As I write this, my blood is boiling!! I replied to a recent post, that there was a STINK coming out of Joe Biden and the Democrat Party. It is putrid and there is no hope for them, they are rotten. The man is failing and not in control. However it is unforgivable that this Zombie should be able to call out control on Israel. The Country that stands for democracy and fairness, Science annd enables LBGT individuals to flourish and most importantly, is the only Country in the Middle East to stand as a bulwark against Muslim Fundamentalism. Israel , we owe you everything! The manic and ignorant attitude of the West, at this time, is terrifying. I will never forgive them for this. I myself, will only make a small difference but I will shout out your cause as loud as I can. Israel be Strong, Stay safe and Win this War.
I hear you. I would never vote for Trump, but I may not vote for President at all (I live in Florida so it doesn't make much of a difference). I think Israel is better off without the U.S. It's better NOT to rely on anyone.
If Biden is beyond redemption what can you say about the kapo Blinken? Trump is 100% right: Any Jew who votes for Biden needs to have his head examined.
I have been hearing this lately and from the most surprising sources .... It is not that I cannot (and have in the past) voted Republican, but Trump? I feel it would be a disservice to America as the Dem. Party may be.
Israel is fully capable, given adequate time, of producing any of the munitions and advanced weaponry it needs. I would further argue that it should. American military aid to Israel is for the most part designed to benefit the American Military/Industrial Complex, whose companies have long used Israel to test and improve their products. In fact they need Israel for that purpose. It is time for Israel to leverage that expertise: self-reliance will in the long run result in the Americans asking for and paying for the expertise. The time has come to reverse the steadily increasing dependance of Israel on American military hardware that has ensued ever since they refused the turbine jet engines for the Lavie.
Agree 💯 %. In fact the foreign aid that Israel gets makes it more dependent upon the USA by design, the missiles for the Iron Dome used to be manufactured in Israel, but the USA forced Israel into allowing the manufacture to be given to Raytheon in the USA, therefore making Israel more dependent upon us. Israel is the only country that receives foreign aid from the USA and has to pay about 80% back by buying weapons and military equipment from us. Actually the USA needs Israel more than Israel needs the USA. Israel is, as you said, perfectly capable of manufacturing its own weapons & standing on its own two feet. It’s time Israel stopped supporting the industrial military complex of the USA. Especially considering the treatment it gets. This is not to mention all the intel, agricultural developments, scientific discoveries, etc that Israel shares with the USA.
A scathing indictment of the damage Biden has done to Israel and, consequently, US Jews. He will forever be stained as the president who prioritized a genocidal terror organization over a democratic ally. There’s a special place in hell for Biden and his kapo Blinken.
I agree with the analysis. As an American voter I am left with nothing but repulsive options in the presidential race. Hard to determine which is the least repulsive. Depressing!
You may not like Trump personally, but look me straight in the EYES and tell me Trump would do this to Israel.Then determine whether you are a typical Liberal Jew or a REAL THINKING Jew whose had enough of the scorn from the Demoncrats!
I wish I could put that any more gently, but I cannot!
I despise Trump. He’s a liar, con artist and traitor to democracy. His autocratic buddy, Putin, has thrown his lot in with Iran, so I don’t take anything Trump says supporting Israel seriously. Trump will never oppose Putin. So he’s not anyone I can support now or ever.
The adjectives used to describe Trump also fit the profile of Biden. Trump would not have thrown Israel under the bus. Biden threw his lot in with Iran and Iran and others are laughing at those in the WH.
No, he might not have thrown Israel under the bus - but that is for darn sure what he tried to do to *us* on January 6th, and he is very explicit about expanding even further. He has made no secret of the fact that he wants to be dictator for life, and plans to jail or murder any opponents - meaning *anyone* who *dares* to disagree with him.
As critical as support for Israel is, and as angry as I am at Biden, we still have to re-elect him just to keep Dump and his traitorous plans out of the White House. No matter what else, first and foremost, we *must* ensure the survival of our democracy and Constitution.
The only person who is killing our Constitution is Biden. He breaks it every day. We don’t have a democracy, we have a Representative Republic, democracy is mob rule. So stop with the ‘our democracy’ because we don’t have or want one.
You don’t listen very well. At President Trump’s inauguration in his speech he specifically stated “This is not just a transfer of power from one administration to another, it is a transfer of power back TO YOU, THE PEOPLE.” Does that sound like a dictator?
Not to mention the fact that this time around, he is *very openly & EXPLICITLY* saying he is going to be a dictator, to jail everyone who disagrees with him, and much, much more.
As to Israel, while I agree that Jerusalem is (obviously) the capitol, and it makes sense for our embassy to be there, the fact that Trump moved it has definitely not helped with the situation between Israel and the “Palestinians.” He has zero understanding of the overall situation, to the point of being a danger to Israel with ill-advised moves like this.
And Israel is the *only* one of our allies he didn’t totally piss off or turn off. He continues to court dictators and the enemies of the US while totally alienating most of our friends. His threats not to come to their aid mean they would be none too quick to help *us* out if we ever need it. He’s a danger to the US as well as the rest of the world.
I don’t like Biden’s waffling on aid to Israel or failure to clamp down on these horrible Islamist protests one little bit, but we have to look at the overall picture of what a candidate will or won’t do about a wide range of other issues when deciding who to vote for. It would be an utter shanda to elect someone just because they support Israel but who would destroy our *own* country and democracy and civil rights.
I agree with you what you've said except for survival of our Democracy and Constitution. Biden has done and is doing everything to destroy both. He ignores laws and our Constitution, and he and his admin have thrown Israel under the bus. He would never get my vote, ever.
Right Trump never opposed Putin. Except for killing Russian troops in Syria, halting his pipeline, bringing down the price of oil so that his economy tanked, making the rest of the world not buy gas from him. Yeah he was real good to Putin. And I’m sure based on what we’ve heard about some of his other diplomacy he threatened a lot worse. Sorry to disturb your fantasies with facts. Go look it up.
Tell me what exactly do you hate so much about President Trump? Is he perfect? NO, but he loves this country & what he’s going through to get back in charge and fix things, I highly doubt you would be able to do for one day. I’m really interested in your answer, because whatever you come up with probably is brainwashing from MSNBC or CNN or any other media garbage & lies you have bought into. I didn’t vote for the president or vice president in 2016, because I thought the choices were so bad, I voted down ticket. I would crawl over broken glass to vote for him now.
And this is why American Jews must vote Trump. I suspect the Democrats will cheat every way they can in the election, but we have to fight. This is a battle for civilization against chaos and a medieval homicidal ideology. Somehow the Democrats stand with the Barbarians. All Americans need to reject this Marxist takeover and deconstruction of the West. This is not a drill. Israel will not be the last ally betrayed.
You are definitely right about the “battle… against… a medieval homicidal ideology.” Islam is a cancer and *has* to be stamped out - everywhere - if they refuse to *honestly* and completely reform, and to get control of their own adherents who won’t get on board with that.
I agree with much that you say, although I'm not sure about the Marxist part. But that doesn't matter (these terms are slippery at best). My problem is that Trump states out loud that he wants to do away with democracy (the 2025 thing) and create a Christian nation (that's just a different sharia law - probably not as bad as a Muslim one) and I find that scary. IF it were a normal Republican I would definitely vote for that person.
As soon as Biden said back in October that his administration’s support for Israel was rock solid and unwavering I could see this day coming. Biden has no moral compass, and nothing he says can be believed. He has supported Iran out of fear, abandoned Afghanistan out of fear, and will abandon Taiwan out of fear. It is a terrible time to be an American because most of us whole heartedly support Israel and are appalled at this decision. You are correct - Israel cannot rely on American unreservedly, now and in the future. It will get better with Biden gone, but it will still be a risk. God bless Israel and may you conquer your enemies and live in peace. For what little it is worth, you have my support.
The only thing Biden had done right in his presidency was supporting Israel, and now he has blown that. Once again he has proven to be a disappointment.
I am a Jew from back East originally. I have a cousin back East who actually has such a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome that he thinks anything Biden does is okay!
I couldn't even imagine how any Jew could agree with What Biden is doing and still vote for that bastard.
The real problem is Biden is not in charge and that Muslim Obama is making all the policy decisions behind the scenes.
Biden just appointed Maher Bitar as his Special Counsel. Take a look at his CV and the appointment looks even more despicable, hungry for votes in Dearborn. Biden has sold his soul to Satan.
I can't imagine the Muslims of Michigan voting for Trump. They just won't vote at all most likely. And Biden did make inroads with the auto workers there, so . . . will be interesting to see how Michigan goes.
They may sit at home or vote for any of the others who will be running. Not all auto workers are thrilled with Biden. Whatever happens Biden's Dearborn Effect will not work.
He is truly a horror - and a Georgetown alum. My alma mater. I couldn’t be more appalled and ashamed.
Then again, the school has been taking money for its Arab studies program from Saudi Arabia for decades, and now also has a campus in Qatar, so I suppose I really shouldn’t be so surprised that it has produced this nightmare.
Honestly I think that's a ridiculous conspiracy theory. But who knows. I read somewhere that this goes back to the Clintons. As always, the U.S. plays both sides of all situations. Lately, however, it's definitely more overtly anti-Israel. I'm not disagreeing with that and I will not vote for Biden, although I would have before all of this.
*Please* look at the big picture and the effect that Trump would have on *our* country, democracy, and civil rights, as well as the rest of the world before deciding to vote for him just because of his support of Israel.
If he gets back in power, our democracy will be finished, and our allies other than Israel are very likely to abandon us.
He would stop aid to Ukraine, which would let his buddy Putin overrun the country - and land on Europe’s doorstep. Before you know it, he’d be marching into Paris.
I would never vote for Trump. It’s just that when I breathe my last I want to know I did not vote for Biden. I live in Florida so it won’t matter. If my vote did matter I would probably vote for Biden. Definitely voting Dem down ballot
I have always valued intelligent people ... when a plane is being flown, you want the pilot to be very smart, when surgery is being performed, you want that Dr. to be smart, etc. etc. I am not comfortable trusting the safety, security and future to Donald Trump. I have watched the headlines (and tv) ... even the lack of moral compass doesn't disturb me as much as his lack of political acumen, history, inability to judge character. In short, he is not presidential material. This election is far more than a Presidential election: I wish I had the answers .. I only have questions and the answers I hear unhinge me (don't think much of Biden either). We are in deep sh-t !!!
It’s part of this “yes, but” of those who are too weak to call it as it is. For example: YES the crimes Hamas committed on 7 October were terrible, BUT the Palestinians have been suffering for years.”
It’s also part of trying to be all things to all people (those eligible to vote) with increasing numbers of Muslims in the US electorate. You end up pleasing nobody.
But the idea that there are many far-left loonies in the Democrat Party is risible. Seems like the legacy of McCarthy … to outsiders, there is no leftist party in the US. There’s the right-wing party (goes further right than conservative) and the centrist party which has accommodates old-fashioned conservatives (wet conservatives we call them, centrists, the mildly left, and a small number of leftists).
I don’t believe that it’s as simple as stereotyping Israel supporters and detractors into political parties, especially as the right continues with its anti-Semitic agenda, as as the left does.
We simply have lost support across the spectrum. Decades of careful strategic anti-Israel propaganda (which is another way of saying anti-Jewish, these people don’t care for distinctions), enabled by billions of $$$ given to those institutions, politicians, and high-profile people (like the Kushner-Trumps) hasn’t been for nothing. Saudi Arabia is laughing: destabilising western democracy and fighting its Shi-ite enemies. Iran is laughing as its Sunni enemies destabilise western democracy.
Israel seems to be expendable to everyone. We shouldn’t be surprised. The Allies knew about the Holocaust and chose to do nothing at the time. Not to mention the powerful isolationist (and anti-Semitic) stance …
As I write this, my blood is boiling!! I replied to a recent post, that there was a STINK coming out of Joe Biden and the Democrat Party. It is putrid and there is no hope for them, they are rotten. The man is failing and not in control. However it is unforgivable that this Zombie should be able to call out control on Israel. The Country that stands for democracy and fairness, Science annd enables LBGT individuals to flourish and most importantly, is the only Country in the Middle East to stand as a bulwark against Muslim Fundamentalism. Israel , we owe you everything! The manic and ignorant attitude of the West, at this time, is terrifying. I will never forgive them for this. I myself, will only make a small difference but I will shout out your cause as loud as I can. Israel be Strong, Stay safe and Win this War.
Amen!
I hear you. I would never vote for Trump, but I may not vote for President at all (I live in Florida so it doesn't make much of a difference). I think Israel is better off without the U.S. It's better NOT to rely on anyone.
If Biden is beyond redemption what can you say about the kapo Blinken? Trump is 100% right: Any Jew who votes for Biden needs to have his head examined.
Any Jew that votes for Trump
and his evangelical nationalist white racists is a moron
Netanyahu has thrown Israeli democracy to the neofascist ultraorthodox who are destroying Israel , Hamas best friends
My, my. Go5 your metaphors mixed up. Still rebelling against Hebrew school or just the stigma of having had to go.
I have been hearing this lately and from the most surprising sources .... It is not that I cannot (and have in the past) voted Republican, but Trump? I feel it would be a disservice to America as the Dem. Party may be.
Israel is fully capable, given adequate time, of producing any of the munitions and advanced weaponry it needs. I would further argue that it should. American military aid to Israel is for the most part designed to benefit the American Military/Industrial Complex, whose companies have long used Israel to test and improve their products. In fact they need Israel for that purpose. It is time for Israel to leverage that expertise: self-reliance will in the long run result in the Americans asking for and paying for the expertise. The time has come to reverse the steadily increasing dependance of Israel on American military hardware that has ensued ever since they refused the turbine jet engines for the Lavie.
Agree 💯 %. In fact the foreign aid that Israel gets makes it more dependent upon the USA by design, the missiles for the Iron Dome used to be manufactured in Israel, but the USA forced Israel into allowing the manufacture to be given to Raytheon in the USA, therefore making Israel more dependent upon us. Israel is the only country that receives foreign aid from the USA and has to pay about 80% back by buying weapons and military equipment from us. Actually the USA needs Israel more than Israel needs the USA. Israel is, as you said, perfectly capable of manufacturing its own weapons & standing on its own two feet. It’s time Israel stopped supporting the industrial military complex of the USA. Especially considering the treatment it gets. This is not to mention all the intel, agricultural developments, scientific discoveries, etc that Israel shares with the USA.
100% love it!!
A scathing indictment of the damage Biden has done to Israel and, consequently, US Jews. He will forever be stained as the president who prioritized a genocidal terror organization over a democratic ally. There’s a special place in hell for Biden and his kapo Blinken.
I agree with the analysis. As an American voter I am left with nothing but repulsive options in the presidential race. Hard to determine which is the least repulsive. Depressing!
You may not like Trump personally, but look me straight in the EYES and tell me Trump would do this to Israel.Then determine whether you are a typical Liberal Jew or a REAL THINKING Jew whose had enough of the scorn from the Demoncrats!
I wish I could put that any more gently, but I cannot!
I despise Trump. He’s a liar, con artist and traitor to democracy. His autocratic buddy, Putin, has thrown his lot in with Iran, so I don’t take anything Trump says supporting Israel seriously. Trump will never oppose Putin. So he’s not anyone I can support now or ever.
The adjectives used to describe Trump also fit the profile of Biden. Trump would not have thrown Israel under the bus. Biden threw his lot in with Iran and Iran and others are laughing at those in the WH.
No, he might not have thrown Israel under the bus - but that is for darn sure what he tried to do to *us* on January 6th, and he is very explicit about expanding even further. He has made no secret of the fact that he wants to be dictator for life, and plans to jail or murder any opponents - meaning *anyone* who *dares* to disagree with him.
As critical as support for Israel is, and as angry as I am at Biden, we still have to re-elect him just to keep Dump and his traitorous plans out of the White House. No matter what else, first and foremost, we *must* ensure the survival of our democracy and Constitution.
The only person who is killing our Constitution is Biden. He breaks it every day. We don’t have a democracy, we have a Representative Republic, democracy is mob rule. So stop with the ‘our democracy’ because we don’t have or want one.
You don’t listen very well. At President Trump’s inauguration in his speech he specifically stated “This is not just a transfer of power from one administration to another, it is a transfer of power back TO YOU, THE PEOPLE.” Does that sound like a dictator?
Actions speak a lot louder than words, though.
Not to mention the fact that this time around, he is *very openly & EXPLICITLY* saying he is going to be a dictator, to jail everyone who disagrees with him, and much, much more.
As to Israel, while I agree that Jerusalem is (obviously) the capitol, and it makes sense for our embassy to be there, the fact that Trump moved it has definitely not helped with the situation between Israel and the “Palestinians.” He has zero understanding of the overall situation, to the point of being a danger to Israel with ill-advised moves like this.
And Israel is the *only* one of our allies he didn’t totally piss off or turn off. He continues to court dictators and the enemies of the US while totally alienating most of our friends. His threats not to come to their aid mean they would be none too quick to help *us* out if we ever need it. He’s a danger to the US as well as the rest of the world.
I don’t like Biden’s waffling on aid to Israel or failure to clamp down on these horrible Islamist protests one little bit, but we have to look at the overall picture of what a candidate will or won’t do about a wide range of other issues when deciding who to vote for. It would be an utter shanda to elect someone just because they support Israel but who would destroy our *own* country and democracy and civil rights.
I agree with you what you've said except for survival of our Democracy and Constitution. Biden has done and is doing everything to destroy both. He ignores laws and our Constitution, and he and his admin have thrown Israel under the bus. He would never get my vote, ever.
Right Trump never opposed Putin. Except for killing Russian troops in Syria, halting his pipeline, bringing down the price of oil so that his economy tanked, making the rest of the world not buy gas from him. Yeah he was real good to Putin. And I’m sure based on what we’ve heard about some of his other diplomacy he threatened a lot worse. Sorry to disturb your fantasies with facts. Go look it up.
That’s ridiculous. I knew you were brainwashed.
The Republican Party didn’t even have a platform in 2020, so you’re ignorance is showing and it’s not a good look.
Tell me what exactly do you hate so much about President Trump? Is he perfect? NO, but he loves this country & what he’s going through to get back in charge and fix things, I highly doubt you would be able to do for one day. I’m really interested in your answer, because whatever you come up with probably is brainwashing from MSNBC or CNN or any other media garbage & lies you have bought into. I didn’t vote for the president or vice president in 2016, because I thought the choices were so bad, I voted down ticket. I would crawl over broken glass to vote for him now.
More proof as to why we need Israel.
And this is why American Jews must vote Trump. I suspect the Democrats will cheat every way they can in the election, but we have to fight. This is a battle for civilization against chaos and a medieval homicidal ideology. Somehow the Democrats stand with the Barbarians. All Americans need to reject this Marxist takeover and deconstruction of the West. This is not a drill. Israel will not be the last ally betrayed.
You are definitely right about the “battle… against… a medieval homicidal ideology.” Islam is a cancer and *has* to be stamped out - everywhere - if they refuse to *honestly* and completely reform, and to get control of their own adherents who won’t get on board with that.
Islam needs a reformation like the Christians had. Jews had it too, just a thousand years before everybody else.
I agree with much that you say, although I'm not sure about the Marxist part. But that doesn't matter (these terms are slippery at best). My problem is that Trump states out loud that he wants to do away with democracy (the 2025 thing) and create a Christian nation (that's just a different sharia law - probably not as bad as a Muslim one) and I find that scary. IF it were a normal Republican I would definitely vote for that person.
As soon as Biden said back in October that his administration’s support for Israel was rock solid and unwavering I could see this day coming. Biden has no moral compass, and nothing he says can be believed. He has supported Iran out of fear, abandoned Afghanistan out of fear, and will abandon Taiwan out of fear. It is a terrible time to be an American because most of us whole heartedly support Israel and are appalled at this decision. You are correct - Israel cannot rely on American unreservedly, now and in the future. It will get better with Biden gone, but it will still be a risk. God bless Israel and may you conquer your enemies and live in peace. For what little it is worth, you have my support.
It’s not fear. It’s Obama.
I can't remember who said it, but it was said, Biden has been right on foreign policy zero times.
The only thing Biden had done right in his presidency was supporting Israel, and now he has blown that. Once again he has proven to be a disappointment.
Biden was never a real supporter of Israel. If you look at his history, that and supporting segregation, and friends with KKK Congressman.
I am a Jew from back East originally. I have a cousin back East who actually has such a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome that he thinks anything Biden does is okay!
I couldn't even imagine how any Jew could agree with What Biden is doing and still vote for that bastard.
The real problem is Biden is not in charge and that Muslim Obama is making all the policy decisions behind the scenes.
We have a lot of Muslims in the government, thanks to Obama
Biden just appointed Maher Bitar as his Special Counsel. Take a look at his CV and the appointment looks even more despicable, hungry for votes in Dearborn. Biden has sold his soul to Satan.
I can't imagine the Muslims of Michigan voting for Trump. They just won't vote at all most likely. And Biden did make inroads with the auto workers there, so . . . will be interesting to see how Michigan goes.
They may sit at home or vote for any of the others who will be running. Not all auto workers are thrilled with Biden. Whatever happens Biden's Dearborn Effect will not work.
He is truly a horror - and a Georgetown alum. My alma mater. I couldn’t be more appalled and ashamed.
Then again, the school has been taking money for its Arab studies program from Saudi Arabia for decades, and now also has a campus in Qatar, so I suppose I really shouldn’t be so surprised that it has produced this nightmare.
Honestly I think that's a ridiculous conspiracy theory. But who knows. I read somewhere that this goes back to the Clintons. As always, the U.S. plays both sides of all situations. Lately, however, it's definitely more overtly anti-Israel. I'm not disagreeing with that and I will not vote for Biden, although I would have before all of this.
*Please* look at the big picture and the effect that Trump would have on *our* country, democracy, and civil rights, as well as the rest of the world before deciding to vote for him just because of his support of Israel.
If he gets back in power, our democracy will be finished, and our allies other than Israel are very likely to abandon us.
He would stop aid to Ukraine, which would let his buddy Putin overrun the country - and land on Europe’s doorstep. Before you know it, he’d be marching into Paris.
I would never vote for Trump. It’s just that when I breathe my last I want to know I did not vote for Biden. I live in Florida so it won’t matter. If my vote did matter I would probably vote for Biden. Definitely voting Dem down ballot
Psalm 118:8-9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.
well let me say something
Biden do what ever Obama tells him to do
if Biden was elected it is because Obama is still behind
he pulls the strings.
iI am not a polititian I am not the most educated personne in politics
but this is what it was always in mind
but now with what's is going on , it is not Biden talking,
it is Obama who gave all that tax poor working people money to Iran.
Surely you mean that he has turned it into a *partisan* issue?
Good catch. Thank you. Will amend.
I have always valued intelligent people ... when a plane is being flown, you want the pilot to be very smart, when surgery is being performed, you want that Dr. to be smart, etc. etc. I am not comfortable trusting the safety, security and future to Donald Trump. I have watched the headlines (and tv) ... even the lack of moral compass doesn't disturb me as much as his lack of political acumen, history, inability to judge character. In short, he is not presidential material. This election is far more than a Presidential election: I wish I had the answers .. I only have questions and the answers I hear unhinge me (don't think much of Biden either). We are in deep sh-t !!!
It’s part of this “yes, but” of those who are too weak to call it as it is. For example: YES the crimes Hamas committed on 7 October were terrible, BUT the Palestinians have been suffering for years.”
It’s also part of trying to be all things to all people (those eligible to vote) with increasing numbers of Muslims in the US electorate. You end up pleasing nobody.
But the idea that there are many far-left loonies in the Democrat Party is risible. Seems like the legacy of McCarthy … to outsiders, there is no leftist party in the US. There’s the right-wing party (goes further right than conservative) and the centrist party which has accommodates old-fashioned conservatives (wet conservatives we call them, centrists, the mildly left, and a small number of leftists).
I don’t believe that it’s as simple as stereotyping Israel supporters and detractors into political parties, especially as the right continues with its anti-Semitic agenda, as as the left does.
We simply have lost support across the spectrum. Decades of careful strategic anti-Israel propaganda (which is another way of saying anti-Jewish, these people don’t care for distinctions), enabled by billions of $$$ given to those institutions, politicians, and high-profile people (like the Kushner-Trumps) hasn’t been for nothing. Saudi Arabia is laughing: destabilising western democracy and fighting its Shi-ite enemies. Iran is laughing as its Sunni enemies destabilise western democracy.
Israel seems to be expendable to everyone. We shouldn’t be surprised. The Allies knew about the Holocaust and chose to do nothing at the time. Not to mention the powerful isolationist (and anti-Semitic) stance …
Self-reliant is the best for Israel!
The US under Biden will make it a lame duck.
Just get Trump into the White House and the world will be much safer and prosper at the end of the day!
Don't argue! OK?