You don't go far back enough. Arabs have always been going in and out of the area, but starting in 1831, large numbers of Arabs began permanent relocation. For example, after Egypt’s conquest of Palestine in 1831, 6,000 Egyptian peasants moved to Palestine with their families. Thousands more moved in during the rest of the century, to the point that, by 1900 at least 85 - 90 % of the non-Beduin Muslim residents were immigrants or descendants of immigrants. The German Philip Baldensperger, observed in 1913 that “we find entire villages of Egyptians all along the plains of the Philistines, from the river of Egypt [i.e., the Nile]* to Jaffa, – descendants of those of 1831, and who continue unmixed.” Other ethnologists, seeking to study the native population, had many of the same complaints. During WWI and up until 1847, waves of Arab immigration continued unchecked.
Lebanon is an apartheid state against Palestinians, who are second-class citizens monstrously discriminated against by the Lebanese government. This, of course, is never mentioned by Western "pro-Palestinian" activists, whose only goals are to slander Jews and justify the murder of Jews.
There are three strange things about the Disputed Territories that the Palestinian Arabs claim as their ancestral homeland - all of which are well known.
First, is the name itself. To my knowledge, every national group but one has a name in its own language for its historical homeland. That one is the Palestinians who use a foreign loan word that refers to a no longer extant people. Worse, the homeland of the Philistines hugged the coast and they never controlled the highlands, let alone Jerusalem.
Second, during the 19 years of Jordanian and Egyptian occupation, the 1964 PLO Charter expressly disavowed any sovereign rights to that territory in article 24.
Third, the Disputed Territories represent nothing other than lands seized as a result of an illegal war of aggression by the surrounding Arab states in 1948. Israel as the intended Jewish state succeeding to the Mandate lands certainly has the superior claim over the invaders (who were dispossessed in 1967). How it is that these lands can be awarded to the never sovereign Palestinians is always a strange “black box” in the argument? But to give the Disputed Territories to anyone but Israel seems to be to reward the temporary results of an illegal war of aggression and make them permanent.
None of this precludes a negotiated settlement, but the precondition must be a clear acknowledgment by the Palestinians of the history and rights of the Jewish people to a state of their own and give up their genocidal fantasies.
The anti Zionist Jews and the Arabs keep telling us how Muslim Arabs now called "the Palestinians" were the majority...overwhelming majority.....and various Germans and Poles and Russians were artificially imposed on them as colonial settlers. No serious investigation of how first the Arab invasion and then Ottoman occupation favored the close settlement of Muslims on this land. No serious investigation of the reasons and conditions that led to the dwindling Jewish community. No serious investigation for while a center of Jewish life around Safad and Tiberias was made miniscule by the beginning of the 20th century. No serious investigation of why Jews were relegated to the bottom of the pecking order in Muslim hegemonic Holy Land.
The Palestinian narrative uses Muslim standards of judgement...Islamophilic ways of conjuring their to account for their so called indigenousness, their dominatinon, their use of dhimmitude to diminish the Jews, their claims to be the rightful owners of a thoroughly Muslim and Arab land which in time will be liberated from its current white European occupation.
You are 100% right. Please study quran. The crazy poet muhamad who invented his cult following satanic revelations, started hating the Jews in Arabia because they didn’t accept his religious teachings, knowing better. They laughed him off as a foolish poet, and they said that he brought nothing new when he copied parts of Bible.
"Someone with half a stegosaurus’ brain can make a case for a Palestinian state without resorting to a single lie."
What case need be made when the Palestinian state already exists? Already, more than 60% of its population identify as Palestinian and its territory consists of 77% of the land legally designated multiple times in mutliple international institutions as the Homeland of the Jews.
"when someone tells these lies, it is for the nefarious and dastardly purposes of delegitimizing Israel as a state and dehumanizing Jews."
Delegitimizing Israel and dehumanizing Jews is the kindest intention. The real goal stated explicitly in the charters of the terror groups ringing Israel is the complete obliteration of Israel and the Jews.
"the lie that Palestinians — who are Arabs — are indigenous to the area that today is the State of Israel and the Palestinian Territories."
Embedded in tis statement are two lies: 1. that "Palestinians" are indigenous to certain territories (Judea, Samaria, and Gaza), and 2. that these territories are Palestinian.
Who declared that these areas belong to Palestinians? By what authority do they have the right to give away land that is not now nor ever has been theirs to give away? As the article so correctly notes, "The carve-out of Transjordan gave about 78 percent of British Mandatory Palestine to the Arabs, with the remaining 22 percent to become a Jewish state. Jordan is a Palestinian Arab state." An inconvenient truth if ever there was one.
You pegged it when you said that in western civilization we don't know good from evil. Look at our government. If that's not personified evil, I've never seen it, and a disturbing amount of Americans are gleeful about it
You don't go far back enough. Arabs have always been going in and out of the area, but starting in 1831, large numbers of Arabs began permanent relocation. For example, after Egypt’s conquest of Palestine in 1831, 6,000 Egyptian peasants moved to Palestine with their families. Thousands more moved in during the rest of the century, to the point that, by 1900 at least 85 - 90 % of the non-Beduin Muslim residents were immigrants or descendants of immigrants. The German Philip Baldensperger, observed in 1913 that “we find entire villages of Egyptians all along the plains of the Philistines, from the river of Egypt [i.e., the Nile]* to Jaffa, – descendants of those of 1831, and who continue unmixed.” Other ethnologists, seeking to study the native population, had many of the same complaints. During WWI and up until 1847, waves of Arab immigration continued unchecked.
Lebanon is an apartheid state against Palestinians, who are second-class citizens monstrously discriminated against by the Lebanese government. This, of course, is never mentioned by Western "pro-Palestinian" activists, whose only goals are to slander Jews and justify the murder of Jews.
There are three strange things about the Disputed Territories that the Palestinian Arabs claim as their ancestral homeland - all of which are well known.
First, is the name itself. To my knowledge, every national group but one has a name in its own language for its historical homeland. That one is the Palestinians who use a foreign loan word that refers to a no longer extant people. Worse, the homeland of the Philistines hugged the coast and they never controlled the highlands, let alone Jerusalem.
Second, during the 19 years of Jordanian and Egyptian occupation, the 1964 PLO Charter expressly disavowed any sovereign rights to that territory in article 24.
Third, the Disputed Territories represent nothing other than lands seized as a result of an illegal war of aggression by the surrounding Arab states in 1948. Israel as the intended Jewish state succeeding to the Mandate lands certainly has the superior claim over the invaders (who were dispossessed in 1967). How it is that these lands can be awarded to the never sovereign Palestinians is always a strange “black box” in the argument? But to give the Disputed Territories to anyone but Israel seems to be to reward the temporary results of an illegal war of aggression and make them permanent.
None of this precludes a negotiated settlement, but the precondition must be a clear acknowledgment by the Palestinians of the history and rights of the Jewish people to a state of their own and give up their genocidal fantasies.
The anti Zionist Jews and the Arabs keep telling us how Muslim Arabs now called "the Palestinians" were the majority...overwhelming majority.....and various Germans and Poles and Russians were artificially imposed on them as colonial settlers. No serious investigation of how first the Arab invasion and then Ottoman occupation favored the close settlement of Muslims on this land. No serious investigation of the reasons and conditions that led to the dwindling Jewish community. No serious investigation for while a center of Jewish life around Safad and Tiberias was made miniscule by the beginning of the 20th century. No serious investigation of why Jews were relegated to the bottom of the pecking order in Muslim hegemonic Holy Land.
The Palestinian narrative uses Muslim standards of judgement...Islamophilic ways of conjuring their to account for their so called indigenousness, their dominatinon, their use of dhimmitude to diminish the Jews, their claims to be the rightful owners of a thoroughly Muslim and Arab land which in time will be liberated from its current white European occupation.
You are 100% right. Please study quran. The crazy poet muhamad who invented his cult following satanic revelations, started hating the Jews in Arabia because they didn’t accept his religious teachings, knowing better. They laughed him off as a foolish poet, and they said that he brought nothing new when he copied parts of Bible.
Q (to Bart Simpson): Why do you lie?
Bart: Because it’s the easiest way to get what I want.
Would someone, please, explain to me what the real reason(s) were for Israel pulling out of Gaza unilaterally in 2005? That would interest me.
"Someone with half a stegosaurus’ brain can make a case for a Palestinian state without resorting to a single lie."
What case need be made when the Palestinian state already exists? Already, more than 60% of its population identify as Palestinian and its territory consists of 77% of the land legally designated multiple times in mutliple international institutions as the Homeland of the Jews.
"when someone tells these lies, it is for the nefarious and dastardly purposes of delegitimizing Israel as a state and dehumanizing Jews."
Delegitimizing Israel and dehumanizing Jews is the kindest intention. The real goal stated explicitly in the charters of the terror groups ringing Israel is the complete obliteration of Israel and the Jews.
"the lie that Palestinians — who are Arabs — are indigenous to the area that today is the State of Israel and the Palestinian Territories."
Embedded in tis statement are two lies: 1. that "Palestinians" are indigenous to certain territories (Judea, Samaria, and Gaza), and 2. that these territories are Palestinian.
Who declared that these areas belong to Palestinians? By what authority do they have the right to give away land that is not now nor ever has been theirs to give away? As the article so correctly notes, "The carve-out of Transjordan gave about 78 percent of British Mandatory Palestine to the Arabs, with the remaining 22 percent to become a Jewish state. Jordan is a Palestinian Arab state." An inconvenient truth if ever there was one.
You pegged it when you said that in western civilization we don't know good from evil. Look at our government. If that's not personified evil, I've never seen it, and a disturbing amount of Americans are gleeful about it