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Pam Pasake's avatar

I have not and will not see this movie. That said, there is nothing a Palestinian or a far left Israeli can say that justifies the death cults of Palestinians.

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Judith Ross's avatar

The sad part of all of this relating to the Oct 7 massacre that few talk about is that those killed, raped, and taken hostage were doing amazing work helping Gazans, driving children who needed hospital care to Israel hospitals, etc. As to those in Judah and Samaria have tried for years to reach out to the Arabs there, and in return they found themselves threatened on a regular basis. I was in touch with a family who had married children who lived there, Israelis, she was a teacher, he was a carpenter. She taught all day and in evening, she offered various subjects to Arab children who were attending probably UNRWA school. There were about 8, 9, 10 years old and even though they attend their schools 6 days a week, they were not taught how to read, but only memorize by rote the Koran, and only the parts that show contempt for Jews. These children wanted to learn Hebrew and math. A few weeks after school had started, the older boy was found beaten to death, and his parents were charged by the local police, but Arabs thought they were heroes to kill their own for mixing with the enemy. The other children were afraid and stopped coming to the Israeli family. Unfortunately, this Arabs in the region have been so indoctrinated that they killed their own children rather that learn to live with Jews.

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Miriamnae's avatar

Heartbreaking story…no one can live next to people like that.

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Robin Alexander's avatar

This is shocking. Seriously shocking.

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Richard Hacker's avatar

"Cowardice wrapped in self-consciousness". You got that right. Our friend Yuval should go down to Gaza, introduce himself to Hamas as a Jew who wants to tell the world of their terrible situation, and see where it gets him. The people who lived along the border in the "Eshkol envelope" were probably some of the most liberal and progressive people in all of Israel ("Can't we all just get along?"). Where did that get them. If I want to see good Israeli video productions, I'm turning on "Izzy.tv".

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John Matthews's avatar

Tremendously insightful picking apart of a very obviously biased film. The lack of mention of his friend killed by Palestinian gunmen is particularly telling. Erased simply because it doesn't fit a pre-set narrative.

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Miriamnae's avatar

Erased. The twisted lie of it all…

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Susan Sullivan's avatar

Shocking! Yuval went ahead with this and obliterated his friend Hayim who was an absolute hero to silence.What a despicable man! I do not understand how he can hold his head up straight. All for the purpose of lies and propaganda. How despicable of the Awards to endorse this filth! Hayim was a true Hero. I will never watch this film of lies ever!

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Unfortunately BDS had its beginnings in the Israeli far left

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

That is 100% right.

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A Ghost In The Machine's avatar

“…an entire generation of Israeli filmmakers has learned that, if they want to make it internationally, they have to sell out their own country.” They are this generation’s Kapos; vile morally bankrupt creatures.

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Mike Dearing's avatar

Not really. Kapos were Jews who were selected for labour in the camps, being deemed still fit enough to work, instead of going straight to the gas chambers. Vide the film documentary Shoah by Claude Lanzmann.

Quislings would be closer to the mark.

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A Ghost In The Machine's avatar

You’re right, Quisling is more accurate and fitting of the circumstances.

However, I disagree with you regarding Kapos, they were more than just prisoners fit enough to work. They were instrumental in keeping the death camps open for business. Due to their cruelty, after the war some Kapos were tried for war crimes and some were described by camp survivors as having been worse than the Germans. They were involved with and participated in all sorts of depravity including rape and sexual slavery including that of children. They were depraved creatures without honor. “In 2019, the Jewish Chronicle called the word kapo the “worst insult a Jew can give another Jew.” It was with that thought that I used the term.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/kapos

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Mike Dearing's avatar

Thanks for the informative article. I think it heightens my understanding that it was an extreme manifestation of cruelty on the part of the Nazis. In the film Shoah, we also hear how one particular kapo, who had warned a woman about her fate, was punished by being thrust alive into one of the ovens. Their sadism seemingly had no bounds. Truthfully, we might all think that we would have been heroes, but who rally knows.

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Robert's avatar

Hollywood, once a haven for Jews, and a bastion of Jewish and American values, is becoming more judenrein every day, and it shows. You can see how awful movies have become today, including this virulently antisemitic piece of propaganda.

Leni Riefenstahl would be very, very proud.

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Alice Franco's avatar

Antisemitic is a word that doesn't mean anything nowadays. It's used every time a Jew feels angry. It's like when black people get angry because they don't get things their way so they call everyone racist. Holocaust was almost 100 years ago, wake up. Jews are not poor or victims anymore.

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Jules's avatar

Great point about how they can only make this film due to the freedom of speech they have in Israel. It’s like when ppl come to the U.S from the Middle East and go protest in the streets about how much they hate the West. The irony…

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

I had no idea the director was killed on Oct 7. And no mention at the Oscars. Shameful.

Great article.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

A friend of the director was killed on October 7th.

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

Thx for correction. Still.

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George Cervenka's avatar

Much of Hollywood routes for the down and out (that in their view is typical of mankind), the more evil the better, they see them as the oppressed, by whom?, anyone who has self-respect and love of being alive.

Perhaps it would be appropriate to say that the majority of Americans are still of the can-do camp, while Hollywood is busily attacking America’s greatness and virtues.

Note the viewing audience of the Oscars has declined to a trickle.

They don’t get it, they are their only best viewers. Losers.

That is with the exception of some of the greats, including Clint Eastwood, who are rightly not part of the “Hollywood establishment”.

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Chana's avatar

Palestinianism is an inversion of reality and the ultimate “cultural appropriation”. They have stolen our story / history and made it theirs. Everything they accuse us of, they are guilty of.

That our own people legitimize them is painful, but is there anything new?

We are our own worst enemy.

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Warbling J Turpitude's avatar

"“If Hollywood wants to watch a Palestinian documentary, I recommend that they watch the hundreds of hours in which the Palestinians have documented themselves murdering entire families, kidnapping the elderly and infants, and committing every crime against humanity imaginable.”

Just how possible is it do that? i mean. watch even several hours of such footage? Can one for.example rock up to an Israeli consulate and request to view? Those of us who've never seen any cannot be blamed for our curiosity, can we?

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Mr. Ala's avatar

The Best Antisemitic Documentary SO FAR.

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Puck's avatar

"What Yuval Abraham represents — and what his silence about Hayim Katsman proves — is the deep moral confusion of a tiny fringe within Israeli society,"

Let's call a thing for what it is. Yuval is not displaying moral confusion but moral perversity.

"By erasing Hayim at the Oscars, Yuval exposed the moral bankruptcy of his worldview. "

Sorry, but he is displaying not moral bankruptcy but moral depravity.

"Peace comes when Palestinian leadership chooses to abandon terror, recognize Israel as the Jewish state, and finally accept that Jews are not “colonizers” in our own ancestral home."

Good luck with that, considering that their entire claim is based on two fundamental religious principles found in the Quran and Haddiths:

1. on Surah 2:191's opening command is "Kill them wherever you come upon them . . ."

2. Haddith Sahih Muslim 7339:82 (2922) elaborates: "The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews."

3. Surah 2:191 — instruction to reclaim any territory that once came under your dominion.

As no religion amends their sacred texts or excises offending passages, the only escape is to abrogate the former two Surahs (Surah 2:106 authorizes such action) with these two:

1. Surah 5:21 which states that Allah had declared the Israelites were to enter the Promised Land.

2. Surah 2:253 which proclaims that Allah does what he wills, meaning he causes those to win who win and those to lose who lose. And especially Surah 4:90 — "If Allah had willed, He would have empowered them to fight you." See also Surah 7:128.

In other words, for pious Muslims, the Muminin, killing Jews is a religious obligation. Hence "the Palestinian cause" Western voices and many, many Jews often call the conflict is not a political war but a religious at this moment focusing on Israel but whose ultimate end goal is Dawah, global Islam.

"They have to erase the complexities of the conflict "

"Complexities" would seem to imply validity in the kifah (struggle). When talking about the Final Solution, should the approach be addressing complexities or is it more a clear cut case of pathological hatred driving the program? Is the intent to eliminate the Jews and turn Israel into a part of an Arab caliphate merely a question of complexities or one of a well articulated religiously driven goal of extermination pure and simple?

"These filmmakers . . . giddily trash the country that gave them such freedom, while staying silent about the regimes that would silence or imprison them if they ever directed their cameras the other way."

These Chickens for KFC are bedmates of Queers for Palestine. Hope both enjoy the inevitable outcome.

As the article astutely concludes, "[Art in service of propaganda] is not courage. It’s not art. It’s cowardice wrapped in self-righteousness."

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Diana Murray's avatar

"Of course, Hayim wasn’t mentioned once at the Oscars award ceremony on Sunday — not by his “friend” Yuval or by anyone else."

I've read that this isn't true. I'm not watching the speech. Can anyone settle this argument?

About the Druze who stabbed the elderly Israeli Arab. I've read he was simply a mental case. True or nah?

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