The level of hate towards the Jews is surpassed only by the high degree of stupidity of those now protesting something they do not even remotely understand.
While it is true the only thing dumber than a college professor is a college student, you have to realize these dumbshits are the ones who will be running companies, schools, governments.
For as intensely as the dumbest generation calls for the erasing of the Jewish people, the rest of us need to rid the world of these hateful morons.
Mr Oren, you write, ' It burns, rather, beneath mounds of Jewish ashes, an ember ready to reignite'. Well I have news for you. We are a group of Jewish activists who have monitored the Re-Formation of The Nazi Party from 2012 here in London where international Nazis from Europe and Germany gathered under the protection of Nazi elements in MI6. They in turn formed a new Alliance with Hamas, and Neo-Nazis in The Ukraine who started the War there in 2014 by the murder of up to 10000 Ethnic Russians in The Donbass.. All of this has been recorded, monitored and is fact. The Russian People and The Jewish People, (and most of the Planet in fact) now face the same enemy once more: Nazism and The Nazi Party which has re-formed. Our Full Reports of these facts are with Josh Hoffman who runs this site, as well as with The Jewish Agency, The ADL in America, and The CST here in London.
It's encouraging to see that people are awakening to the fact that we at war. And beginning to struggle with all that implies. How do we respond?
This is a huge step forward after the long decades of denial and confusion where we tried to convince ourselves that it must be something we did, and that we need to make amends. Needless to say, Palestinian propaganda did its best to encourage such beliefs. And Jewish naiveté and idealism, compounded with a deep aversion to conflict, served to immobilize the Jewish community. Those who sounded alarm bells were marginalized as "extremists" while Jewish community institutions ignored the growing peril and solicited contributions to help those "less fortunate than ourselves."
Peaceful coexistence was a noble goal, but it requires a dance partner who doesn't dream of a world where you no longer exist. Now that our enemies have taken off the gloves, we are able to see them for who they are. It's not too late, because we have not yet begun to fight. The Jewish community has intelligence, wealth, courage, and the support of all decent mankind. Now that we have been forced to recognize that our ideals cannot serve as a substitute for reality, the dynamic will change. We need only to remember that we are at war and that the ovens of Auschwitz are still warm.
Yes, this is the difficulty for those of us with Western values. We value peaceful coexistence, democracy, individualism, tolerance, etc. etc. BUT, we cannot be tolerant of those who are intolerant. So we have to fight like the Lion of Judea when it is called for, in order to preserve the values of peaceful coexistence / democracy / tolerance. It's a tall order but totally do-able.
There's really no need to feel guilty about the BUT. Initially and superficially, it feels like a betrayal of one's values to crush the intolerant goons. But once you get your mind around it, you realize that if you tolerate the intolerant in the name of "higher values," they eventually take over and you wind up with nothing. Western values need to include the right and the responsibility to defend the framework of civilization from the screaming hate brigades.
Still, I cannot vote for Donald Trump or his cohorts. They are not supporters of Western values either: I don't consider Christian nationalism a Western value -- it's just another form of Sharia law. And the 2025 project is quite clear about its goals. That is a conundrum.
I respect your honestly, but disagree with your conclusion. You don't need to like Trump's style or some of his positions, to recognize that America under Trump was doing pretty well. America under Biden is circling the drain and, if we have another four years of the radical Left in power, there will be nothing left of the world as we knew it.
I worry that you are right, Sam, but with Trump attacking Roe v. Wade, it's a clear indication that he will continue to eat away at our rights. I never thought RxW would -- could -- be changed, but when that went, my eyes were opened. Can we recover from this attack? What's next on his agenda? I'm fortunate (?) to be in an absolutely blue state, so my vote won't count either way, but for me to vote for Trump - despite everything - I don't know if I could live with myself. We are truly in an impossible situation. Going to be an even more stressful rest-of-year.
I would like to see first-trimester abortion be readily available throughout the US. Some conservatives feel the same way, but many others don't and for them this is a non-negotiable position. They are unable and/or unwilling to make any distinction between terminating a pregnancy and murdering a baby. And there is no way to move them an inch on this issue.
On the other hand, these same hard-core opponents of abortion are quite often true patriots who love America, want to see the border closed, want to keep violent criminals in jail, support Israel's struggle to survive, want America to be energy independent, don't want men in women's sports and showers and dressing rooms, etc. etc.
So, when I think in terms of compromising my stance on abortion for the benefit of seeing so many other evils finally stop, the choice becomes clear.
Also, let's be clear about where we are with abortion post Roe v Wade: the Supreme Court threw the decision back to the States. Red states will have moderate to severe restrictions on abortion. Blue states will have few or no restrictions on abortion. Worst case scenario, if you live in a red state, and your daughter decides she wants to abort her pregnancy, you drive or fly to the nearest blue state. Given how highly charged an issue this is, and how unwilling either side is to compromise, I think this is about as good a solution as anyone has been able to come up with.
I see your points Sam and Tina. In regard to abortions we have to remember how in those red states women are sometimes not getting the medical care they need -- coming close to death, or losing the ability to have children altogether, or losing vital organs -- because the doctors are terrified of being charged with murder when an abortion is required for the health of the mother. And there's been an exodus of OB/GYNs from those states, affecting everyone. Having said that, although I agree with your points re the border, prison, and men in women's spaces I still fear Trump's authoritarian tendencies. Truly.
Honest question: Could you help me understand what you mean by "Trump's authoritarian tendencies?" I see him more as a well-intentioned bumbler who has been misled repeatedly by people who seek to undermine him. Could you give me a couple examples of Trump's actions that you feel have been authoritarian?
I realize that we just might need to compromise abortion rights for support for Israel, but It's a dangerous path. Christian Nationalists don't want to stop at abortion. I think that many more rights are in danger if Trump gets elected. Not to mention a further disintegration of the separation of church and state, which I think is extremely important. I can see Christian Nationalists doing things like the Islamic Jihadists have done with regard to influencing youth, and putting the future of our democracy at risk. I hope I'm wrong, & maybe it's the paranoia brought on my this betrayal trauma (I'd never heard of it before but, wow, is it accurate), but right now, I'm worried about that side of the aisle as well. I feel like my head is in a vise.
Impossible for me to ever forget what has transpired and how it has been received by our "allies" ... this will figure into every decision I will make for however long ... never, ever, ever forget!
The situation is brilliantly summarized here. I never considered the question of what if they destroyed Israel. The emotional overload that continues unabated since 10/7 never allowed me to go that far. And now that you've mentioned it, I see why. You know in Star Wars, when Alderaan gets destroyed and the deaths of everyone on that planet smashes into Princess Leia? That. It's beyond contemplation.
As a martial artist, I don't think the shocking endgame posited here is too exaggerated. I think we need to get ready.
Self defense classes are an excellent first step. Consider some time of self defense weapons? I wish I had more. What would you suggest? I want to do more, but aside from supporting things like AIPAC, etc., and voting for pro-Israel candidates, I don't know what else.
I agree with what you say. The narrative is beyond twisted! The West has to front up to reality - we have to fight against this in any way we can. Muslims are trying to invade every part of Western society!
I expect the muslim world to oppose Israel, but the fact that western countries don't support Israel is unconscionable. The Middle East is a region of barbarism, dictatorships and terrorists which threatens the stability of the entire world. There is ONE country which is an outpost of civility, democracy and enlightenment western values, Israel. Yet this is the country demonized, threatened and boycotted by the so-called civilized world while the rest of those other barbaric nations in the region carry out atrocities which are at best ignored by the west and at worst enabled.
“The notion that this was a massacre of Jews is a fabricated narrative,” one of the participants in a recent Oakland, California, city council meeting declared. “Many of those killed on October 7th, including children, were killed by the IDF.”
Another attendee opined, “There have not been beheading of babies and rapings. Israel murdered their own people on October 7th.” And yet another, “To hear them complain about Hamas violence is like listening to a wife-beater complain when his wife finally stands up and fights back.”
Like whom? Plus, these are not Nazis that we are dealing with. This is a religion of over 1.5 billion. Let’s say conservatively 10% are pure jihadists, you are left with a huge number and problem. Next, almost every one else.
The Nazis never spoke for the white community like they claimed. The Reality is that Hitler murdered over 50 Million white folk during World War Two, including both civilians and soldiers. That is a lot of white people. The fact is that Nazism is a Death Cult, as is Islamism. One of the Nazis' specialities was their Specific Policy of 'Divide and Rule' (learned from The Roman Empire), that is to say, attempting to cause their enemies to fight amongst themselves. In the Middle East, this is the policy of encouraging Jews against Islam. So, I do not see Islam as the enemy, but I do see the danger of Radical Political Islam. Thus we see Islamophobia, (hatred of Islam) is a tool of The Far Right and The Nazis. This is why I say, the Enemy is the Nazis: Re-formed and State backed right here in Europe. Recent problems (all monitored by us here in London) include: German Nazis attempting to take over America using the Debt position of the US Economy and bogus claims as I have just shown that Nazis speak for 'all Whites'. The Reality is that there is no freedom for ordinary white people under Nazism, only murder and Tyranny.
Agree. Trump was not wrong when he said if you're Jewish you should be voting for him in this election. Start supporting colleges like Hillsdale and the new one Bari Weiss of the Free Press is starting.
On a different note I find it staggering there are people who'd rather support 'dementia' Joe who is I believe is a puppet to very dangerous characters just because Trump will target their right to kill babies.
I see your point but fail to comprehend how a former ambassador could have failed to see it coming?
Consider the data scientists from Israel who were excited to see that the information they gathered was valid on 9/11. Should they not have rather been filled with remorse? Should that not lead them to dissuade the finest veterans of the IDF from taking the vanguard in the war on drugs? How was it missed?
How did Israel stay the security course it followed even after the Benghazi incident? How was such a people lulled to sleep by the free money as if such a thing ever protected any of God’s chosen.
Nope. Not buying what you’re selling when you watched the oil brought to heat up the ovens.
Nice try but your attempt at playing nice guy fails epically.
The level of hate towards the Jews is surpassed only by the high degree of stupidity of those now protesting something they do not even remotely understand.
While it is true the only thing dumber than a college professor is a college student, you have to realize these dumbshits are the ones who will be running companies, schools, governments.
For as intensely as the dumbest generation calls for the erasing of the Jewish people, the rest of us need to rid the world of these hateful morons.
Exactly! Took the words right out of my mouth. I wish more people understood that.
Mr Oren, you write, ' It burns, rather, beneath mounds of Jewish ashes, an ember ready to reignite'. Well I have news for you. We are a group of Jewish activists who have monitored the Re-Formation of The Nazi Party from 2012 here in London where international Nazis from Europe and Germany gathered under the protection of Nazi elements in MI6. They in turn formed a new Alliance with Hamas, and Neo-Nazis in The Ukraine who started the War there in 2014 by the murder of up to 10000 Ethnic Russians in The Donbass.. All of this has been recorded, monitored and is fact. The Russian People and The Jewish People, (and most of the Planet in fact) now face the same enemy once more: Nazism and The Nazi Party which has re-formed. Our Full Reports of these facts are with Josh Hoffman who runs this site, as well as with The Jewish Agency, The ADL in America, and The CST here in London.
Great article. Very unsettling.
It's encouraging to see that people are awakening to the fact that we at war. And beginning to struggle with all that implies. How do we respond?
This is a huge step forward after the long decades of denial and confusion where we tried to convince ourselves that it must be something we did, and that we need to make amends. Needless to say, Palestinian propaganda did its best to encourage such beliefs. And Jewish naiveté and idealism, compounded with a deep aversion to conflict, served to immobilize the Jewish community. Those who sounded alarm bells were marginalized as "extremists" while Jewish community institutions ignored the growing peril and solicited contributions to help those "less fortunate than ourselves."
Peaceful coexistence was a noble goal, but it requires a dance partner who doesn't dream of a world where you no longer exist. Now that our enemies have taken off the gloves, we are able to see them for who they are. It's not too late, because we have not yet begun to fight. The Jewish community has intelligence, wealth, courage, and the support of all decent mankind. Now that we have been forced to recognize that our ideals cannot serve as a substitute for reality, the dynamic will change. We need only to remember that we are at war and that the ovens of Auschwitz are still warm.
Let the Lion of Judea roar.
Yes, this is the difficulty for those of us with Western values. We value peaceful coexistence, democracy, individualism, tolerance, etc. etc. BUT, we cannot be tolerant of those who are intolerant. So we have to fight like the Lion of Judea when it is called for, in order to preserve the values of peaceful coexistence / democracy / tolerance. It's a tall order but totally do-able.
There's really no need to feel guilty about the BUT. Initially and superficially, it feels like a betrayal of one's values to crush the intolerant goons. But once you get your mind around it, you realize that if you tolerate the intolerant in the name of "higher values," they eventually take over and you wind up with nothing. Western values need to include the right and the responsibility to defend the framework of civilization from the screaming hate brigades.
Still, I cannot vote for Donald Trump or his cohorts. They are not supporters of Western values either: I don't consider Christian nationalism a Western value -- it's just another form of Sharia law. And the 2025 project is quite clear about its goals. That is a conundrum.
I respect your honestly, but disagree with your conclusion. You don't need to like Trump's style or some of his positions, to recognize that America under Trump was doing pretty well. America under Biden is circling the drain and, if we have another four years of the radical Left in power, there will be nothing left of the world as we knew it.
I worry that you are right, Sam, but with Trump attacking Roe v. Wade, it's a clear indication that he will continue to eat away at our rights. I never thought RxW would -- could -- be changed, but when that went, my eyes were opened. Can we recover from this attack? What's next on his agenda? I'm fortunate (?) to be in an absolutely blue state, so my vote won't count either way, but for me to vote for Trump - despite everything - I don't know if I could live with myself. We are truly in an impossible situation. Going to be an even more stressful rest-of-year.
I would like to see first-trimester abortion be readily available throughout the US. Some conservatives feel the same way, but many others don't and for them this is a non-negotiable position. They are unable and/or unwilling to make any distinction between terminating a pregnancy and murdering a baby. And there is no way to move them an inch on this issue.
On the other hand, these same hard-core opponents of abortion are quite often true patriots who love America, want to see the border closed, want to keep violent criminals in jail, support Israel's struggle to survive, want America to be energy independent, don't want men in women's sports and showers and dressing rooms, etc. etc.
So, when I think in terms of compromising my stance on abortion for the benefit of seeing so many other evils finally stop, the choice becomes clear.
Also, let's be clear about where we are with abortion post Roe v Wade: the Supreme Court threw the decision back to the States. Red states will have moderate to severe restrictions on abortion. Blue states will have few or no restrictions on abortion. Worst case scenario, if you live in a red state, and your daughter decides she wants to abort her pregnancy, you drive or fly to the nearest blue state. Given how highly charged an issue this is, and how unwilling either side is to compromise, I think this is about as good a solution as anyone has been able to come up with.
I see your points Sam and Tina. In regard to abortions we have to remember how in those red states women are sometimes not getting the medical care they need -- coming close to death, or losing the ability to have children altogether, or losing vital organs -- because the doctors are terrified of being charged with murder when an abortion is required for the health of the mother. And there's been an exodus of OB/GYNs from those states, affecting everyone. Having said that, although I agree with your points re the border, prison, and men in women's spaces I still fear Trump's authoritarian tendencies. Truly.
Honest question: Could you help me understand what you mean by "Trump's authoritarian tendencies?" I see him more as a well-intentioned bumbler who has been misled repeatedly by people who seek to undermine him. Could you give me a couple examples of Trump's actions that you feel have been authoritarian?
I realize that we just might need to compromise abortion rights for support for Israel, but It's a dangerous path. Christian Nationalists don't want to stop at abortion. I think that many more rights are in danger if Trump gets elected. Not to mention a further disintegration of the separation of church and state, which I think is extremely important. I can see Christian Nationalists doing things like the Islamic Jihadists have done with regard to influencing youth, and putting the future of our democracy at risk. I hope I'm wrong, & maybe it's the paranoia brought on my this betrayal trauma (I'd never heard of it before but, wow, is it accurate), but right now, I'm worried about that side of the aisle as well. I feel like my head is in a vise.
I respect her honesty too.
But all I see is a lefty with a tinfoil hat on.
My views on abortion are simple, taking a life for lifestyle choices is wrong except in the circumstance where the mother's life is in danger.
R v W was enacted because a single woman was pregnant.
She came out later as a prolife activist.
I believe her daughter is also a prolife activist.
Impossible for me to ever forget what has transpired and how it has been received by our "allies" ... this will figure into every decision I will make for however long ... never, ever, ever forget!
That's exactly how I feel! Every decision. Oct. 7 changed me.
The situation is brilliantly summarized here. I never considered the question of what if they destroyed Israel. The emotional overload that continues unabated since 10/7 never allowed me to go that far. And now that you've mentioned it, I see why. You know in Star Wars, when Alderaan gets destroyed and the deaths of everyone on that planet smashes into Princess Leia? That. It's beyond contemplation.
As a martial artist, I don't think the shocking endgame posited here is too exaggerated. I think we need to get ready.
Self defense classes are an excellent first step. Consider some time of self defense weapons? I wish I had more. What would you suggest? I want to do more, but aside from supporting things like AIPAC, etc., and voting for pro-Israel candidates, I don't know what else.
I agree with what you say. The narrative is beyond twisted! The West has to front up to reality - we have to fight against this in any way we can. Muslims are trying to invade every part of Western society!
I expect the muslim world to oppose Israel, but the fact that western countries don't support Israel is unconscionable. The Middle East is a region of barbarism, dictatorships and terrorists which threatens the stability of the entire world. There is ONE country which is an outpost of civility, democracy and enlightenment western values, Israel. Yet this is the country demonized, threatened and boycotted by the so-called civilized world while the rest of those other barbaric nations in the region carry out atrocities which are at best ignored by the west and at worst enabled.
The Oakland city council are themselves the subhuman monsters.
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“The notion that this was a massacre of Jews is a fabricated narrative,” one of the participants in a recent Oakland, California, city council meeting declared. “Many of those killed on October 7th, including children, were killed by the IDF.”
Another attendee opined, “There have not been beheading of babies and rapings. Israel murdered their own people on October 7th.” And yet another, “To hear them complain about Hamas violence is like listening to a wife-beater complain when his wife finally stands up and fights back.”
Oakland, a city so corrupt, ignorant and violent, it’s a disgrace to be called an American city…I wish it never existed
How should we prepare?
We Prepare by forming Alliances with ALL Non-Nazis.
Like whom? Plus, these are not Nazis that we are dealing with. This is a religion of over 1.5 billion. Let’s say conservatively 10% are pure jihadists, you are left with a huge number and problem. Next, almost every one else.
The Nazis never spoke for the white community like they claimed. The Reality is that Hitler murdered over 50 Million white folk during World War Two, including both civilians and soldiers. That is a lot of white people. The fact is that Nazism is a Death Cult, as is Islamism. One of the Nazis' specialities was their Specific Policy of 'Divide and Rule' (learned from The Roman Empire), that is to say, attempting to cause their enemies to fight amongst themselves. In the Middle East, this is the policy of encouraging Jews against Islam. So, I do not see Islam as the enemy, but I do see the danger of Radical Political Islam. Thus we see Islamophobia, (hatred of Islam) is a tool of The Far Right and The Nazis. This is why I say, the Enemy is the Nazis: Re-formed and State backed right here in Europe. Recent problems (all monitored by us here in London) include: German Nazis attempting to take over America using the Debt position of the US Economy and bogus claims as I have just shown that Nazis speak for 'all Whites'. The Reality is that there is no freedom for ordinary white people under Nazism, only murder and Tyranny.
I politely disagree.
Agree. Trump was not wrong when he said if you're Jewish you should be voting for him in this election. Start supporting colleges like Hillsdale and the new one Bari Weiss of the Free Press is starting.
good question!
Well written article.
I wish I could write so well.
On a different note I find it staggering there are people who'd rather support 'dementia' Joe who is I believe is a puppet to very dangerous characters just because Trump will target their right to kill babies.
Priorities people!
I see your point but fail to comprehend how a former ambassador could have failed to see it coming?
Consider the data scientists from Israel who were excited to see that the information they gathered was valid on 9/11. Should they not have rather been filled with remorse? Should that not lead them to dissuade the finest veterans of the IDF from taking the vanguard in the war on drugs? How was it missed?
How did Israel stay the security course it followed even after the Benghazi incident? How was such a people lulled to sleep by the free money as if such a thing ever protected any of God’s chosen.
Nope. Not buying what you’re selling when you watched the oil brought to heat up the ovens.
Nice try but your attempt at playing nice guy fails epically.
Well done and bone-chilling.