kier Starmer claims to have cancelled Anti Semitism in his party. This is a lie, the Labour Party is imbued with it. The cowardice amongst some politicians, who refuse to stand up to this is shameful . I do not recognise my Country any more!
Your article addresses an insideous form of "colonization" that has now spread and infected rational thinking in western nations. Changing demographics will only exacerbate the situation.
Exactly right. The problem with an overly agreeable society is that the most disagreeable people take over because everyone is too nice to oppose them.
I don’t know the details about Britain and certainly everything you write about sounds very bad. But I do see similar claims in the U.S. and I know they are nonsense here (not that either antisemitism or fringe pro hamas assholes don’t exist at all) where every major political figure on the left (Bernie, AOC etc.) have strongly condemned Hamas and all attacks against Jews and where Muslims have been injured in far greater numbers than Jews on the basis of their ethnicity/religion.
It is beyond belief that no one takes the charters of Hamas, Hezbollah, etc., seriously, as they have the same comment about eliminating all those who don't follow their Allah. They extremists are supposed to be in the minority and where are the rebukes against them from the majority? Jews, of course, the first, but those who really care, Christians, Buddhists, etc., have to rise up against this "be nice to Islamists", and stand up for all of us. Where are the churches! They call for "peace", but how were we able to make peace with Nazis? Now is the time to stand for the once country whose very existance counts on removing terrorist, Am Yisrael Chai. The Jewish People lives, and everyone should be doing their best to ensure that remains. After all, the rest of the world is next!
Hard to sum up my views in a comment but I have written a number of pieces looking at these issues on my substack, and will be putting out more in the future - take a read if you're interested
Yes I have been listening to Douglas Murray who is a British journalist and a real friend to Israel. He has been talking about islamic extremism for years now and says he does not recognize Britain anymore. He talks about the cowardice of the West by their refusal to do anything about these jihadist psychopaths. Here is one excellent short interview he did with Piers Morgan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iMwM78ivc4&t=652s
You might like this, from my substack: It's on the same theme. https://open.substack.com/pub/maxklinger/p/genocidal-islamism-and-its-liberal?r=i107t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Can the British Jewish community arm itself? What are they doing about the fact their MP isn’t running because he fears for his life? It seems from this side of the Atlantic that British police are encouraging this violence by their inaction.
The right is in love with Putin and Orban. The left is in love with Hamas. And you tell me this is a sane world?
I wonder the same thing. Scary world!
The swaying of MSM
Googles algorithm
Corrupt politicians
Headlines (most are to lazy to read an entire article where sometimes the truth is hidden)
All pull the strings which needs to be severed one by one
It would appear from your inclusion of Orbán that you do indeed regard Islamic extremism as a "politeness issue". I have various reasons to dislike Orbán that aren't relevant to this discussion, but the main reasons he is disliked in "polite" circles is 1. his refusal in 2015 to open Hungary's borders to a mass influx of Muslims, and 2. his direct criticism of George Soros during elections a few years ago. If you would condemn him for his disobedience to Brussels in 2015, then you simply don't think that mass migration of Muslims is a problem. Soros is a major sponsor of mass migration, as well as a major sponsor of anti-Israel groups in the West. "Polite" people pretended that any criticism of Soros was automatically to be considered "antisemitic". Again, if Soros had his way, Hungary would have the same Muslim problem that much of the rest of Europe/UK faces.
It may go down well in polite circles, but you can't have it both ways - you can't both regard the Muslim presence as problematic while condemning anyone who has taken the necessary steps to avoid the problem.
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Sorry, but Islam is a cult and shouldn’t be legal in ANY Western country!!! How it can be claimed under “freedom of religion” and covered by tax shelters and charity is INSANE. People should be screening from the rooftops about this. Ask yourself why they are not. I’ll give you an answer… NEW. WORLD. ORDER.
I am NOT insane. Please check out the following link:
https://youtu.be/CJ3bH759U5g?si=q3Zr7ECesTeSm0jh
P.S. I don’t believe the religious stuff.
This is how Islam spread all over the world. Thru pure intimidation.
Islamism is Islam with more letters.
I am so pleased that you wrote this powerful piece. I have to say huge numbers of British society are terrified by this state of affairs and that includes not only Jewish people. I agree, when confronted by this evil, the meaningless platitudes that come out are beyond belief! The situation is frankly terrifying. Keir Starmer constantly tells us he is dealing with anti semitism, it never goes away. The British Labour Party has it imbued in itself. Aside from that, the stupid insipid statements used to explain it away, are shameful and utter cowardice
That BBC quote is so pathetic. I’m certain that they think using the word “terrorist” makes them sound racist, and that explains all the hedging. It is so disingenuous though, and I am so tired of the phoniness and the cowardice.
They unmask themselves though, b/c the fact that they write about “Islamophobia” and irrelevant right-wing extremists when Jews get murdered by Muslims proves who they really fear (hint: not white supremacists.) They don’t actually believe “Hamas are not terrorists”; they are saying “please don’t let the terrorists stab me too!”
All true, but it's not just the Libs & Left who are in denial. We've had 14 years of right-wing government & their media allies who often boast how unwoke/un-PC they are, yet are no better or more willing to address Islamism & its causes than their opponents. They either add it to their existing issues with "coloured immigration" & "threats to traditional (white conservative Christian) values," thereby ignoring it's specific nature & threat, or ignore it altogether. Why?
Meanwhile, the longstanding Islamist/Fascist overlap, going back to the 1920s & continuing to this day, is ignored as much as it is on the Left.
My only guess on the Government's part is avoiding arguments (& losing trade deals) with Saudi Arabia.
But that doesn't explain the conservative media's attitude of alternating between slagging off Muslims (or immigrants in general) & saying nothing about Islamism in particular. They seem to see it as either a "race" issue or a non-issue.
I will be writing an article on this topic on my personal substack soon. You might like this piece in the meantime: https://open.substack.com/pub/maxklinger/p/genocidal-islamism-and-its-liberal?r=i107t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Yes, well put.
The first I heard of the 7th October massacre was that day, R4 News at One. My mind went back 40 years, to the atrocities of the Central American death squads. And in my naivety, (I am way past old enough to know better) I hoped that the sheer scale of the horror and sadistic brutality would get through to at least some on the Left. (Not the Islamonazis of course, they're too far gone). Well, more fool me, eh?
But you're right. At least we all know where we are now with these people. There can be no coming back from this.
No excuses, and no forgiveness.
The problem with Britain is the lack of political opposition, the three main parties all agree on just about everything.
They agree that experimental vaccines are safe.
They agree with lockdowns.
They agree with censorship.
They agree with net zero.
They agree with the NHS needs more money.
They agree with hate speech laws.
They agree with the globalist policies.
They disagree on ???
I am so glad that you wrote this extremely powerful piece. The situation in Britain is intolerable for the Country at the moment. The Jewish people feel in danger and most other Britains are appalled and frightened. The supine excuses that various high profile people have given regarding events are unforgivable. Kier Starmer claims to have cancelled Anti Semitism in his party. This is a lie, the Labour Party is imbued with it. The cowardice amongst some politicians, who refuse to stand up to this is shameful . I do not recognise my Country any more!
Thank you - I write a lot on this topic on my personal substack . You might like this article for example: https://open.substack.com/pub/maxklinger/p/genocidal-islamism-and-its-liberal?r=i107t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Your article addresses an insideous form of "colonization" that has now spread and infected rational thinking in western nations. Changing demographics will only exacerbate the situation.
Exactly right. The problem with an overly agreeable society is that the most disagreeable people take over because everyone is too nice to oppose them.
I don’t know the details about Britain and certainly everything you write about sounds very bad. But I do see similar claims in the U.S. and I know they are nonsense here (not that either antisemitism or fringe pro hamas assholes don’t exist at all) where every major political figure on the left (Bernie, AOC etc.) have strongly condemned Hamas and all attacks against Jews and where Muslims have been injured in far greater numbers than Jews on the basis of their ethnicity/religion.
You can be and many liberals are both against antisemitism and Islamophobia.
How can you honour Allah by destroying His Creation? It's like trying to befriend your neighbour by blowing up his home! Eh?