I mostly agree except for the part at the end that says we progressives must create a system for Palestinian dignity and freedom. No. THEY have to do that. They have to want it. Did we not learn this from Iraq and Afghanistan? “How many westerners does it take to change a fundamentalist Muslim? They have to want to change.”
You are absolutely right. The only thing the world needs to do is…RUN. I’ve read and listened to many former Muslims speak of how violent their lives were on a good day. Death is all around them, constantly. The Western mind cannot fathom how they live.
I"m adding to my original comment. So . . while the Palestinians are figuring out how to improve their lives after "defeat", if they need a role model -- they can look to the Jews
And let me add that the Jews have been the most consistently persecuted group in history and yet each time we pick ourselves up, figure out what to do next, and move forward, creating a new productive lifestyle. Do we kvetch? Yes, but we kvetch about everything. We have the least “victim” mentality of all. Our families remain intact, our social systems, our focus on education, our love of life and contributing to humanity in general
Liberalism is not about fairness or equal rights toward any group for the betterment of the larger population. If a particular cause can't create adequate negatively charged emotion, it's not worth fighting for.
As soon as their movement's goal of division has created sufficient upheaval and chaos, they will pick up their next cause in favor of another small group against the betterment of the general population. And again, their mission is division and chaos. Bringing two groups together is never their goal.
Is it noble to fight for the rights of a gay man to compete against women in college sports? The outrage this movement caused took away rights of biological women who are the general population in favor of a smaller group. It created chaos and ill feeling in the general population because that is the liberal agenda.
Nothing about liberals disrupting college campuses from their campsites, screaming for Palestine and against Israel surprises me. It's what they do. It's not meant to make any sense. It divides.
The last paragraph says it all. Until they add to the "charters" that Israel is a State, and recognize as one, and until they read the history of how Arabs sold land to Jews for more money than the land was worth, and until they remove the word "refugee" from their names, there will never be peace. UNRWA has told them lies, the UN has told the lies, and when the truth is that is may take several generations to begin to understand what is truth and what are lies. When they can start to build communities, factories, etc., and join international trade and commerce, they will not succeed.
You seem to not understand what the progressives and leftists are all about: against freedom of speech, against individualism, against excellence, against merit, against truth, against reality.
Instead they are pro fantasy, pro ideology, pro simplistics world views, pro language policing and if you understood that, then of course it all makes perfect sense why they are pro Hamas which actually means what you are, when you say you are Pro-"Palestine".
Palestinians created this fake identity of a people and of a nation that never existed only to kill the Jews and to destroy Israel.
As the Left and Progressives live in a world of delusions and lies where truth and facts do not matter, as you can be everyone and everything you claim to be, it fits neatly into the fake palestinian narrative, plus the BS ideology of Oppressor and Oppressed narrative where you are automatically on the right side if you are the so called oppressed and that is not even true as the Israelis don't oppress the so called palestinians.
So again we are in the realm of lies and deception, same with the Trans Movement, the BLM Movement, the BDS Movement etc. etc. It's obnoxious. The Left and Progressives are a destructive force to every society and they need to be stopped in their tracks as they are the worst thing that can happen to society. You always get people at the end that are immoral, don't know who they are, which is destructive to society, where they are looking for false ideologies as everyone needs something to believe in and if it's not anymore a religion or your close family and friends it becomes critical race theory or whatever, they are destroying culture, morality and decency. It's horrible.
All the leftist ideas in the world became after a while extremely destructive and bad for society. What we see on the campuses right now across the west are your progressives that you think are normally on the right side of history but only here they misunderstood something? I would say think again, as I see their behaviour and it does not matter if they fight for this or that cause, it's always the same behaviour and the behaviour I see reminds me of witch hunts in the middle ages, this is not civilisation, this is barbarism. Think of the cultural revolution in China, the Revolution in France, even the Nazis had Socialism as part of their ideology, no thanks.
Amen the truth would be that Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion. 2 billion people with no common sense or decency. An exemplar idolized who married a 6 year old but claims moral superiority because he didn’t deflower her until she was 9. Too bad Zainab was unsuccessful in her attempt to whack that crazy mamzer.
And Islam wants to cease momentum as they see how weak the West became as it goes for those leftist ideologies which created a void in people - you see that no one wants to fight anymore, everyone's depressed and has no hope for their future and does not believe anymore in the nationstate and just badmouths it.
They have nothing to really believe in, so they believe in those fake ideologies or can easily be misguided and converted to Islam which happens right now in schools all over the West out of weakness!
So yes Islam is ceasing indeed the moment and from the point onwards that they reached a critical mass they will topple the governments and Islamification of the West will take place! And people are either too blind to see it or are afraid to speak out as they are afraid to not be politically correct and to be called Islamophobs!
What I say here are not conspiracy theories but there is tons of video material out there of Imams or activists that are telling clearly what their plan is for the West! It's a disgrace that political leaders just let it happen!
In my view we all need a shift to the right and reverse those horrible trends of DEI, Wokism and Marxist/Socialistic ideas and we need a hard stance on illegal immigration and teach people again conservative ideas, fact based history and not ideology and the love for their nation and culture and to be proud of it!
To have a healthy dose of love to your own culture or nation does not make you a Nazi! It gives you roots, you know where you are coming from and this makes you a healthy human being, not susceptible to fanatic mumbo jumbo BS that poisons your mind and heart!
Quite simply, the "progressive" movement is actually a totalitarian marxist movement that seeks the upending of western Judeo-Christian civilization and capitalism.
State of Israel is a diversity in community in fact from all corner of the globe they came to the promise land from all religions in there books Israel is called out ,I personally never heard or read a holy scroll where Palestine is mentioned!! Seen? 🈸! For peace is virtu of both sides to renew their policy first reform Zionism to shiyyaism sect issues be put a side and be diversity nation of core existence , issues are they any liberal players to do that peace after selection , cause a nigger will never change the only thing differentiate between negro how is emenicipated , see out of box. 🙏🏽 Shalom Israel 💛
I don’t believe that in either Israel or the West, there is a conservative case for “Palestinianism” either. The very “cause” is radical to its very roots. While libertarians may find fault with Israel’s security policies, and moral traditionalists may find fault with Israel’s social milieu on the grounds that it’s overly permissive, the bottom line is that the “cause” is every bit as harmful to the West as it is to Israel, even if the focus, at least for now, is on destroying Israel.
I mostly agree except for the part at the end that says we progressives must create a system for Palestinian dignity and freedom. No. THEY have to do that. They have to want it. Did we not learn this from Iraq and Afghanistan? “How many westerners does it take to change a fundamentalist Muslim? They have to want to change.”
You are absolutely right. The only thing the world needs to do is…RUN. I’ve read and listened to many former Muslims speak of how violent their lives were on a good day. Death is all around them, constantly. The Western mind cannot fathom how they live.
I"m adding to my original comment. So . . while the Palestinians are figuring out how to improve their lives after "defeat", if they need a role model -- they can look to the Jews
And let me add that the Jews have been the most consistently persecuted group in history and yet each time we pick ourselves up, figure out what to do next, and move forward, creating a new productive lifestyle. Do we kvetch? Yes, but we kvetch about everything. We have the least “victim” mentality of all. Our families remain intact, our social systems, our focus on education, our love of life and contributing to humanity in general
Liberalism is not about fairness or equal rights toward any group for the betterment of the larger population. If a particular cause can't create adequate negatively charged emotion, it's not worth fighting for.
As soon as their movement's goal of division has created sufficient upheaval and chaos, they will pick up their next cause in favor of another small group against the betterment of the general population. And again, their mission is division and chaos. Bringing two groups together is never their goal.
Is it noble to fight for the rights of a gay man to compete against women in college sports? The outrage this movement caused took away rights of biological women who are the general population in favor of a smaller group. It created chaos and ill feeling in the general population because that is the liberal agenda.
Nothing about liberals disrupting college campuses from their campsites, screaming for Palestine and against Israel surprises me. It's what they do. It's not meant to make any sense. It divides.
The last paragraph says it all. Until they add to the "charters" that Israel is a State, and recognize as one, and until they read the history of how Arabs sold land to Jews for more money than the land was worth, and until they remove the word "refugee" from their names, there will never be peace. UNRWA has told them lies, the UN has told the lies, and when the truth is that is may take several generations to begin to understand what is truth and what are lies. When they can start to build communities, factories, etc., and join international trade and commerce, they will not succeed.
Yes, all things their fanatical ideology will never allow…I have no hope I’m sorry to say
You seem to not understand what the progressives and leftists are all about: against freedom of speech, against individualism, against excellence, against merit, against truth, against reality.
Instead they are pro fantasy, pro ideology, pro simplistics world views, pro language policing and if you understood that, then of course it all makes perfect sense why they are pro Hamas which actually means what you are, when you say you are Pro-"Palestine".
Palestinians created this fake identity of a people and of a nation that never existed only to kill the Jews and to destroy Israel.
As the Left and Progressives live in a world of delusions and lies where truth and facts do not matter, as you can be everyone and everything you claim to be, it fits neatly into the fake palestinian narrative, plus the BS ideology of Oppressor and Oppressed narrative where you are automatically on the right side if you are the so called oppressed and that is not even true as the Israelis don't oppress the so called palestinians.
So again we are in the realm of lies and deception, same with the Trans Movement, the BLM Movement, the BDS Movement etc. etc. It's obnoxious. The Left and Progressives are a destructive force to every society and they need to be stopped in their tracks as they are the worst thing that can happen to society. You always get people at the end that are immoral, don't know who they are, which is destructive to society, where they are looking for false ideologies as everyone needs something to believe in and if it's not anymore a religion or your close family and friends it becomes critical race theory or whatever, they are destroying culture, morality and decency. It's horrible.
All the leftist ideas in the world became after a while extremely destructive and bad for society. What we see on the campuses right now across the west are your progressives that you think are normally on the right side of history but only here they misunderstood something? I would say think again, as I see their behaviour and it does not matter if they fight for this or that cause, it's always the same behaviour and the behaviour I see reminds me of witch hunts in the middle ages, this is not civilisation, this is barbarism. Think of the cultural revolution in China, the Revolution in France, even the Nazis had Socialism as part of their ideology, no thanks.
Amen the truth would be that Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion. 2 billion people with no common sense or decency. An exemplar idolized who married a 6 year old but claims moral superiority because he didn’t deflower her until she was 9. Too bad Zainab was unsuccessful in her attempt to whack that crazy mamzer.
And Islam wants to cease momentum as they see how weak the West became as it goes for those leftist ideologies which created a void in people - you see that no one wants to fight anymore, everyone's depressed and has no hope for their future and does not believe anymore in the nationstate and just badmouths it.
They have nothing to really believe in, so they believe in those fake ideologies or can easily be misguided and converted to Islam which happens right now in schools all over the West out of weakness!
So yes Islam is ceasing indeed the moment and from the point onwards that they reached a critical mass they will topple the governments and Islamification of the West will take place! And people are either too blind to see it or are afraid to speak out as they are afraid to not be politically correct and to be called Islamophobs!
What I say here are not conspiracy theories but there is tons of video material out there of Imams or activists that are telling clearly what their plan is for the West! It's a disgrace that political leaders just let it happen!
In my view we all need a shift to the right and reverse those horrible trends of DEI, Wokism and Marxist/Socialistic ideas and we need a hard stance on illegal immigration and teach people again conservative ideas, fact based history and not ideology and the love for their nation and culture and to be proud of it!
To have a healthy dose of love to your own culture or nation does not make you a Nazi! It gives you roots, you know where you are coming from and this makes you a healthy human being, not susceptible to fanatic mumbo jumbo BS that poisons your mind and heart!
Quite simply, the "progressive" movement is actually a totalitarian marxist movement that seeks the upending of western Judeo-Christian civilization and capitalism.
State of Israel is a diversity in community in fact from all corner of the globe they came to the promise land from all religions in there books Israel is called out ,I personally never heard or read a holy scroll where Palestine is mentioned!! Seen? 🈸! For peace is virtu of both sides to renew their policy first reform Zionism to shiyyaism sect issues be put a side and be diversity nation of core existence , issues are they any liberal players to do that peace after selection , cause a nigger will never change the only thing differentiate between negro how is emenicipated , see out of box. 🙏🏽 Shalom Israel 💛
Y’all are psychopaths or apologists for psychopaths. Jews of conscience support a free Palestine
I don’t believe that in either Israel or the West, there is a conservative case for “Palestinianism” either. The very “cause” is radical to its very roots. While libertarians may find fault with Israel’s security policies, and moral traditionalists may find fault with Israel’s social milieu on the grounds that it’s overly permissive, the bottom line is that the “cause” is every bit as harmful to the West as it is to Israel, even if the focus, at least for now, is on destroying Israel.