20 Comments
User's avatar
Joshua Dabelstein's avatar

Hi guys - author here! If you like my work, please subscribe to my Substack or follow me on Instagram @for.normal.people

It's mostly me trying to pick apart prejudice, inconsistency, hypocrisy, etc.

I'll be uploading a chat with Amelia Adams of Neuroticjewishgay in the next 24-36hours, too.

Thanks so much everyone for staying strong and taking the time to read, and huge thanks to Joshua Hoffman for the tireless work down here in the trenches.

Expand full comment
Dan's avatar
Jul 23Edited

Exactly. Well written. Take heart, and be of good cheer. There are many of us.

Expand full comment
Amy B's avatar

SO PERFECT!!!

Expand full comment
Rach Silver's avatar

Wow! What a powerful essay. The #truth. Thank you from one Zionist to another

Expand full comment
Richard Baker's avatar

The critics of Israel live in relative safety in their own countries but the Jewish state makes them mad because Éretz Yisra'él won't give up and just die. Using the Holocaust inversion trivializes the real Holocaust which was the purposeful act of the nation state of Nazi Germany. Islam, unfortunately, IS the problem with adults grooming their children to kill and die for this perversion of religion. As a parent of two children I'm appalled at Iran and its surrogates saying that for their kids to kill and die for Allah is somehow righteous. This is not civilized humanity but rather demonic.

Expand full comment
Robin Alexander's avatar

I cal them barbarians; demonic is fine too.

Expand full comment
Freedom Lover's avatar

At one time there was a case for anti-Zionism, particularly among Jews. I disagree but there was a case. Before 1948. Today there is no distinction between an "Anti-Zionist" and a murder applauding Nazi. They are one and the same.

Expand full comment
Kerry Shaw's avatar

You’re confused at best: in actuality, there’s no gap between murder applauding Zionists and the modern idea and common understanding of what a Nazi is; none. Same animal.

Fuck Israel - Amen ✝️

Expand full comment
Freedom Lover's avatar

Fuck you Nazi.

Expand full comment
Kerry Shaw's avatar

Demonstrated cliché: every accusation made by a Jew, is a confession.

Everyone has come to realize that as fact

You Zionist clowns need a new schtick; you’ve all ripped your own masks off. We all know who the Nazis are, and it ain’t us.

Your actual by demonstration Nazis are starving to death a fully captive defenseless population including its children; yet you have the gall to call anyone who calls out the perpetrators for what they are, a Nazi? 🤣

Fuck you clown, and above all:

Fuck ISRAEL-Amen ✝️

Expand full comment
Susan B Shulman's avatar

AM YISRAEL CHAI ❣️

Expand full comment
IsraelActivistCalendar's avatar

Say no to “Palestinianism”!

Expand full comment
Ronda Wells MD's avatar

The truly crazy thing is the Left usually eschews guns. I guess they’re okay with children being taught how to use “weapons of war” at summer camp!?

Expand full comment
Robin Alexander's avatar

They are sooooo hypocritical. But that's the least of their "sins." The whole platter of Marxist intersectional woke garbage is inexcusable. And I've been a moderate leftie my whole life. Can't stand what's happened to academia and a good deal of the Democratic Party.

Expand full comment
Suzy's avatar

💯 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟

Expand full comment
Viktor Khandourine's avatar

Great article, Joshua. Another good thing about it is that you can argue with it. Not refute it, there's nothing to refute, but argue with it so you can more effectively define your line (Are you really a pacifist or a realist? More or less?).

First, I've long wanted to suggest that authors stop using this trick with a trolley on the tracks, which is more misleading than it is an illustrative example.

Understand that it doesn't matter who turns the lever, it doesn't matter which track the trolley goes on. The moral responsibility lies with those who put people on the tracks.

That's the trap of this problem. It creates a false transfer of responsibility to a random person who is not involved in the event. This problem can only be used as an example of manipulation and shifting responsibility (Use it. It's a good example).

Regarding pacifism. For example, I have no right to be a pacifist as long as there are many groups of people who want to kill my loved ones, relatives and acquaintances, destroy my way of life and everything that is dear to me. Note that I am not saying that they want to kill me; if they wanted to kill only me, I would not object to pacifism. Hating war and being a pacifist are two completely different things. Almost opposite.

Expand full comment
Robin Alexander's avatar

Well done. Let me add, because you mention the accusation of a Holocaust and genocide:

I think that this is actually a betrayal of the six million Jews who were murdered. The people who make this accusation are, at best, ignorant of both vocabulary and history and think they sound worldly and compassionate; at worst they are spitting on those six million ON PURPOSE, intending to devastate the living by degrading the dead.

And still, we go on. We see what they are, but we are not cowed. And I have never been so proud to be a Jew.

Expand full comment
Joshua Dabelstein's avatar

Yes! See my other work on Holocaust inversion, you’re absolutely right and we’re on the same page man

Expand full comment
Robin Alexander's avatar

I did a search but could not find what I think you are referring to. Want to send a link? A title? Thanks.

Expand full comment
Robin Alexander's avatar

Awesome

Expand full comment