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Mary F Holley's avatar

If this conflict were treated in an unbiased manner, it would not make the news at all. Sudan has higher civilian casualties and much more starvation. Ukraine has greater geopolitical implications. Israel pounding on a terrorist cell right on its border is not geopolitically important, and there is no genocide or starvation. If it did not involve that ancient tribal people with its ancient tribal God, no one would even notice.

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Andy G's avatar
6dEdited

Sigh.

You clearly don’t understand at all.

The evil rich white male capitalist Christian (ok, ok, Jewish in this case) Israeli patriarchy is responsible for all evil in the world, and the poor oppressed BiPOC without-agency Palestinians are allowed to overcome their oppressors BY.ANY.MEANS.NECESSARY.

It is your claim of “unbiased manner” that is biased. The Palestinians have *SO* many more intersectionality points than the Israelis, and so Hamas is allowed to butcher, rape, take hostages, behead babies, post the barbarism on the Internet, openly call for genocide, etc…. and be supported by more than half of the young people in this country who vote for Democrats.

How is this not blindingly obvious?

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kamal's avatar

All other conflicts are mostly internal fights. The Genocide of Palestinian’s in Gaza and the West Bank, is funded and perpetrated by our taxpayers money and our weapons. We should know what’s being done in our name and we should stop it

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Margaret's avatar

And Yemen is a greater humanitarian crises. It's because the Palestinian sympathy campaign was already a pet cause and Israel was already demonized.

As a cradle Catholic, I get visuals of the mob releasing killer Barrabas and crucifying Yeshua. Metaphorically,

Yeshua is Israel, the innocent, the scapegoat.

I'm not an Evangelical also Canadian Catholics have a different culture than American Catholics, more Liberal.

But the crucifixion story repeats itself thoughout history, with many victims including non Jewish peoples like African Americans and Native People.

The story is not about Jews killing Christ, it's about the world killing innocence and embracing darkness.

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Marcus Aurelius's avatar

I’m a Catholic. You’re no Catholic. Your word salad is mental gymnastics to convince yourself that Israel is not as guilty as Barrabas in exterminating the Palestinians for 100 plus years. You’re truly deranged. Btw, the Saudis, with American weapons have caused the humanitarian crisis in Yemen. Unbelievably daft.

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Margaret's avatar

Well you are so sure of yourself you must be right. Your ad homonim retort is just so erudite I just have to melt like a puddle before your sterling facts. Lol

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Dan's avatar
6dEdited

‘Journalist’ has his picture, smiling in delight, taken with the Leadership of a Terrorist Organisation and then publishes the pictures. Enough said. You are a combatant, Dude. But as you say correctly in your post, neutral journalists are not targets. And nor are they in this conflict.

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Margaret's avatar

There is a mob mentality. Reactive virtue that disables critical thinking in the absence of a moral compass. I stand with Israel forever.

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Andy G's avatar

But it IS “critical” thinking.

It is full fledged critical theory oppressor-oppressed ideology as religion in action.

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Margaret's avatar

Oppression consists of multiple, intersecting layers. It is not a cheap blanket or a childish insult, which is how it's used against Israel.

Critical theory includes a body of literature not just politics not just economics.

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Andy G's avatar
6dEdited

I wasn’t suggesting it is correct.

I think it is mostly nonsense and *completely* immoral.

But I stand by the claim that the support for Hamas in the West comes overwhelmingly from miseducated people who believe this Critical Theory / DEI / woke / intersectionality oppressor-oppressed ideology.

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Margaret's avatar

Read Finkelstein and Pappé, both I think Marxists. They accuse Israel of colonial oppression, but imo they just misread, misapply and misinform.

What's bugs me the most is cultural appropriation of history by the Palestinian side, starting with the Hamas Covenant. That Palestinians are indigenous, For example, and annulling Holocaust history while claiming genocide.

Claiming Jesus was Palestine. That ancient Canaan was Palestine. It's everywhere.

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Margaret's avatar

Israel has more detailed Intel on him . He is BS artist.

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Margaret's avatar

Haven't seen much neutral journalism in the media or even in depth coverage. It's all sensationized war profiteering imo.

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CI Carlson's avatar

Targeting journalists is a war crime. Delete your propaganda account.

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Margaret's avatar

They are identified as Hamas agents.

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publius_x's avatar

By your intelligence, Joey Goebbels was a journalist.

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Andy G's avatar

Targeting terrorists posing as or doubling as journalists is not a war crime.

Despite your claims that it is.

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Marcus Aurelius's avatar

You’re a sick individual to think 1) that Hamas are the bad guys when Gazans have been living under an apartheid, surveillance state with barb wire and 20 foot walls. 2) Israel is by far the most racist “country” in the world that dehumanizes Palestinians 3) The IDF has documented the most heinous war crimes I’ve seen in my 53 years on this earth. Either you’re a racist, a Jew or devoid of human empathy.

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pierpling's avatar

you should restack yourself, so others can read your true staement. 👍👍

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pierpling's avatar

totally true !

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Margaret's avatar

Sure I look forward to the transcripts.

How they love to embrace evil these minions. Revolting.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

You are a barbaric, genocidal, racist, sick creature. The Jewish terror state doesn’t allow international journalists in Gaza, and you, like a donkey, claim all journalists in Gaza are fighters.

You want Palestinians to die in silence there, but since you don’t have balls to say it, you lie.

The world hates you, and I added you to the genocide database. We won’t forget any one of you.

Nazis are angels compared to you.

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CI Carlson's avatar

Your fanatical racism is disturbing.

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publius_x's avatar

OOOOH the R-word! I have another R-word that describes you. Retard.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

You are a barbaric, genocidal, racist, sick creature. The Jewish terror state doesn’t allow international journalists in Gaza, and you, like a donkey, claim all journalists in Gaza are fighters.

You want Palestinians to die in silence there, but since you don’t have balls to say it, you lie.

The world hates you, and I added you to the genocide database. We won’t forget any one of you.

Nazis are angels compared to you.

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Ben Dor A.'s avatar

IDF presented ample evidence that he is a terrorist and not a journalist.

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Marcus Aurelius's avatar

The IOF, like most Jews, lie from cradle to grave.

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George Shay's avatar

Al Jazeera is the Qataran propaganda arm of Iran and Hamas.

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pierpling's avatar

man, man, oh man….such idiotery !!

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George Shay's avatar

Don't be so self-deprecatory, Hamas bot.

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Noah Otte's avatar

👏👏👏 Thank you to the esteemed Andrew Fox for this wonderful article! Israel has every right to go after Gaza-based Al-Jazeera journalists who actively assist Hamas. They are civilian collaborators and should be treated as such. Mr. Fox provides great examples of civilians in past wars who helped the enemy so therefore they were legitimate military targets. Those who assisted in keeping the Nazi troop trains running on time and the Taliban in reporting American troop movements were mostly certainly actively assisting the enemy and therefore legitimate military targets. This is definitely the roll Gaza-based journalists play. They are on the take with Hamas and what they can and can’t report is greatly restricted.

Al-Jazeera is funded by the Kingdom of Qatar who has long been supportive of Hamas and given shelter to their leaders. They push anti-Israel propaganda not nonstop on their network and tell blatant lies. AJ+ does the exact same thing. It is Hamas propaganda without question. So Israel is perfectly justified in going after them. To be sure, journalists should be protected during wartime. But not when they are in cahoots with the enemy and active participants in the war and killing and maiming IDF soldiers. Mr. Fox breaks it all down here in a way that anyone even if their not a military expert could understand. I would like to close with a reading list for everyone to learn the true facts about Israel, the current war and Hamas:

• Son of Hamas: A Gripping Account of Terror, Betrayal, Political Intrigue, and Unthinkable Choices by Mosab Hassan Yousef

• Hamas: The Quest for Power by Beverly Milton-Edwards

• The Essential Guide to October 7th and Its Aftermath by Gil Troy

• Israel: A Concise History of a Nation Reborn by Daniel Gordis

• Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country in the World by Noa Tishby

• Gideon’s Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad by Gordon Thomas

• The October 7 War: The Battle for Security in Gaza by Seth J. Frantzman

• Beyond Proportionality: Israel’s Just War in Gaza by Thane Rosenbaum

• Israel and Civilization: The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West by Josh Hammer

• A History of Zionism: From the French Revolution to the Establishment of the State of Israel by Walter Laqueur

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pierpling's avatar

What a bunch of propaganda blablabla for that zionist crap !!

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Mike Rauch's avatar

but wait

if the IDF knows Qatar is transmitting money to Palestine...why wont they stop it?

Its not rocket science.

And...killing unarmed individuals is a war crime.

So, have fun at the Hague

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Andy G's avatar

“And...killing unarmed individuals is a war crime.”

Uh… no, it is not. This is just a false statement.

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Danielle Wolfson's avatar

And do just a little research on who these supposed journalists are. They are part of the war machine. This particular one has a long storied legacy on the Hamas payroll. I know it sounds crazy but the world is hypnotized by a disinformation campaign and we have been here before.

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Mike Rauch's avatar

medics are soldiers

doctors are in the army

chaplains

Katie Couric; Dan Rather; & thousands more embedded with US military in Iraq. Would you shoot Dan or Katie, for supporting Rumsfeld's war? 🤣🤣💁💁

all are unarmed

all are protected by the Laws of War.

Rules of engagement are quite strict on that.

So.

Be careful whose Schrecklichheit you advocate ;)

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Margaret's avatar

Hamas would shoot them yes. The enemy would shoot them .

Iran detained a dozen or more Americans as embedded CIA they might have been killed if Canada didn't rescue them.

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Amos's avatar

Israel has killed many Americans.

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Danielle Wolfson's avatar

So, we should cut off aid or not? Should it matter if it will be used for nefarious purposes if it claims to be for food and medicine? Hamas is the govt. If Israel didn’t allow money being given by Qatar in, you would have said what? Amazing how you guys have such double standards. If we don’t cut off aid/funding we are complicit. If we cut off aid or try to shut down funding through the selling of aid, we are war criminals. Funny how that always works when it comes to Israel. Make it make sense.

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Mike Rauch's avatar

no no no

I think youre missing the point.

If "hamas" has access to money; cellphones; & internet....its because netanyahu -wants- them to.

Dont play coy.

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Danielle Wolfson's avatar

Let’s not start name calling. I am far from coy. Not a Bibi fan and most mention historical Qatari funding being Israel’s fault. You are oversimplifying the situation. If you are talking about current state: Hamas is making billions selling aid from the 80% of trucks being looted and the useful idiots/kids through the infiltration of Muslim Brotherhood in our schools donating generously on social media platforms. What could Israel and its ppl do beyond dying that will make you happy? BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT “A STATE”. THEY WANT “THE STATE”. “FROM WATER TO WATER, PALESTINE WILL BE ARAB” IS THE REAL CHANT.

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Mike Rauch's avatar

to whom are they selling stuff?

who in palestine has money?

OP says people can be killed simply for broadcasting opinions the regime doesnt like.

thats rather dangerous ground, dont you think?

What if the next ones they kill are from AP; Reuters; BBC; or CNN?

Will they kill more ICRC & Red Crescent staff too?

MSF?

Fuck outta here

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Danielle Wolfson's avatar

Oh, Karen. They are selling aid to the Gazans. Are you kidding me? Almost all the aid until GHF came in was being sold to them at exorbitant premiums. Thats why BIbi put the GHF in place to cut off the money flow to Hamas. Go on Gazayoudontsee on instagram. This is not even disputed. They use cash and cash app with fees. The Gazans get paid a refugee stipend perpetually through UNRWA. They are on their 4th generation as refugees. The only ones in the world that have this. They had 60% home ownership before 10/7 with 70% unemployment all paid for by tax dollars to UNRWA which is a conspirator with Hamas. They radicalized the population and groom children to fight for the resistance. The GRIFT IS REAL.

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DerekWildstar's avatar

I admire your effort, Danielle, but it is wasted on a Jew-hater.

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Andy G's avatar

…I’m probably with you on most of what you say, but the “Karen” is correct that Hamas is not making *billions* selling aid from the looted trucks.

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Margaret's avatar

They are selling it to people with cash or cards. Their cellular phones are working. They sell it to other Hamas people. There are cafes open in Gaza, bread plants. We are not seeing the whole picture. They extort a tax from supply convoys too.

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Andy G's avatar

Agreed.

But that still doesn’t jibe with the claim that Hamas are making *billions* doing this.

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Margaret's avatar

Aid to civilians ? No don't cut off aid. But don't blame IDF for Hamas stealing it. And let IDF finish the job.

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pierpling's avatar

finish WHAT job .??? the genocide job ????

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Margaret's avatar

How do we know they were unarmed? How do we know their identity except what we're told? Also, Hamas is criminally responsible for civilian casualties who are used as human shields and who are deliberately put in the line of fire by their supposed government.Thats on Hamas not IDF. Plus, half the numbers maybe Hamas, possibly reducing the casualty rate to below 2 percent. It's not genocide it's Democide, Hamas deliberately putting their people at risk, and in the line of fire.

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Danielle Wolfson's avatar

I hear you but you apply western ideas and situations to something very different. These people are a radicalized society. It is similar to nazi Germany. The majority are affiliated and have a role and those that don’t suffer.

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Mustafa Khan's avatar

Why do zionists sound like Nazis?

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Marcus Aurelius's avatar

I can see Jews and Gentile genocide-apologist are tripling and quadrupling down on their long ago debunked lies about Hamas and the Palestinians. The lack of humanity in you creatures in blaming the victim leaves me speechless most times. But I’m here forever to be in your ear and call you out to my last breath. Long live the Palestinian resistance that fights the ugliest forms of facism and racism the world has ever bear witness to.

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pierpling's avatar

f.cking idiot , bu of course..what can you expect from an ex-military !!

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Dana Ramos's avatar

Interesting how Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have all BANNED Al Jeezera from broadcasting in their countries. Guess where Al Jazeera is alive and well?--in Western countries. Go figure.

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Marcus Aurelius's avatar

All those countries you mentioned are run by despots and monarchies under the thumb of the West. Do some research before posting ignorant comments like this.

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Dana Ramos's avatar

But it’s true, despots or not. They’ve banned AlJazeera. AND they’ve banned the Muslim Brotherhood (which is still also alive and well in Western countries).

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Jules in the Dam's avatar

These Zion cunts are so sick, it needs a diagnosis. Oh hang on, psychotic narcissistic sociopathic. Getting there….

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Tobias Barkley's avatar

The ICTY already said no to this argument. Propaganda isn't enough to lose journalists civilian status. https://www.icty.org/en/press/final-report-prosecutor-committee-established-review-nato-bombing-campaign-against-federal#IVB3 [76]

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Hartmut's avatar

Not only are you ignoring the fact that your government talks openly about exterminating Palestinians, you are also ignoring the fact that you, being a Jew, were victim of a genocide 80 years ago. This brings to mind at least two thoughts:

1. Since trying to murder a group of people is ok, what the nazis did was also ok.

2. The people that called you out for being horrendous creatures are not Jew hater antisemites, but realists.

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