You are absolutely correct. I've always believed this and it bothered me tremendously that Jews refused to listen to what our enemies said. They never hid it. Thanks for writing this.
A very worthwhile article and well presented, but like so many, it misses a key point that not enough people know about. Given that Toronto is the epicenter of this knowledge, we can not be unaware. So here goes.
Here’s the unvarnished truth. A Jewish homeland in what is today Israel, began without a bullet being fired, without violence and with the support of leading Arabs.
Before you have the white coats take me away, listen up!
After WW1, there were no Arab states, none, and no Jewish state. At San Remo, Italy, in April 1920, the Security Council of the Principal Allied Powers created Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq (Mesopotania). They also created a legal Jewish homeland under International Law, ratified in 1922 in the Mandate for Palestine. That Mandate is still in effect, though ignored and largely forgotten.
1948 was the creation of the State of Israel, but Jewish land was already a fact. Top Arab leaders of the time supported Jews owing what was then Palestine, in return for Jewish support of Arab ambitions.
Thus, there is no occupation, no colonialism, no theft of land - under International Law. San Remo was a turning point for the Jewish people. Chaim Weizmann said at the time, and I paraphrase, “this is the most important event in the history of the Jewish people since the exile (nearly 2000 years earlier).
Dr. Jacques Gauthier is the world leading expert on San Remo and who has soverignty over Jerusalem. He lives in Toronto. We should be the world leaders in getting this word out and changing the entire narrative. Israel knows about San Remo, but does nothing. I atteneded a 90th anniversary celebration of San Remo and we stood in the villa where the papers wwere signed in 1920. Danny Dannon, Israel’s ambassador to the UN was there that day. Recently I had the privilege of giving him a photo of those of us who posed for a picture. He was in the front row, I was in the back.
Our legal history in modern times started in 1920 and not 1948. That is a big deal when you realize all the troubles created around the inaccurate story of 1948 being the start of Jewish takeover. It’s just not true. Toronto, wake up, and let’s make this go global!
Barry, excellent article. You are absolutely correct in the historical facts and what needs to be done. It will be a long road. Would you consider bringing your deep insight to some projects started by CIJA? Let me know.
Jews have at least three viable means to claim ownership to the land. God gave it to us in the Old Testament and we have been there for at least 3500 years. But both are disputed (incorrectly) and neither of those arguments have changed many minds. San Remo cannot be disputed, nor the Mandate for Palestine. They are legal documents in international law. We should use them along with anything elsle that stakes our claim. No one has rejected San Remo, and there is no guarantee that it would be accepted, but we would be negligent not to try.
The actual term "Nakba" was coined in 1948 by the intellectual pan-Arab nationalist Constantin Zureiq in his book Ma'na al-Nakba - The Meaning of the Catastrophe. In it he ".....insists that the actual catastrophe was the Arab nations losing the war to the Jews." Refugees are barely mentioned in passing.
He also stated "The reason for the victory of the Zionists was that the roots of Zionism are grounded in modern Western life, while we for the most part we are still distant from this life and hostile to it. They live in the present and for the future, while we continue to dream the dreams of the past and to stupefy ourselves with its fading glory".
Zureiq later became president of the American University in Beirut.
And that is exactly what Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey intends! Why are NATO putting up with him? Once Israel has defeated HAMAS and retaken Gaza, they should deal with Turkey - as a warning to the Iranian regime, et al.
Some of you have just discovered this. Others of us have been aware of these facts for a quarter of a century because we observed reality as it was happening. Oslo was the most catastrophic error in the history of Israel. It created a fact on the ground that the world accepted but that can never lead to anything but absolute disaster for all. Israel is stll paying for that mistake to this day.
Israel should just put the Palestinians out if their misery by eliminating Palestine altogether. Finis off Hamas, execute their leaders and banish the Gazans to another Arab country. Then do the same thing in the West Bank. Then annex both to a greater Israel. Tell the rest of the world to fuck off.
The Jews are still afraid to assert their right to exist. They allow the Muslim terrorists to shriek loudly and they speak softly. Given the stupidity of most people today that just doesn’t work.
Thank you for this. I am sharing it with select liberals I know in the hope it can break through their delusions about so-called "Palestine". In the meantime, I will support Israel's right to exist and its right to defend itself.
Great points, Adam! Centuries of Jewish dhimmitude conditioned Arabs to believe they would enjoy superiority and power over Jews forever. Then Israel was born, Arabs lost war after war against the tiny Jewish state, and Arab/Muslim pride was bruised in a way they never dreamed possible. Instead of learning the lesson and leaving Jews alone, they double down on each mistake, and pursue more war. They proclaim, "Inshallah, Israel will be destroyed," but ignore repeated demonstrations of what Allah's will really is. It's mind boggling, but even more mind boggling that many Jews still believe in a 2-state solution.
Thank you so much for your brilliant essay.....Yes, we had ENOUGH more than ENOUGH....and after October 7th barbaric attack, we realized the magnitude of the hatred ......God bless and protect Israel, the IDF and our people al over the world.....Am Israel Chai....
It's time to stop this talk. It's getting us nowhere but hated, the world over.
Enough already.
We won't get our hostages back unless we negotiate something.
Everyone knows the other is lying. So what? The world sees us starving and bombing the hell out of Gaza! For what? Security? Everyone knows we are lying. We look like bullies. Our enemies win every day we continue with his madness. End it already.
How can we come back from this? We are seen as madmen.
Enough already.
Trump has shifted his allegiance to the Arabs who understand perfectly well what Trump wants. And Trump falls for it as he and his negotiator know no history and can easily be seduced.
We need America for the Iron dome, and for Israel's future. Think of the future. It's time to let Israel go back to what she does best.
We won’t get our hostages back, period. It breaks my heart to say it but it’s true. Assuming that they might return lets the animals continue to play us as they have since this horrible episode began. The monsters even taunt us with return of their bodies. THEIR BODIES!!! Why does no one speak of this horror?!
We have to utterly devastate the fake ‘palestinians’. They have to have any and every shred of hope of ever killing Jews again removed. Permanently. And you all know I’m absolutely correct about this.
I am as Am Yisrael Chai as one gets, and you just opened my eyes to a whole new perspective. I could not have heard or accepted this from the ‘other side’ but you are quite correct, we need to think to the future. Thank you Sally.
Anthony, the rich Arabs have enough money now, and have bought great chunks of the West to secure their future post their oil exploitation.
They have no risk of being anything but richer than they are now.
Not only have they bought our real estate, but through their financial manipulation of our tertiary educational institutions they have bought the minds of our youth.
The West is heading towards being an Islamic Caliphate unless remedial action is taken very soon.
Islamists proudly tell us their intentions, we have just been too stupid to listen to them.
Perhaps it is time to pay attention, as waiting for their money to run out is futile.
The problem is that people are so ideologically captured that they can’t see the truth right in front of their noses. Or they see it (Muslim influx/violence/conquering) but they just can’t make sense of it for what it is. Just had a convo like this. Sudan, Nigeria, the Congo? Islamist genocides that were “bought by white ppl.” So Muslims killing ppl en masse because of who they are (genocide)-must not be their fault because they don’t think brown ppl can ever be at fault for anything. It is so idiotic but it seems practically impossible to reason with ppl once that mind virus hits. They appear to be willing to self-immolate to avoid facing the truth.
The only peace the Arabs ever wanted was the Land of Israel Judenrein and desolate
You are absolutely correct. I've always believed this and it bothered me tremendously that Jews refused to listen to what our enemies said. They never hid it. Thanks for writing this.
A very worthwhile article and well presented, but like so many, it misses a key point that not enough people know about. Given that Toronto is the epicenter of this knowledge, we can not be unaware. So here goes.
Here’s the unvarnished truth. A Jewish homeland in what is today Israel, began without a bullet being fired, without violence and with the support of leading Arabs.
Before you have the white coats take me away, listen up!
After WW1, there were no Arab states, none, and no Jewish state. At San Remo, Italy, in April 1920, the Security Council of the Principal Allied Powers created Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq (Mesopotania). They also created a legal Jewish homeland under International Law, ratified in 1922 in the Mandate for Palestine. That Mandate is still in effect, though ignored and largely forgotten.
1948 was the creation of the State of Israel, but Jewish land was already a fact. Top Arab leaders of the time supported Jews owing what was then Palestine, in return for Jewish support of Arab ambitions.
Thus, there is no occupation, no colonialism, no theft of land - under International Law. San Remo was a turning point for the Jewish people. Chaim Weizmann said at the time, and I paraphrase, “this is the most important event in the history of the Jewish people since the exile (nearly 2000 years earlier).
Dr. Jacques Gauthier is the world leading expert on San Remo and who has soverignty over Jerusalem. He lives in Toronto. We should be the world leaders in getting this word out and changing the entire narrative. Israel knows about San Remo, but does nothing. I atteneded a 90th anniversary celebration of San Remo and we stood in the villa where the papers wwere signed in 1920. Danny Dannon, Israel’s ambassador to the UN was there that day. Recently I had the privilege of giving him a photo of those of us who posed for a picture. He was in the front row, I was in the back.
Our legal history in modern times started in 1920 and not 1948. That is a big deal when you realize all the troubles created around the inaccurate story of 1948 being the start of Jewish takeover. It’s just not true. Toronto, wake up, and let’s make this go global!
Barry, excellent article. You are absolutely correct in the historical facts and what needs to be done. It will be a long road. Would you consider bringing your deep insight to some projects started by CIJA? Let me know.
Michael Cohen
Of course, but Dr. Gauthier is the real expert. I am happy to help in any way I can. I can be reached at barrylubotta@mac.com
You should probablytake your email address off of this public board.
So are you saying it took 28 years for Israel to be back in charge of the land of their ancestors, going back to King David?
Jews have at least three viable means to claim ownership to the land. God gave it to us in the Old Testament and we have been there for at least 3500 years. But both are disputed (incorrectly) and neither of those arguments have changed many minds. San Remo cannot be disputed, nor the Mandate for Palestine. They are legal documents in international law. We should use them along with anything elsle that stakes our claim. No one has rejected San Remo, and there is no guarantee that it would be accepted, but we would be negligent not to try.
But why wasn't Israel formed after San Remo, along with the other Arab countries?
The actual term "Nakba" was coined in 1948 by the intellectual pan-Arab nationalist Constantin Zureiq in his book Ma'na al-Nakba - The Meaning of the Catastrophe. In it he ".....insists that the actual catastrophe was the Arab nations losing the war to the Jews." Refugees are barely mentioned in passing.
He also stated "The reason for the victory of the Zionists was that the roots of Zionism are grounded in modern Western life, while we for the most part we are still distant from this life and hostile to it. They live in the present and for the future, while we continue to dream the dreams of the past and to stupefy ourselves with its fading glory".
Zureiq later became president of the American University in Beirut.
WE CAN MAKE THIS MUCH SHORTER. THERE IS NO NAKBA. THERE IS THE FAILURE OF ARABS TO GET BACK THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND TO TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD.
And that is exactly what Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey intends! Why are NATO putting up with him? Once Israel has defeated HAMAS and retaken Gaza, they should deal with Turkey - as a warning to the Iranian regime, et al.
I'm completely out of sympathy for Gazans and beyond tired of their whining about their self-inflicted "nakba" scam.
Some of you have just discovered this. Others of us have been aware of these facts for a quarter of a century because we observed reality as it was happening. Oslo was the most catastrophic error in the history of Israel. It created a fact on the ground that the world accepted but that can never lead to anything but absolute disaster for all. Israel is stll paying for that mistake to this day.
Israel should just put the Palestinians out if their misery by eliminating Palestine altogether. Finis off Hamas, execute their leaders and banish the Gazans to another Arab country. Then do the same thing in the West Bank. Then annex both to a greater Israel. Tell the rest of the world to fuck off.
The Jews are still afraid to assert their right to exist. They allow the Muslim terrorists to shriek loudly and they speak softly. Given the stupidity of most people today that just doesn’t work.
Thank you for this. I am sharing it with select liberals I know in the hope it can break through their delusions about so-called "Palestine". In the meantime, I will support Israel's right to exist and its right to defend itself.
May I also add, "Beware of gifts bearing Greeks." ;-)
Great points, Adam! Centuries of Jewish dhimmitude conditioned Arabs to believe they would enjoy superiority and power over Jews forever. Then Israel was born, Arabs lost war after war against the tiny Jewish state, and Arab/Muslim pride was bruised in a way they never dreamed possible. Instead of learning the lesson and leaving Jews alone, they double down on each mistake, and pursue more war. They proclaim, "Inshallah, Israel will be destroyed," but ignore repeated demonstrations of what Allah's will really is. It's mind boggling, but even more mind boggling that many Jews still believe in a 2-state solution.
Thank you so much for your brilliant essay.....Yes, we had ENOUGH more than ENOUGH....and after October 7th barbaric attack, we realized the magnitude of the hatred ......God bless and protect Israel, the IDF and our people al over the world.....Am Israel Chai....
It's time to stop this talk. It's getting us nowhere but hated, the world over.
Enough already.
We won't get our hostages back unless we negotiate something.
Everyone knows the other is lying. So what? The world sees us starving and bombing the hell out of Gaza! For what? Security? Everyone knows we are lying. We look like bullies. Our enemies win every day we continue with his madness. End it already.
How can we come back from this? We are seen as madmen.
Enough already.
Trump has shifted his allegiance to the Arabs who understand perfectly well what Trump wants. And Trump falls for it as he and his negotiator know no history and can easily be seduced.
We need America for the Iron dome, and for Israel's future. Think of the future. It's time to let Israel go back to what she does best.
We won’t get our hostages back, period. It breaks my heart to say it but it’s true. Assuming that they might return lets the animals continue to play us as they have since this horrible episode began. The monsters even taunt us with return of their bodies. THEIR BODIES!!! Why does no one speak of this horror?!
We have to utterly devastate the fake ‘palestinians’. They have to have any and every shred of hope of ever killing Jews again removed. Permanently. And you all know I’m absolutely correct about this.
I am as Am Yisrael Chai as one gets, and you just opened my eyes to a whole new perspective. I could not have heard or accepted this from the ‘other side’ but you are quite correct, we need to think to the future. Thank you Sally.
Thank you 😊
Israel now really knows what its neighbours are capable of and who its true allies are. They should act accordingly
Israel has a great future ahead of it. Its enemies do not, especially when the oil runs out or Western dependence on it declines
Anthony, the rich Arabs have enough money now, and have bought great chunks of the West to secure their future post their oil exploitation.
They have no risk of being anything but richer than they are now.
Not only have they bought our real estate, but through their financial manipulation of our tertiary educational institutions they have bought the minds of our youth.
The West is heading towards being an Islamic Caliphate unless remedial action is taken very soon.
Islamists proudly tell us their intentions, we have just been too stupid to listen to them.
Perhaps it is time to pay attention, as waiting for their money to run out is futile.
So much of London is owned and propped up by Arab money. And it feels terribly close to being a caliphate here
The problem is that people are so ideologically captured that they can’t see the truth right in front of their noses. Or they see it (Muslim influx/violence/conquering) but they just can’t make sense of it for what it is. Just had a convo like this. Sudan, Nigeria, the Congo? Islamist genocides that were “bought by white ppl.” So Muslims killing ppl en masse because of who they are (genocide)-must not be their fault because they don’t think brown ppl can ever be at fault for anything. It is so idiotic but it seems practically impossible to reason with ppl once that mind virus hits. They appear to be willing to self-immolate to avoid facing the truth.
Thanks Michael.