Moses urged his congregation and its descendants to choose life and good over death and evil, that they may live and prosper and dwell in the land. His teachings are as relevant as ever.
Mr. Schecter: Please send your essay to Bibi and any other Israel leader you believe would support what it says. In some of my comments on other essays here I have posited something similar: that to win this war decisively we must follow the Torah's guidance. So far our leaders have largely ignored it. To even enter negotiations for the giveaway of Israeli territory - as they did so many times - to agree to the terms of the Oslo accord - was capitulating to "Amalak", who disguised himself as our allies. The retention of Judea/Samaria and Gaza as Israeli territory is paramount. Those in Israel who oppose this (notably, the left) must be silenced by the sheer volume of Israeli voices who support it. We must also be prepared to defend ourselves from sanctions (maybe even violence) from our allies who still push for the delusional "2 state solution". No longer must Israel listen passively to the voices of Amalak in the United Nations and elsewhere. We must say "this is what is going to happen whether you support us or not". And trust in G-d to help us.
Thank you. I do not think we should use anything other than "So-Called 'palestinians' ". I'm not opposed to using as you did 'Arab Muslims' when appropriate. 'Amalek' needs defined if possible in current terms or the specific current peoples who comprise Amalek? Samaria and Judea need no other name referenced as those are their proper and historical regional names - Samaria, Judea, The Land of Israel - Aretz Yisrael.. If the 'p' word is removed or altered as suggested or in a better way then I will fwd this essay.
Not really except in the only valid context which is the Torah. For example chances are wherever you wrote from and likely wherever you were born and bred has more ancient names some of which are valid only in an historic context and not in relation to the modern state. Specifically that is not the case with the Land of Israel nor the Srate of Israel nor the Jewish People because those three are aligned in a harmonious honest transparent way.
Any Ideology which openly allies itself with Nazism, the ultimate ideology of 'Death and Evil' which killed 50 Million People in World War Two,( including 27 Million Russian people, to establish Lebensraum in The East for the Ethnic Germans), is bankrupt. But Hamas has done just this since 2013 right here in London. Islamism is the Terrorist branch of Islam, and is so indoctrinated with Antisemitism and Hate that it sees Nazism as its Ally. I can now tell you that they formally sought, and had backing from, very Highly placed Nazis here in Europe, and who met here in London to discuss getting both arms and succour in the International sphere. All this has been monitored for over ten years now by a group of us. This is how Hamas has now been defeated as an idea! It is in ACTIVE ALLIANCE with the worst Ideology of 'Death and Evil' of the lot: Nazism. And so, your exhortation to Jews to follow the path of Life is prescient: For indeed, people are fated to become like the Enemy they face. We become calloused and battle-hardened. But never like the Horror of The Nazis and the pitiless cruelty of Hitler, if we hold on to the Promise of Life.
So how do you propose to extirpate the murderous Jihadist ideology? By treating Palestinians as second class citizens, or worse? I agree that current Jihadis have to be killed, unless they have a miraculous change of heart (and some might pretend to, we have to be careful, and the kibbutzniks who were helping them were duped--the early kibbutzniks had a policy of not hiring outside manual labor, so as not to exploit--should have stuck to that). But future Jihadists will arise if the Palestinians are not prosperous and happy (this is the sense in which you can't extirpate an ideology, especially a murderous one, simply by killing people). To extirpate Jihadsm, we have to understand what will make them prosperous and happy. Perhaps other versions of Islam, like Sufism (or Bahai)? Perhaps NOT modernity for some of them, but agricultural and craft-based village life (but they will need land for that)?
understood that Armegeddon will likely ensue, especially having let things get so insane, bringing down the hammer at this point, with China Joe having executed China's plan to decimate our troops via Death Vax, the only way forward is basically alone.
With the entire Western World infiltrated with enemies of Jews and White Western Europeans, even if the West, tries to help it will almost certainly be weak and ineffectual.
And these same nations are filled with rabid Jew Haters who readily believe anything about Jews, as long as it is bad.
So, Israel against the world with no strong, loyal ally leaves "only" God.
Which is, of course, all we need, but what it means is Armegeddon.
Agnostic or Atheist, neither has been able to explain the essence of goodness and evil. Almighty יהוה is above both, and not against either. Those of us who choose to be servants of Good or Evil will be judged according to our actions, regardless of what religion I represent or what social system I support. There are Dictatorships where there are no choices, and the aftermath is not very progressive, not in recent history but more distantly. This Amalekian way has been instilled in Europeans for a long time, it is just waiting for the time when the barrel is full, and the anger is unleashed.
When these Amalekite-spirited Arabs, now so-called (Palestinians). Those who don't stay in the historical truth for a day are like a kindling thread in that barrel.
As an agnostic, I certainly respect your right to call on the Torah as the ultimate say on how Israel should deal with the Palestinians. You have your point of view and others have a right to a different point of view and it will be up to the Israeli government to make those decisions.
Stephen, what I find extremely irritating is this talk of how the Torah says to go and smite your enemies. Exactly who do you want to smite our enemies? Does that include the Haradim or is that only for the non-orthodox to risk their lives and fight Amalek? Why does Israel give 5 billion dollars to the Orthodox and they dont even want to join the army.
It is morally reprehensible and its all about politics and sounds to me like its very much against the Torah. Seems the Torah has no problem with "smiting" so why do the Haredim?
I dont want to sound disrespectful but I can tell you if my son or daughter were in the IDF risking their lives while the Haredim are on their asses rocking back and forth reading Torah passages ... the last place i wold take advice from is someone quoting the Torah. all the best, ahimsa, papa j
Come on guy! Don't be coy... I am quite certain that if you put on your thinking cap, you actually can puzzle out why Religious Scholars have been traditionally exempted.
Just use some of that Agnostic Respect and a bit of old fashioned logic.
Cmon John, know your history and you will know why they were exempted. It was after the Holocaust and we were afraid that we would lose our lose our talmudic teachers so Gurion gave an exemption for roughly 400 very learned Jews to be exempt. There is no fear presently and the number is not 400, it is 60,000 and the only reason for it is the political parties.
So buddy, the cap was put on before i made the comment. I suggest before you post something, you should do the same and at least know somewhat of what you are talking about.
Some of the attackers were Palestinian spies the kibbutzniks had befriended. As far as I'm concerned, those who blatantly ignored the Jew-hating ideology of the Gazans, thinking they could change it with kindness, were just plain arrogant and stupid.
First, it was stupid to give them work permits. No argument there. And I saw a video from someone involved with the kibbutz in question. Sorry but I didn't keep it. The woman identified herself; wasn't trying to hide behind some "meme".
You are right about a video. I streamed a video about Israeli peace activists living near Erez Crossing, who met with Palestinians to talk about how they could make things better. I remember the woman leading this group had a daughter who was concerned about her safety. I now wonder if that entire Israeli group was murdered.
It was not a question of failure, as you claim, they knew the time when Israel would be most vulnerable. or Do you claim that the beginning of the Yom Kippur war was the same as this rascally act. Israel has two major holidays that are wanted and wanted to be celebrated at home and with family. it's not a failure, soldiers also want to spend time with their family during the festive season. The mole had already infiltrated into Israel before 7 days.
You yourself prove by denying that it is not possible. Laying the blame solely on the shoulders of the IDF, just because some were out of their departments, if the supervision had been full-scale, it would have been known earlier what kind of attack it was. It's good that there are people who want peace, and people who oppose violence, they have chosen their part in non-violence, but that's why you can't be blue-eyed towards the tribesmen of Amalek's spirit. I am a pacifist at heart, but I know that Israel will not have peace without military action. Especially when it is inconsistent in its decisions. The Torah is a great book and consistent, and when a nation is consistent, then it is strong even at its weakest, you could say invincible. Isn't that what יהוה has promised.
Mr. Schecter: Please send your essay to Bibi and any other Israel leader you believe would support what it says. In some of my comments on other essays here I have posited something similar: that to win this war decisively we must follow the Torah's guidance. So far our leaders have largely ignored it. To even enter negotiations for the giveaway of Israeli territory - as they did so many times - to agree to the terms of the Oslo accord - was capitulating to "Amalak", who disguised himself as our allies. The retention of Judea/Samaria and Gaza as Israeli territory is paramount. Those in Israel who oppose this (notably, the left) must be silenced by the sheer volume of Israeli voices who support it. We must also be prepared to defend ourselves from sanctions (maybe even violence) from our allies who still push for the delusional "2 state solution". No longer must Israel listen passively to the voices of Amalak in the United Nations and elsewhere. We must say "this is what is going to happen whether you support us or not". And trust in G-d to help us.
Thank you. I do not think we should use anything other than "So-Called 'palestinians' ". I'm not opposed to using as you did 'Arab Muslims' when appropriate. 'Amalek' needs defined if possible in current terms or the specific current peoples who comprise Amalek? Samaria and Judea need no other name referenced as those are their proper and historical regional names - Samaria, Judea, The Land of Israel - Aretz Yisrael.. If the 'p' word is removed or altered as suggested or in a better way then I will fwd this essay.
It is ridiculous that the governments of the USA and Israel Kowtow to Fakestinian terms at all.
And every newsreport should begin with reference to Koran Sura 5,ehich states plainly that Israel belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them.
Like the land of Canaan.
Not really except in the only valid context which is the Torah. For example chances are wherever you wrote from and likely wherever you were born and bred has more ancient names some of which are valid only in an historic context and not in relation to the modern state. Specifically that is not the case with the Land of Israel nor the Srate of Israel nor the Jewish People because those three are aligned in a harmonious honest transparent way.
Amen! I couldn't agree more.
Any Ideology which openly allies itself with Nazism, the ultimate ideology of 'Death and Evil' which killed 50 Million People in World War Two,( including 27 Million Russian people, to establish Lebensraum in The East for the Ethnic Germans), is bankrupt. But Hamas has done just this since 2013 right here in London. Islamism is the Terrorist branch of Islam, and is so indoctrinated with Antisemitism and Hate that it sees Nazism as its Ally. I can now tell you that they formally sought, and had backing from, very Highly placed Nazis here in Europe, and who met here in London to discuss getting both arms and succour in the International sphere. All this has been monitored for over ten years now by a group of us. This is how Hamas has now been defeated as an idea! It is in ACTIVE ALLIANCE with the worst Ideology of 'Death and Evil' of the lot: Nazism. And so, your exhortation to Jews to follow the path of Life is prescient: For indeed, people are fated to become like the Enemy they face. We become calloused and battle-hardened. But never like the Horror of The Nazis and the pitiless cruelty of Hitler, if we hold on to the Promise of Life.
This a fantastic super short practical summary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbQCO2gM-UY
So how do you propose to extirpate the murderous Jihadist ideology? By treating Palestinians as second class citizens, or worse? I agree that current Jihadis have to be killed, unless they have a miraculous change of heart (and some might pretend to, we have to be careful, and the kibbutzniks who were helping them were duped--the early kibbutzniks had a policy of not hiring outside manual labor, so as not to exploit--should have stuck to that). But future Jihadists will arise if the Palestinians are not prosperous and happy (this is the sense in which you can't extirpate an ideology, especially a murderous one, simply by killing people). To extirpate Jihadsm, we have to understand what will make them prosperous and happy. Perhaps other versions of Islam, like Sufism (or Bahai)? Perhaps NOT modernity for some of them, but agricultural and craft-based village life (but they will need land for that)?
This surely needs to be said.
But just as surely, it must be
understood that Armegeddon will likely ensue, especially having let things get so insane, bringing down the hammer at this point, with China Joe having executed China's plan to decimate our troops via Death Vax, the only way forward is basically alone.
With the entire Western World infiltrated with enemies of Jews and White Western Europeans, even if the West, tries to help it will almost certainly be weak and ineffectual.
And these same nations are filled with rabid Jew Haters who readily believe anything about Jews, as long as it is bad.
So, Israel against the world with no strong, loyal ally leaves "only" God.
Which is, of course, all we need, but what it means is Armegeddon.
All true. “ … and with it modernity itself.” Powerful.
Agnostic or Atheist, neither has been able to explain the essence of goodness and evil. Almighty יהוה is above both, and not against either. Those of us who choose to be servants of Good or Evil will be judged according to our actions, regardless of what religion I represent or what social system I support. There are Dictatorships where there are no choices, and the aftermath is not very progressive, not in recent history but more distantly. This Amalekian way has been instilled in Europeans for a long time, it is just waiting for the time when the barrel is full, and the anger is unleashed.
When these Amalekite-spirited Arabs, now so-called (Palestinians). Those who don't stay in the historical truth for a day are like a kindling thread in that barrel.
As an agnostic, I certainly respect your right to call on the Torah as the ultimate say on how Israel should deal with the Palestinians. You have your point of view and others have a right to a different point of view and it will be up to the Israeli government to make those decisions.
Stephen, what I find extremely irritating is this talk of how the Torah says to go and smite your enemies. Exactly who do you want to smite our enemies? Does that include the Haradim or is that only for the non-orthodox to risk their lives and fight Amalek? Why does Israel give 5 billion dollars to the Orthodox and they dont even want to join the army.
It is morally reprehensible and its all about politics and sounds to me like its very much against the Torah. Seems the Torah has no problem with "smiting" so why do the Haredim?
I dont want to sound disrespectful but I can tell you if my son or daughter were in the IDF risking their lives while the Haredim are on their asses rocking back and forth reading Torah passages ... the last place i wold take advice from is someone quoting the Torah. all the best, ahimsa, papa j
Come on guy! Don't be coy... I am quite certain that if you put on your thinking cap, you actually can puzzle out why Religious Scholars have been traditionally exempted.
Just use some of that Agnostic Respect and a bit of old fashioned logic.
You'll figure it out...
Cmon John, know your history and you will know why they were exempted. It was after the Holocaust and we were afraid that we would lose our lose our talmudic teachers so Gurion gave an exemption for roughly 400 very learned Jews to be exempt. There is no fear presently and the number is not 400, it is 60,000 and the only reason for it is the political parties.
So buddy, the cap was put on before i made the comment. I suggest before you post something, you should do the same and at least know somewhat of what you are talking about.
Have a great day. papa j
An excellent recipe for endless future struggle.
The only solution possible...
Some of the attackers were Palestinian spies the kibbutzniks had befriended. As far as I'm concerned, those who blatantly ignored the Jew-hating ideology of the Gazans, thinking they could change it with kindness, were just plain arrogant and stupid.
First, it was stupid to give them work permits. No argument there. And I saw a video from someone involved with the kibbutz in question. Sorry but I didn't keep it. The woman identified herself; wasn't trying to hide behind some "meme".
You are right about a video. I streamed a video about Israeli peace activists living near Erez Crossing, who met with Palestinians to talk about how they could make things better. I remember the woman leading this group had a daughter who was concerned about her safety. I now wonder if that entire Israeli group was murdered.
No one has denied that. Amalek or Jeroboam, I personally don't like either.
I have no argument with that quote.
It was not a question of failure, as you claim, they knew the time when Israel would be most vulnerable. or Do you claim that the beginning of the Yom Kippur war was the same as this rascally act. Israel has two major holidays that are wanted and wanted to be celebrated at home and with family. it's not a failure, soldiers also want to spend time with their family during the festive season. The mole had already infiltrated into Israel before 7 days.
The reason was the Simchat Torah you just mentioned. Yom kippur. for the same reason as 1973. Then Israel is most vulnerable despite the IDF.
You yourself prove by denying that it is not possible. Laying the blame solely on the shoulders of the IDF, just because some were out of their departments, if the supervision had been full-scale, it would have been known earlier what kind of attack it was. It's good that there are people who want peace, and people who oppose violence, they have chosen their part in non-violence, but that's why you can't be blue-eyed towards the tribesmen of Amalek's spirit. I am a pacifist at heart, but I know that Israel will not have peace without military action. Especially when it is inconsistent in its decisions. The Torah is a great book and consistent, and when a nation is consistent, then it is strong even at its weakest, you could say invincible. Isn't that what יהוה has promised.