The two countries don’t have a ceasefire. Whereas a ceasefire has an enforcement mechanism, Israel and Iran just stopped shooting at each other for tactical reasons. At best this is a truce.
It is a shame that Islam would rather endlessly attempt to take out Israel. If these insane clerics would permanently disappear then maybe these countries could actually take care of their citizens and make life better for them but these unaccountable so-called "holy men" don't want that. As I've said before here, the Koran is a warrior code similar to Japanese Bushido of WWII.
There is no comparison between Islam and Bushido. Islam holds itself to be the true religion and therefore all adherents of other religions are infidels (kafir) and not worthy of even living. Bushido is an honour system of warriors.
The insistence that both systems demand adherents fight against non-believers and treat them with contempt is my comparison. In effect both systems brutalize their enemies as a matter of course. One killed for the Emperor and the other does it for Allah.
I agree! Israel is still at war. As the head of the IDF said yesterday. This is just a ceasefire, not the end of the war. Keep going my friends! You will win.
I was thinking of this very subject today as I listened to the latest pronouncement from the big shot ayatollah. Seems to me that he should have a little more humility. Does he not realize that Israel could have taken him out at the same time that they took out the 30 generals and the dozen scientists? Israel chose not to take him out for some reason. When this war heats up again, he should get a rude reminder.
“Unless there is a treaty, Israel can and should launch a new surprise attack on Iran at its earliest convenience.”
I sincerely hope Israel does not act on that particular piece of advice. Go back and read your list of Israel’s accomplishments - together with that of the American military.
The Iranian people that truly matter either know the truth already, or will in short order.
Those people already support you, and both took and uploaded videos of Israeli attacks to the broader world.
Making their lives more of a Hell than it already is will not serve Israel’s interests in any meaningful way, and would more likely harm them.
Beyond that, I believe it would unnecessarily provide fuel to the fires of rapidly growing anti-Israelism, anti-Zionism, and plain old-fashioned antisemitism on both the Left and Right fronts of American politics.
Trust HaShem to protect you further at this point.
I believe, on the basis of Biblical prophecies and the increasingly toxic and explosively-rich state of American society, that the day will come when America when either no longer be able to support Israel, or will withhold that support. Our Ship of State is sinking, and it is in Israel’s - and America’s - interests to delay that final plunge beneath the waves as long as possible. Toward that end, I would exhort Israel to avoid any further unprovoked attacks on Iran, unless it became clear that Israel itself was under imminent threat - and it could be well established.
I wish everyone would leave God out of their arguments. Since the beginning of time every tribe at war with a neighboring tribe has 'had God on our side'. Even the Nazis 'had God on our side'.
Well Henry, you have a point, but here’s a counter-point:
There are counterfeits of everything, but you can only have a counterfeit of something that is real, or true.
I suggest that one would be foolish to choose never to believe or trust in anyone, or anything, because there have been countless liars, forgeries, and deceivers throughout history.
My point is that G-d is not only ‘real’, but Sovereign over His Creation and, as such, is highly relevant to ‘these issues’, amongst all others of consequence.
Now, I grant you that this is precisely where things get ‘complicated’, as there are indeed countless examples of people doing all kinds of foolish, even evil, things in the name of G-d.
I despise and deplore that as much as you do; perhaps even more. Such people or groups are often the cause of others rejecting all things G-d related.
But the foolish, false, or evil actions of others, done in G-d’s name, have no bearing on the truth regarding His existence, being, or relevance.
Even if one were to agree with what I am saying, the next issue would be discovering what is objectively true about Him, and how that Truth bears on one’s life issues. And that can indeed become very challenging.
My beliefs are grounded in my understanding of what I regard as the Bible; the Tanakh (Old Testament) and Brit Hadasha (New Testament). Whether held separately or together, these Scriptures can be ‘rightly’ or ‘wrongly’ understood, and correctly, or incorrectly, applied.
That statement infuriates many people, but it is a simple truth that we human beings apply in every other area of reality, assuming we are sane.
Hashem gave Jews the brains to figure things out, as His helpers. Denying this and only relying on God is an affront to the gift of intelligence. Israel must do what is in its best interests. The world's approval and love is illusory and unnecessary. When did the world ever protect Jews? Golda said it best, "I'd rather be alive with a bad reputation than dead and mourned."
Uri, a good rundown of the present situation. Iran is not to be trusted. They will regroup as best as they can. It is too bad (and a dangerous situation) that Israel only knocked out half of Iran's missile launchers. I am sure the IDF would have completed the job, but you give away sovereignty when you bring in a ally (USA). Your idea of making the Iranians suffer a bit is solid. If they felt the heat of war a little there might have been a meaningful attempt to oust the Ayatollah and his henchmen. At some point, Israel will have to finish the job, but I hope Iran makes the first move so the world can see that the Muslims are the instigators and aggressors.
According to Zero Hedge, the IDF has confirmed to Bibi Netanyahu that lethal force was directed on multiple occasions at Gaza refugees lining up for food aid. In other recent headlines Jewish settlers attacked the last remaining Christian village on the West Bank, setting fire to homes and churches in the community, which has been peacefully Christian for almost two millennia. My point? Israel is at war with Christianity more so than Islam. The numbers bear this out. Who gives a fig about Iran, which has been “months away” from developing a nuclear weapon for over thirty years. 🙄
Nazism did not disappear because of a ceasefire. It disappeared due to complete annihilation, unconditional surrender and the execution of its leaders. That’s what needs to be done in Iran.
Of course they are and the blinkered progressive west cannot see it as their woke issues are much more important to them as they tick all the boxes and they can sleep well at night having openly welcomed islamic terrorists to come stay in their countries . Look what's happening in Europe . Terrorism almost daily and still the lefty looneys refuse to wake from their dream state where everyone loves each other and islamic people love Christians as brothers .
I don't like boasting. Remember 7 October 2023 and stay humble. Pride comes before a fall. I'd like to know who these contributors are and their qualifications for writing. I knew one contributor, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle. - Jake Wallis Simmons.
It is a shame that Islam would rather endlessly attempt to take out Israel. If these insane clerics would permanently disappear then maybe these countries could actually take care of their citizens and make life better for them but these unaccountable so-called "holy men" don't want that. As I've said before here, the Koran is a warrior code similar to Japanese Bushido of WWII.
There is no comparison between Islam and Bushido. Islam holds itself to be the true religion and therefore all adherents of other religions are infidels (kafir) and not worthy of even living. Bushido is an honour system of warriors.
The insistence that both systems demand adherents fight against non-believers and treat them with contempt is my comparison. In effect both systems brutalize their enemies as a matter of course. One killed for the Emperor and the other does it for Allah.
Islam doesn't do ceasefire
That's why they need obliteration.
Their culture needs modernising.
I take it you mean moving from or rejecting the 7th century for the present.
Stop thinking they can replace the Western world with an Islamic shithole
I agree! Israel is still at war. As the head of the IDF said yesterday. This is just a ceasefire, not the end of the war. Keep going my friends! You will win.
Keep on going until Iran has been totally neutralised and their tentacles cut off forever
Agree with every word! Israel MUST stop listening to outside voices and do what they must to survive.
Unfortunately, Israel is the 51 US state, with all the disadvantages and some advantages - like the US veto at the UN security council.
I was thinking of this very subject today as I listened to the latest pronouncement from the big shot ayatollah. Seems to me that he should have a little more humility. Does he not realize that Israel could have taken him out at the same time that they took out the 30 generals and the dozen scientists? Israel chose not to take him out for some reason. When this war heats up again, he should get a rude reminder.
“Unless there is a treaty, Israel can and should launch a new surprise attack on Iran at its earliest convenience.”
I sincerely hope Israel does not act on that particular piece of advice. Go back and read your list of Israel’s accomplishments - together with that of the American military.
The Iranian people that truly matter either know the truth already, or will in short order.
Those people already support you, and both took and uploaded videos of Israeli attacks to the broader world.
Making their lives more of a Hell than it already is will not serve Israel’s interests in any meaningful way, and would more likely harm them.
Beyond that, I believe it would unnecessarily provide fuel to the fires of rapidly growing anti-Israelism, anti-Zionism, and plain old-fashioned antisemitism on both the Left and Right fronts of American politics.
Trust HaShem to protect you further at this point.
I believe, on the basis of Biblical prophecies and the increasingly toxic and explosively-rich state of American society, that the day will come when America when either no longer be able to support Israel, or will withhold that support. Our Ship of State is sinking, and it is in Israel’s - and America’s - interests to delay that final plunge beneath the waves as long as possible. Toward that end, I would exhort Israel to avoid any further unprovoked attacks on Iran, unless it became clear that Israel itself was under imminent threat - and it could be well established.
With sincere love, Mike
Am Israel Chai!
I wish everyone would leave God out of their arguments. Since the beginning of time every tribe at war with a neighboring tribe has 'had God on our side'. Even the Nazis 'had God on our side'.
Well Henry, you have a point, but here’s a counter-point:
There are counterfeits of everything, but you can only have a counterfeit of something that is real, or true.
I suggest that one would be foolish to choose never to believe or trust in anyone, or anything, because there have been countless liars, forgeries, and deceivers throughout history.
To each his, or her, own though.
All the best, Mike
I don't usually reply to replies that I get. But what is your point?
Thanks Henry…
My point is that G-d is not only ‘real’, but Sovereign over His Creation and, as such, is highly relevant to ‘these issues’, amongst all others of consequence.
Now, I grant you that this is precisely where things get ‘complicated’, as there are indeed countless examples of people doing all kinds of foolish, even evil, things in the name of G-d.
I despise and deplore that as much as you do; perhaps even more. Such people or groups are often the cause of others rejecting all things G-d related.
But the foolish, false, or evil actions of others, done in G-d’s name, have no bearing on the truth regarding His existence, being, or relevance.
Even if one were to agree with what I am saying, the next issue would be discovering what is objectively true about Him, and how that Truth bears on one’s life issues. And that can indeed become very challenging.
My beliefs are grounded in my understanding of what I regard as the Bible; the Tanakh (Old Testament) and Brit Hadasha (New Testament). Whether held separately or together, these Scriptures can be ‘rightly’ or ‘wrongly’ understood, and correctly, or incorrectly, applied.
That statement infuriates many people, but it is a simple truth that we human beings apply in every other area of reality, assuming we are sane.
I wish you well, Mike
Hashem gave Jews the brains to figure things out, as His helpers. Denying this and only relying on God is an affront to the gift of intelligence. Israel must do what is in its best interests. The world's approval and love is illusory and unnecessary. When did the world ever protect Jews? Golda said it best, "I'd rather be alive with a bad reputation than dead and mourned."
I agree with everything you state there.
G-d bless, Mike
This is a pause enforced by Trump. It would probably not be a good idea for Israel to be the one to break that just now.
Israel's shema should be Here O Israel the Lord our God the God of the universe is one
Makes sense
Uri, a good rundown of the present situation. Iran is not to be trusted. They will regroup as best as they can. It is too bad (and a dangerous situation) that Israel only knocked out half of Iran's missile launchers. I am sure the IDF would have completed the job, but you give away sovereignty when you bring in a ally (USA). Your idea of making the Iranians suffer a bit is solid. If they felt the heat of war a little there might have been a meaningful attempt to oust the Ayatollah and his henchmen. At some point, Israel will have to finish the job, but I hope Iran makes the first move so the world can see that the Muslims are the instigators and aggressors.
Questions for the so-called Ceasefire?
1. What did President Trump get?
Practically nothing...
2. What did Israel get for the so-called Ceasefire?
Practically nothing...
3. What did K-O Meanie get for the Ceasefire?
Practically speaking, Time, Prestige, his Life and dismissal of the Unconditional Surrender!
The pager operation was pure brilliance. Probably the most genius military move of all time!
According to Zero Hedge, the IDF has confirmed to Bibi Netanyahu that lethal force was directed on multiple occasions at Gaza refugees lining up for food aid. In other recent headlines Jewish settlers attacked the last remaining Christian village on the West Bank, setting fire to homes and churches in the community, which has been peacefully Christian for almost two millennia. My point? Israel is at war with Christianity more so than Islam. The numbers bear this out. Who gives a fig about Iran, which has been “months away” from developing a nuclear weapon for over thirty years. 🙄
Nazism did not disappear because of a ceasefire. It disappeared due to complete annihilation, unconditional surrender and the execution of its leaders. That’s what needs to be done in Iran.
Of course they are and the blinkered progressive west cannot see it as their woke issues are much more important to them as they tick all the boxes and they can sleep well at night having openly welcomed islamic terrorists to come stay in their countries . Look what's happening in Europe . Terrorism almost daily and still the lefty looneys refuse to wake from their dream state where everyone loves each other and islamic people love Christians as brothers .
Wake the fuck up europe
I don't like boasting. Remember 7 October 2023 and stay humble. Pride comes before a fall. I'd like to know who these contributors are and their qualifications for writing. I knew one contributor, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle. - Jake Wallis Simmons.