Most of the Jewish leftists who reject Judaism and/or Israel do so for leftist reasons. They hate religion, they hate nationalism and they hate the West. Israel and the Jewish people represent all the things they hate. And as you note they always feel the need to prove themselves to the other leftists. This is why Bernie Sanders is one of the most mouth foaming, rabid denouncers of Israel in Congress.
This is a great and concise explanation. They’re today’s Yevsektsiya, the Jewish section of the Soviet Communists under Lenin. Except eventually the persecution came for them too. It didn’t matter what they believed or where their loyalties lied. A Jew was a Jew. That’s what these self-haters don’t get.
Yeah, Bernie Sanders is one of so many disappointments. I used to be a proud progressive, but now I can't help but see that I was one of the bad guys. It's painful, but it's more painful to continue to participate in such evil. 10/7 changed my view of almost everything.
The S-HJ stereotype has been around for a long time, as the article outlines. Its been a long time coming but the Christian (post Christian?) world is catching up fast - the modern anti-Westernism of the left looks like a carbon copy.
Your list of characteristics looks familiar...
1- substitute in progressive/woke ideology
2-vengeance against one's own culture/history
3-cast aside morality including support for violence while preaching peace
yup! 100% agree with the adolescent theory proffered here... methinks these fellas (mostly fellas) were perhaps mercilessly bullied fer bein' joos as kids (some of us, raisin' my hand here!) were at times--an' we just took it on the chin an' carried on even tho' it sucked (bein' a girl I wuz chased not hit--moi / a "christ killer" at the tender age of seven...)--I mean look'it 'em--Glenn Greenwald, Norman Finkelstein, an' Oy Noam...--these ain't "Paul Newmans" let alone young William Shatners 'er Kirk Douglas's-- None of the chewish anti-semite haters are lookers! Take a gander at Ron Unz. I'm sorry. So to "fit in" an' git "popular" these mean little nebbishes found a way-- yup, it's ugly ta say but if they were teased fer bein' joo boys, "hebe jeebies" etc. (and I DID see an' hear that bein' used on some'a my own classmates as a kid 'fore I moved ta NYC) -- one way of gettin' back was goin' full-tilt-boogie against their origins/faith, etc.
OF COURSE some found humor--however much they might'a been teased--an' never turned on their own--Mel Brooks! George Burns! Zero Mostel! Jackie Mason! --none lookers but lovely ladies adored 'em fer their funny bones--I believe all had mahvelous marriages too. (Add in songman Irving Berlin--am I right?) Or... am I nuts / messhuge nuts? (currently unemployed act-truss writin' in the vernacular as a crackpot--YES I am indeedy! but there's truth in what I'm a sayin') This is the payback of the immature meiskeit nerds who got tired of their teasin' an' the piana lessons their non-jooish friends did NOT have ta take!
Sadly they end up bringin' the WORST bullies onta the rest of us. If only a raspberry (Bronx Cheer) would send 'em runnin'---
What about the modern phenomenon of Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe (and other New Historians)? What is the root of their delusion?
“Were they non-Jews, there is no chance that anyone would pay such fervent attention to them.” But they are! That is what makes their influence enormously widespread - they are the Jews who deplore Zionism and reject the legitimacy of the Jewish state. I am forever befuddled by this phenomenon.
More than ever, today I feel like Self-Hating Jews, or as I call them Jewtards, should be sent to Gaza and made to live there for a year or two. Especially the "Queers for Palestine" crowd. I use the term Jewtard for a reason. It's because you either are a moron or retarded, to believe that as a queer, you WON'T be thrown off a building. Hence the name "JEWTARD."
I can only think that those aforementioned had been hurt or mistreated ... no other explanation seems to suffice. It is a "new" religion that is needed, conversion may be a road ... or even no religions at that. Yet despite those "roads" I can neither turn my back on my childhood nuturing (Jewish even though I am a mischlinge) not the friends I enjoyed during my life (throw in a few Jewish converts). I truly love them all. Though I am neither religious or even minimally practicing (except for Yahrzeit ... my grandmother did a phenomonal job with me ... without a yell or a slap ... one disappointed look would leave me decimated.)
I have this vague suspicion that the self-hating Jew might be a covert (even to themselves), cultic Christian. Jewish communities in Europe spent centuries in contact with Christians - it certainly seems possible.
These self-hating Jews can make it hard for non-Jews to criticize antisemites. I’ve have this statement of Henry Kissinger quoted to me: “If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be antisemitic.” He added: “Any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.”
The implication is: an actual Jew said this, so what do you know? This was one of many antisemites who flock to the website of the self-hating Jew Ron Unz. The site has an elaborate commenting system that attracts these types.
Frau Katze. The State is in the brains of Editors such as Forward.com. I have had personal experience of the ongoing attacks on prominent Jewish people, where The State seeks to usurp the inner voice i.e. the consciousness of the Target by The State. Kissinger was attacked in this way too. All Jews, and commentary about Jews, in the public space, is 'Policed' (i.e. attacked) in this way. Our full monitoring of how this is done using the electricity mains and the advanced Equipment used by the State, is now with everyone who needs (that is to say, subjects of Nazi attack) to know.
I object to the locution “self-hating.” If the ones I have known are any sample, these are people whose self-love is monumental. It is other Jews whom they regard as their disposable inferiors.
It’s an exclusively religious point of view, though. People can be Jewish regardless of their religion (or lack of it) as proved by the law of return, being secular doesn’t erase it. Zionism was secular indeed (inspired by Socialism actually) and made Israel a reality. Zionism was a consequence of Haskalah (Jewish illuminism) rather than a religious phenomenon, without those Secular Jews Israel wouldn’t probably exist.
The fact self-hating jews exist cannot be explained only on a religious basis, I believe.
Thanks Dan. For me personally, this is an eye opener. I remember being taught the William of Norfolk story at school.
As an adult I have noticed that converts from one religion to another, from religion to atheism, tend to be the most vocal and hateful about what they have left behind, and the most religious and fanatical in their new religion.
Understanding the hurt people experience from the leaders of their faith and outsiders helps to explain why people become disillusioned and then turn to hate.
I get it, it happens a lot in the church, but I didn’t realize it happened in Judaism too although it’s obvious really.
I hadn’t really thought about how much religion and culture go hand in hand.
One thing I would like to correct though is that baptism whether infant or adult does not make a person a Christian. It was the lie the church hierarchy fed to the illiterate or the brainwashed to fill its coffers and the churches.
It is what is known as a PsyOps by The State (Psychological Operation, to attack young Jews in their own homes). I was attacked by MI5 continuously from my Childhood onwards, and there has been wholesale Theft of all the Items from my childhood by the Anti-Semitic team in MI5 in Manchester England, for 'The Game' (basically attacks on Ethnic Minorities here in The UK for the purpose of hiding National Debt on Jewish lines). This is THE REAL FACE of MI5 here in England. All my paperwork detailing the hundreds and possibly thousands of people attacked in this way, is with you, and is discretely around the World to all who need to know how The State operates. These attacks happen as self-image and character is being formed. This is how it is done.
(To the editor of this site): AntiFASCIST Alert: Planned attack by Nazi element in Five, against the Record, held abroad, of the method and the Equipment, discussed just now. X Dan
Most of the Jewish leftists who reject Judaism and/or Israel do so for leftist reasons. They hate religion, they hate nationalism and they hate the West. Israel and the Jewish people represent all the things they hate. And as you note they always feel the need to prove themselves to the other leftists. This is why Bernie Sanders is one of the most mouth foaming, rabid denouncers of Israel in Congress.
This is a great and concise explanation. They’re today’s Yevsektsiya, the Jewish section of the Soviet Communists under Lenin. Except eventually the persecution came for them too. It didn’t matter what they believed or where their loyalties lied. A Jew was a Jew. That’s what these self-haters don’t get.
Yeah, Bernie Sanders is one of so many disappointments. I used to be a proud progressive, but now I can't help but see that I was one of the bad guys. It's painful, but it's more painful to continue to participate in such evil. 10/7 changed my view of almost everything.
Good for you, Penny!
Fortunately, I was never a "progressive" (gaslighting term for "regressive") - proud or otherwise.
Karl Luger, Racist Mayor of Vienna in 1900: 'I decide who is a Jew!'
The S-HJ stereotype has been around for a long time, as the article outlines. Its been a long time coming but the Christian (post Christian?) world is catching up fast - the modern anti-Westernism of the left looks like a carbon copy.
Your list of characteristics looks familiar...
1- substitute in progressive/woke ideology
2-vengeance against one's own culture/history
3-cast aside morality including support for violence while preaching peace
4-myths, libels - eg colonialism/oppression/institutional-racism etc
Good point.
yup! 100% agree with the adolescent theory proffered here... methinks these fellas (mostly fellas) were perhaps mercilessly bullied fer bein' joos as kids (some of us, raisin' my hand here!) were at times--an' we just took it on the chin an' carried on even tho' it sucked (bein' a girl I wuz chased not hit--moi / a "christ killer" at the tender age of seven...)--I mean look'it 'em--Glenn Greenwald, Norman Finkelstein, an' Oy Noam...--these ain't "Paul Newmans" let alone young William Shatners 'er Kirk Douglas's-- None of the chewish anti-semite haters are lookers! Take a gander at Ron Unz. I'm sorry. So to "fit in" an' git "popular" these mean little nebbishes found a way-- yup, it's ugly ta say but if they were teased fer bein' joo boys, "hebe jeebies" etc. (and I DID see an' hear that bein' used on some'a my own classmates as a kid 'fore I moved ta NYC) -- one way of gettin' back was goin' full-tilt-boogie against their origins/faith, etc.
OF COURSE some found humor--however much they might'a been teased--an' never turned on their own--Mel Brooks! George Burns! Zero Mostel! Jackie Mason! --none lookers but lovely ladies adored 'em fer their funny bones--I believe all had mahvelous marriages too. (Add in songman Irving Berlin--am I right?) Or... am I nuts / messhuge nuts? (currently unemployed act-truss writin' in the vernacular as a crackpot--YES I am indeedy! but there's truth in what I'm a sayin') This is the payback of the immature meiskeit nerds who got tired of their teasin' an' the piana lessons their non-jooish friends did NOT have ta take!
Sadly they end up bringin' the WORST bullies onta the rest of us. If only a raspberry (Bronx Cheer) would send 'em runnin'---
What about the modern phenomenon of Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe (and other New Historians)? What is the root of their delusion?
“Were they non-Jews, there is no chance that anyone would pay such fervent attention to them.” But they are! That is what makes their influence enormously widespread - they are the Jews who deplore Zionism and reject the legitimacy of the Jewish state. I am forever befuddled by this phenomenon.
More than ever, today I feel like Self-Hating Jews, or as I call them Jewtards, should be sent to Gaza and made to live there for a year or two. Especially the "Queers for Palestine" crowd. I use the term Jewtard for a reason. It's because you either are a moron or retarded, to believe that as a queer, you WON'T be thrown off a building. Hence the name "JEWTARD."
💯%, Sunny.
I can only think that those aforementioned had been hurt or mistreated ... no other explanation seems to suffice. It is a "new" religion that is needed, conversion may be a road ... or even no religions at that. Yet despite those "roads" I can neither turn my back on my childhood nuturing (Jewish even though I am a mischlinge) not the friends I enjoyed during my life (throw in a few Jewish converts). I truly love them all. Though I am neither religious or even minimally practicing (except for Yahrzeit ... my grandmother did a phenomonal job with me ... without a yell or a slap ... one disappointed look would leave me decimated.)
'I can only think that those aforementioned had been hurt or mistreated' you write. See my post, above. You are actually right, Rosalie. Best wishes.
I have this vague suspicion that the self-hating Jew might be a covert (even to themselves), cultic Christian. Jewish communities in Europe spent centuries in contact with Christians - it certainly seems possible.
“…save me from ruthless opponents, be they members of the Covenant or not.”
-from the Birkhot Hashahar (which is how many centuries old?…)
These self-hating Jews can make it hard for non-Jews to criticize antisemites. I’ve have this statement of Henry Kissinger quoted to me: “If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be antisemitic.” He added: “Any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.”
https://forward.com/culture/470300/kissinger-at-100-if-it-were-not-for-the-accident-of-my-birth-i-would-be/
The implication is: an actual Jew said this, so what do you know? This was one of many antisemites who flock to the website of the self-hating Jew Ron Unz. The site has an elaborate commenting system that attracts these types.
Frau Katze. The State is in the brains of Editors such as Forward.com. I have had personal experience of the ongoing attacks on prominent Jewish people, where The State seeks to usurp the inner voice i.e. the consciousness of the Target by The State. Kissinger was attacked in this way too. All Jews, and commentary about Jews, in the public space, is 'Policed' (i.e. attacked) in this way. Our full monitoring of how this is done using the electricity mains and the advanced Equipment used by the State, is now with everyone who needs (that is to say, subjects of Nazi attack) to know.
AntiFASCIST Alert: Planned attack by Nazi element in Five, against the Record of the method and the Equipment, held abroad, discussed just now. X Dan
Self hating Jews have an ancient lineage going back to Esau who rejected the legacy and heritage of Abraham
I object to the locution “self-hating.” If the ones I have known are any sample, these are people whose self-love is monumental. It is other Jews whom they regard as their disposable inferiors.
It’s an exclusively religious point of view, though. People can be Jewish regardless of their religion (or lack of it) as proved by the law of return, being secular doesn’t erase it. Zionism was secular indeed (inspired by Socialism actually) and made Israel a reality. Zionism was a consequence of Haskalah (Jewish illuminism) rather than a religious phenomenon, without those Secular Jews Israel wouldn’t probably exist.
The fact self-hating jews exist cannot be explained only on a religious basis, I believe.
Thanks Dan. For me personally, this is an eye opener. I remember being taught the William of Norfolk story at school.
As an adult I have noticed that converts from one religion to another, from religion to atheism, tend to be the most vocal and hateful about what they have left behind, and the most religious and fanatical in their new religion.
Understanding the hurt people experience from the leaders of their faith and outsiders helps to explain why people become disillusioned and then turn to hate.
I get it, it happens a lot in the church, but I didn’t realize it happened in Judaism too although it’s obvious really.
I hadn’t really thought about how much religion and culture go hand in hand.
One thing I would like to correct though is that baptism whether infant or adult does not make a person a Christian. It was the lie the church hierarchy fed to the illiterate or the brainwashed to fill its coffers and the churches.
It is what is known as a PsyOps by The State (Psychological Operation, to attack young Jews in their own homes). I was attacked by MI5 continuously from my Childhood onwards, and there has been wholesale Theft of all the Items from my childhood by the Anti-Semitic team in MI5 in Manchester England, for 'The Game' (basically attacks on Ethnic Minorities here in The UK for the purpose of hiding National Debt on Jewish lines). This is THE REAL FACE of MI5 here in England. All my paperwork detailing the hundreds and possibly thousands of people attacked in this way, is with you, and is discretely around the World to all who need to know how The State operates. These attacks happen as self-image and character is being formed. This is how it is done.
(To the editor of this site): AntiFASCIST Alert: Planned attack by Nazi element in Five, against the Record, held abroad, of the method and the Equipment, discussed just now. X Dan