I have found bringing this up to useful idiots shuts them the fuck up. Two simple questions. How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Koran and how many times is Israel. It’s a simple as that.
Oh, just wanna follow up with us after rereading this thread. My question is not rhetorical. Because it has a definite answer. Query: how many times in the Quran is Palestine dimension? Answer: 0.00 query: how many times is Israel mentioned in the Quran? Answer: more than 40.Additionally, in the Quran Muhammad is told Israel is the Jews, that is their land. So not rhetorical at all. Based in fact, 100%. That is what we do with the truth hurts. We dig into uncomfortable topics and come to conclusions based on facts.
1492 marked the official expulsion of unconverted jews and the end of muslim rule in spain. this lead to forced conversions, their definitive mass expulsuion occurred later.
As for the Quran, regardless of the interpretation and subsequent decrees, the holy document speaks of Israel and the Jews being its rightful inhabitants. So to argue that there was originally Palestine or the land is somehow another people’s is not only inconsistent with religious doctrine but also archeology and carbon dating.
Interesting and informative essay. Although not in the Quran, the Gharqad tree is mentioned in Hadith literature (sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad). In these narrations, the Gharqad is described as the “tree of the Jews” that will protect them during apocalyptic battles at the end of times. It is written in the Hadith that trees will reveal if a Jew is hiding behind it, except for the Gharqad, which is described as the "tree of the Jews." I've tried to purchase such a tree at various nurseries, one even managed by a Muslim, but none knew what I was talking about or had ever heard of it. If anybody knows of where to purchase such a tree, kindly share.
Bernard Lewis the late historian is my authority ....discredited by the Saidists of course....so his texts I doubt are being used at Columbia et al. He wrote that the "Children of Israel" " in the Quran have nothing to do, for Muslims, with the contemporary Jews. And those Jews are Khazars or Poles or whatever. The Mideast Jews are retroactively embraced as fellow Arabs of Jewish faith. Just don't invite them back to Egypt or Libya. There are too many contradictions in contemporary Muslim and Palestinianist thought/ideology. A lot is irrational. The Christians of the Mideast helped to import Christian racist antisemitism to the Mid east. The corrupt but ineffective, weak Jews were now as in Europe a demonic existential threat to dar al Islam. That's pretty much what we have now with Marxist antisemitism combined. I'm not a scholar of Mideast studies but I believe Lewis to be still unmatched and there is no one like him today. No, I'm not going to read Pappe's drivel which is now standard along side Said in Mideast Studies on Zionism/Israel.
I have found bringing this up to useful idiots shuts them the fuck up. Two simple questions. How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Koran and how many times is Israel. It’s a simple as that.
You ask a rhetorical question, but ever even after reading this, I am still not sure what the snappy answer is. It's not simple to me, please share.
Another historical question just out of curiosity: when the Jews were kicked out of Spain in 1492, where the Muslims also kicked out?
Anyway, I have never before read anything even remotely similar to this. Thank you
Oh, just wanna follow up with us after rereading this thread. My question is not rhetorical. Because it has a definite answer. Query: how many times in the Quran is Palestine dimension? Answer: 0.00 query: how many times is Israel mentioned in the Quran? Answer: more than 40.Additionally, in the Quran Muhammad is told Israel is the Jews, that is their land. So not rhetorical at all. Based in fact, 100%. That is what we do with the truth hurts. We dig into uncomfortable topics and come to conclusions based on facts.
1492 marked the official expulsion of unconverted jews and the end of muslim rule in spain. this lead to forced conversions, their definitive mass expulsuion occurred later.
As for the Quran, regardless of the interpretation and subsequent decrees, the holy document speaks of Israel and the Jews being its rightful inhabitants. So to argue that there was originally Palestine or the land is somehow another people’s is not only inconsistent with religious doctrine but also archeology and carbon dating.
As a former Muslim of 28 years, I couldn’t agree more with this excellent article. Stay gold.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Awaiting word on this from the Islamic studies professors at Harvard and Columbia and an in depth analysis from the great NYT
Interesting and informative essay. Although not in the Quran, the Gharqad tree is mentioned in Hadith literature (sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad). In these narrations, the Gharqad is described as the “tree of the Jews” that will protect them during apocalyptic battles at the end of times. It is written in the Hadith that trees will reveal if a Jew is hiding behind it, except for the Gharqad, which is described as the "tree of the Jews." I've tried to purchase such a tree at various nurseries, one even managed by a Muslim, but none knew what I was talking about or had ever heard of it. If anybody knows of where to purchase such a tree, kindly share.
Allah is one of the biggest Zionists in history.
Bernard Lewis the late historian is my authority ....discredited by the Saidists of course....so his texts I doubt are being used at Columbia et al. He wrote that the "Children of Israel" " in the Quran have nothing to do, for Muslims, with the contemporary Jews. And those Jews are Khazars or Poles or whatever. The Mideast Jews are retroactively embraced as fellow Arabs of Jewish faith. Just don't invite them back to Egypt or Libya. There are too many contradictions in contemporary Muslim and Palestinianist thought/ideology. A lot is irrational. The Christians of the Mideast helped to import Christian racist antisemitism to the Mid east. The corrupt but ineffective, weak Jews were now as in Europe a demonic existential threat to dar al Islam. That's pretty much what we have now with Marxist antisemitism combined. I'm not a scholar of Mideast studies but I believe Lewis to be still unmatched and there is no one like him today. No, I'm not going to read Pappe's drivel which is now standard along side Said in Mideast Studies on Zionism/Israel.
A long-awaited and vital piece of information. Thanks.