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Michelle Ann Daniels's avatar

Great piece! "If “Palestine” ever became a state, it would not be a democracy — far from it. “Palestine” would violate virtually every democratic value, including two that Husseini and many others have made fortunes on: freedom of speech and freedom of the press." That is so incredibly true. Oh, the irony of the "progressive" movement protesting for a "free Palestine!" It would be comical if it weren't so sad. Is this Sam Husseini guy a writer of fantasy and fiction, perhaps?!

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

Perhaps. Haha.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

For years, after the founding of the state of Israel up until the Abraham Accords, the “Palestine“ issue was kept on the front burner because it distracted the populations of Arab countries from their own miserable plight. Everything was blamed on Israel. (and it was easy to blame things on Israel-four years, it had been a Muslim cultural habit to blame the Jews when anything went bad.)

Then Iran came along and, many Arab countries realized what their real problem was. Hence, the alliance with Israel.

Now, of course we have this nonsense of settler colonialism. The greatest settler colonial project in history is United States of America and it has been wildly successful economically and technologically. It has attracted many immigrants from third world countries recently. Truth be told , for the sake, of accuracy, all these Third World immigrants are settler colonial themselves.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

But – ironically – native Americans see Israel as a great success.

The Palestinians had many chances to get their own homeland, but they were so focused on getting rid of Israel date declined every opportunity. I will remind you, but not quote to you, the definition of insanity.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

This will be my last response to you. Whenever the Palestinians were offered any land towards a state, including 95% of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, they always demanded more. When they didn’t get it, they launched terror attacks on the Jewish population of Israel. That’s because their goal, as they have always stated, especially among themselves, but in addition, to anybody who’s willing to listen, is not a two state solution, but to get rid of Israel.

The biggest vote-getter for the right wing in Israel has always been the Palestinian terrorists, including Arafat.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

Now I am forced not to keep my word, just like an Arab negotiator.

Assassination of Rabin was an awful thing, and it should have meant the death note for the right wing Israel. Instead, because of all the Arab terrorist attacks that happened after it, Benjamin Netanyahu was elected Prime Minister.

Barak add to walk out of Taba

because he had lost his mandate in the recent election that had elected Ariel Sharon. Those negotiations were taking place during the time of the onset of the second intifada . It had no chance of succeeding.

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Although there are still grave dangers from many directions, Hamas is getting wiped out. As this happens more truth has come to light about the nature of the conflict, the savagery of Hamas, the cowardice of its leadership, the cowardice of the Iranians, the complicity of the UN and other organizations with terrorism, the double dealing of the Biden Administration ( now in some political disarray given the recent palace coup(, the connection of the Islamists to the radical Left in the West. Simultaneously we see the bravery, successes, and ingenuity of the Israeli military, and the perseverance of the Israeli people in the face of relentless attacks. Despite the media’s best efforts, people aren’t buying into the lies of the Islamists. Terror attacks in Europe are also making clear for the thousandth time who we are dealing with. On top of that, the modern attention span is short and momentum is lost over time for even the most inflammatory (and inhumane) causes. Israel needs to keep beating the bad guys. The world will move on, in spite of the Leftists and the Islamists. Nothing succeeds like success. Underneath all the noise, Israel is surviving and winning.

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Viktor Khandourine's avatar

I have a big problem communicating with some British and American users. They know history only from "alternative sources", fashionable progressive theories that view history from the point of view of a modern progressive intellectual who moved from the university bench to the library hall preparing countless doctorates, and then moved to the office to write his vision of history.

The same with sociology, anthropology and psychology. Thousands of theories in the heads of mega-educated people have displaced the elementary concepts of good - evil, crime - punishment, cause - effect, guilt - repentance.

When I try to explain to them that in their imaginary world Israel is not at all what it is in reality, they cannot abandon the template and give me quotes from anti-scientific (in my time it was anti-scientific), controversial, populist and even neo-Nazi works, and demand from me quotes that refute this.

I have no quotes for them. I have a real world with facts that I show them and that does not correspond at all to their idea. I am not going to write hundreds of essays that refute thousands of essays written by lying populists, it is unproductive and pointless. I want them to see reality, learn (or remember) to think critically and determine for themselves where is the truth and where is a lie, where is justice and where is lawlessness and in what world they want to live, in the real one, for which I fight daily or in the imaginary one, which is becoming uglier and trying to destroy the real one.

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Viktor Khandourine's avatar

Thank you for your amazing lecture on what truth is, what reality looks like, and how to understand other people's points of view.

And I didn't see any arrogance in the fact that you presented it to me as the highest truth, which I didn't know.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

Andrea , I am afraid you are a “my truth must be heard” kind of person. You automatically not only dismiss the conservative viewpoint because it is conservative; but you are the type of person who does not let facts get in the way of your truth.

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Viktor Khandourine's avatar

Now, let's think about what happened.

I wrote a post in which I described my situation, explained my vision and expressed my opinion.

But you, in response to me, did not touch upon a single issue on this topic, did not find out the circumstances, what my motives were, how correctly I communicated with people and in general, did not express any opinion about my post.

But you quite clearly assumed that I do not know the elementary principles of communication inherent in educated people and decided to tell me this. And that's it.

Now you are offended by my post, which was built exclusively as a response to your post and based on your statements.

To which you responded the way you responded.

Note that this could have been avoided if you had kept silent, or at least communicated on the topic I raised.

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William “David" Pleasance's avatar

If war breaks out in Asia, because of Communist China, the sudden shift in focus better be used by Israel to achieve the remaining objectives quickly. We … the West … are going to need an intact Jewish nation. (The Jewish nation is the best foil to use against Jewish progressivism - the former’s concern with survival will always trump the latter’s obsession with status.)

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William “David" Pleasance's avatar

Here, I’ll simplify. When the attention zombies move on to the next thing, Israel needs to apply maximum effort against Hamas. Hamas is either destroyed or surrenders.

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William “David" Pleasance's avatar

Be more curious. If you are, you’ll realize that being insulted is a waste of your time.

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William “David" Pleasance's avatar

The same thing I have against American progressives - they’re cryptic practitioners of cult Christianity, meaning they act out a perverse form of Christianity. They are their own gods.

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William “David" Pleasance's avatar

Ordinary and religious Israelis - I am vastly more likely to trust their judgments and intuitions. They are not mired in the temptation to replace God with their own will. Progressives appear to me to be intensely enmeshed in the pursuit of replacing God with themselves. If that’s you, you can break out of it by confessing you are not God and that there is a God (not you).

Everyone faces this problem, but it’s perhaps best described as a unique temptation for the kinds of people who become progressives.

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Susan Sullivan's avatar

Agreed! In some ways it reminds me of a wave of Psychological cases in the 90s. False memory syndrome. A truly dreadful thing when various children and young adolescents underwent Psycho therapy and accused their parents of unspeakable acts. Thankfully it has been debunked completely now. Young people today are still under the most enormous pressure from the most evil outside influence!

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Kip's avatar

Well said.

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LS Constantine Morningstar's avatar

Profoundly accurate! It's easy to point the finger than it is to do the INTERNAL work.

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Diane Steiner's avatar

Loved this essay. Sam Husseini is just a useful idiot in the world of Woke DEI. Perhaps he should read several books on the history of the Middle East. He might be surprised at the amount of colonizing the Arabs did. Then again, as you pointed out in how "research" would be done by Husseini, facts that don't fit in with his beliefs are shelved. This is the problem overall in the world of oppressors and oppressed. History is rewritten to make them feel good, but feeling good won't change the reality for them and deep inside, they know this.

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Diane Steiner's avatar

That was strictly for the comment. I would never call anyone that term face to face when trying to achieve a goal. Quite frankly, their invectives would mean nothing to me. I'm a listener by nature, but what's obvious to me, is that Israel listens and Hamas rejects and plays games. So perhaps it would be nice for Hamas to really listen for once. And I certainly don't agree that the Israelis are terrorists, quite the opposite.

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Diane Steiner's avatar

There's no moral equivalency, period. Check out the numbers.

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Diane Steiner's avatar

The morality? Really? Tell that to Hamas who gives numbers tit for tat. It's obvious who you cheer for, so my comments are complete. Have an awesome day!.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

You will also not achieve peace by trying to negotiate with useful idiots.

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Puck's avatar

"Beliefs operate in a similar way to facts, insofar as a belief generally requires some evidence at an individual level."

A more accurate definition of belief would be accepting a thing to be when there is no evidence that it is so and even in the face of evidence that it is not so."

Opinion on the other hand is based at least on some evidence. Five types of opinion include: personal, collective, informed, expert, and received. Informed and expert are the most reliable descriptions of phenomena they are commenting on, but even they have their limitations.

Several other things to consider in the context of individual, media, and state reactions to Israel because one or more of the following may be at work:

1. Psychological Defence Mechanisms:

A: Displacement: Transferring negative feelings from one thing or person to another. E.G. Accusing Israel for doing or feeling the same things one does or feels. E.G. Accusing Israel of committing genocide when one's own actions fulfills the very definition of that crime.

B: Projection: Attributing one’s own maladaptive inner impulses to someone else. E.G. blaming Israel for one's own inadequacies and shortcomings.

C: Denial: Dismissing external reality and instead focusing on internal explanations or fallacies and thereby avoiding the uncomfortable reality of a situation. E.G. The nakba. Accusing Israel of humiliating the Arabs trying to annhilate it in '48 by denying that was their sole intent.

2. Scapegoat: a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency. E.G. The llight bulb in my living room burnt out. It is Israel's fault.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

Terrific analysis! Thank you for sharing! Would you like to turn this into a guest essay for us? If so, please send me a private message here on Substack and we can discuss more in detail. If not, all good! :)

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Jenny Sadaka-Eitnier's avatar

“Institute for Public Accuracy”, made me laugh my ass off. It’s like the Department of Excellence. How ridiculous.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

Totally.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

If only Palestinian leadership both today and in the past sympathized with the Palestinians as much as you do.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

You're conflating two different, separate things.

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Joshua Hoffman's avatar

Let's make a deal. Israelis (like me) speak for ourselves. You don't speak for us. And remove yourself from our platform.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

I know which side will win. And it won’t be tragically.

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Rauvan M Averick's avatar

The term Nakba was coined by the Arab Christian nationalist Constantine Zureiq in 1948 to describe the catastrophe of seven Arab armies, trying to defeat a ragtag Jewish army in Israel and failing miserably. It has been since co-opted by the so-called Palestinian national movement to describe what happened to them after they left their lands in 1948 having been encouraged to do so by the leaders of the Arab armies and the Arab league. This is not the whole story of course. Arab Villages along the route from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem served as bases for marauders who attacked trucks trying to supply the Jews of Jerusalem. West Jerusalem Jews were starving and the only way to open the route for supplies was to displace the Arabs in the villages along that road. Do you think all air villages participated in that siege? Do you think it was ethnic cleansing? I encourage you to visit the town of Abu Ghosh, a thriving Arab suburb of Jerusalem, which exists because they did not participate in that siege. It had nothing to do with ethnic cleansing, it had to do with self-defense and preservation. By the way, the world did not call, humanitarian aids or a pause in the fighting to supply the starving Jews of West Jerusalem.

And what do you mean the Palestinians were not offered the same rights offered to others in the region? The UN mandate proposed the division of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. Of course they were offered the same right! However, they declined that right because, as, in the words of British foreign minister, Ernest Bevin, the priority of the Jews was to establish a Jewish state and the priority of the Arabs was to see that no Jewish state came into existence.

How can you write that the Arabs knew what was coming? That is, unfortunately, pure ignorance on your part. They thought that the Jews would be massacred, and then they could walk in scot free and take over the property of the eliminated Jews. Obviously, they had no idea of what was actually coming.

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