Enjoy this satirical piece about folks who seem to care so much about human rights, "liberation," and sociopolitical grievances — but only for God's gift to the world, the honorable Palestinians.
Good article Josh, but heck - if I have to go through all of that to end up "agreeing to disagree" I lost the argument. My parting shot would be to shrug and say, “you know, every single point you made is false and I have proof, from Arabs/Muslims themselves and from public records. Here’s some info. Read it. Throw it out. Up to you. But I’d worry if I was you. Someone – maybe a lot of people – are lying to you. And if you continue supporting their lies you’re the one who will end up their victim."
Last week I had a 3 hour Zoom meeting with a behavioral scientist – a Canadian Zionist who actually worked for years at the UN and has a good sense of how they operate. His advice to fight pro-Pally propaganda is to hit hard with info that is indisputable. With his help, I’m currently developing a single-page “fact sheet” debunking pro-Pally propaganda with quotes from Arabs, Muslims and public records. I intend to publish it and keep it handy for one-on-one discussions with pro-Palestinians.
I want to add something else: when dealing with a young campus protestor; it’s important to find out how and why they chose this activity. I think you’ll discover that many of them are just going along with the crowd to be “cool” or they have a love interest involved in the cause. In which case, facts will mean nothing to them because the Pally cause actually means nothing to them. It’s better to plant seeds of doubt in their minds about the crowd they hang out with or that love interest, if you can.
Just as all Jews are not George Soros acolytes, no group of humans is all anything.
There are short, tall, skinny, fat and all other human variations of Jew Haters.
And for me, if nothing else is accomplished, if they reject the truth when it is presented in detail, they are without excuse, and to me, that is a consolation prize worth my efforts.
If you like this idea, I just left the perfect set up. Unfortunately, in the time it took to make two truth posts they couldn't deny and did not try, when I went to post on a section where they were pretending to not be bigots by celebrating Bob Dylaj's birthday!
The site is Chiron Returns, here on the Stacks, todays edition.
Apparently, I am only banned from posting for seven days and still have access to read. It's been less than an hour and bizarrely, my truth posts were still up, so if you see this and have time you can see those too.
But now I would count it as a great favor to me, because I was so close, and I had blurb to go with it typed when I was stymied.
And if you don't make bunch of criticisms like I did, being they are in pretend not to be bigots mode, it will quite likely stay up, it's Dylan's birthday!
Even practiced liar couldn't cone up with a good excuse to delete it.
Here is a fun suggestion : Go to a Jew Hater site like Helena Glass on WordPress and cut and paste Dylan 's "Neighborhood Bully" in its entirety, which is about eight paragraphs.
Sometimes I don't really need to see a lot of hope for convincing anyone, especially a full on loon like Helena, I just want to annoy them as much as they annoy me.
Maybe that's shallow but I don't think it's healthy to keep stuff like that inside, better to give vent to it.
I have not had occasion to have this discussion with any pro-Palistinians yet, but I look forward to seeing your fact sheet, Susan. Thanks for this comment!
I want to mention that I don't believe it would be a good idea for you to invest time in.
Originally I did because you do have factual knowledge to be effective.
But upon reflection I realize what you do here is much more useful, even in providing me with ammunition and a break from the loons, but more so in giving the Amen Chorus a place of our own.
As a generality, it's good advice but I don't really see relevance to letting Jew Hate go undisputed.
And presuming a Jew Haters to be a fool is just that, presumption.
Media manipulation has hooked a lot of intelligent people.
And I have an example from a recent visit to a Jew Hater page where a poster challenged my assertion that Armegeddon is God 'a promised vengeance on Jew Haters, and demanded scriptural proof.
I responded with Deuteronomy 32, Ezekiel 37 and Joel 3.
She never posted back and I have never seen her on that site since and she had been a very vocal Jew Hater and regular poster.
I have to assume when provided inarguable proof, she was convicted and repented of foolishness.
No. I said the app is on my device "involuntarily resident" on my hard drive. It comes pre installed and cannot be removed.
No matter what add on shadow I cloak with, YouTube is how I got there so it already knew who I was and it very indubitably does not like me but if you ever go into comments you know how vile they can be.
But I can be devastating without obscene wording and YouTube, being Hard Core Lefty, really doesn't appreciate that.
All Lefty sites treat me that way, giving me suspensions and bans when my assailant really did break the rules and there is no specific one they can point to and my troll is lying and accusing me of lying and my point is provably true.
It just keeps drawing to its inevitable end, Armegeddon.
Except I do believe one thing can render Prophecy null and void.
Obedience and it's companions, especially repentance.
Regardless of Lefty fantasies that God doesn't believe in Collective Punishment, I believe the record shows that He does and is a very devoted practitioner of it.
That doesn't bode well for us in Western Europe or America unless we can really " Get this mess cleaned up before Daddy gets home"!
Because otherwise He may let the Heathen have their way with us.
We came into this wealth after it was withheld for disobedience exactly as prophesied.
We were promised control of all the world's sea gates and they were ours until prosperity made rebellious brats of us and He began taking them away so we no longer have strategic control and that will inevitably be disastrous.
If we weren't staggering under China Joe and the traitors our first Muslim President paved the way for by firing 400 patriotic high ranking military officers whose replacements led to lowering physical requirements so gluttonous fairies can be Transed, we could take them back but right now over 200 official US military studies have shown if we try to defend Taiwan in the South China Sea, we will lose.
That's why China Joe wants to do it.
Things have been rotten so long, sj couple years back our hottest jet crashed and was left where it crashed.
Satellite photos show China retrieved it to reverse engineer it.
One of Obama's Officers let that happen.
Trannie teen boys raping teen girls in the school building, killing babies, inviting invaders and paying the freight for maintaining them, it can't last...
I like Brave too, it's one of my browsers but the thing I like is it doesn't really anonymize you, and so Disqus recognizes me and I don't have to go through a rigamarole to post.
But on YouTube it's a drawback because I am banned from posting for mocking Jew Haters.
I like Firefox Focus for a lot of stuff and mostly picked Focus for it's small size on my phone.
I can only guess. I don't work there. I have no sock puppets. And I have never tried to, my back up is the same name @ the back up.
Until the censorship craze I never had any use for subterfuge and I still don't. As I said, private DNS gets me where I need to go, along with creative thinking.
Chiron Returns is a Jew Hater site here on Substack.
I made two posts debunking their lies and was about to post Dylan's
Neighborhood Bully when they suspended me for telling truth.
Then they and their supporters flooded my inbox.
So I pulled up the article and looked at the heading and sure enough there was a respond to link.
So I used that to debunk the site owners defense and called him a twit for flooding my inbox and blocking my responses on the board.
And his response to that will be bounced back, because I blocked him.
I have found that the most effective method to confronting pro-Palestinians is to take a rhetorical approach. For example, "I see that you are very concerned about the situation of refugees In the Middle East. " What is the condition of the Jews in Arab countries? Again, what is the percentage of Arab Istaeli citizens in Israel"? Why do you not concern yourself the the ethnic cleansing of 850 thousand Jewish refugees if you take a balanced view? In terms of responsibility for outcomes as a result of faulty decisions, "When you decide to enter into a casino and gamble, what happens when you lose? Can you demand to get your money back?" "Why do Palestinians and their surrounding Arab countries start wars and initiate violence and yet cannot accept the resulting outcomes for their direct decisions?" These questions put the onus on the opponent to justify their stance and more often than not, very few of the questions can be intelligently addressed. So ends the conversation.
Good! Actually this was another approach recommended by that behavioral scientist I spoke with. Acknowledge their "concern" and then hit them with nasty truths about the people they are supporting. Could plant seeds among those who still have some ability to think critically. But it won't among those whose reasons for supporting the Pallies have nothing to do with the cause itself and are purely emotionally based.
Palestined PAL-uh-stighnd adjective 1. To have reached an incomprehensible state of mind
whereby an individual is affected by external sources of disinformation and refers to the State of Israel
as a colonizing entity and accuses it of apartheid or genocide. 2. To have reached an incomprehensible state of mind denying the existence of the State of Israel and replacing it with the name of a previous territory in the same geographical area.
I feel that my cousin Bernie has become palestined as he now supports the funding of UNRWA.
I wonder if my band mate Roger has become palestined, because he over-emphasizes pig imagery
during our concert on purpose to annoy certain people.
I’m glad that my friend Alanis discovered her Jewish self, which hopefully will prevent her from being palestined.
Josh, then you have to ask them WHY they don't believe the Muslim, Arab or public record you got the facts from. If they claim something like "well they sold out to the Jews" or "the Jews control public records" don't even continue citing facts to them because they are brainwashed with anti-Semitic tropes. Actually, I think it's important to get to know the person a bit before launching into any debate with them. Not just the young campus protestor. People get brainwashed by persons or things they need or love. Because they don't want to risk "disagreeing" with them. These are emotionally damaged people but that's not your problem. The issue is to determine if you can have a fact-based debate with them, or not. My cousin let go of a long-time friend who came out with pro-Pally sentiments after marrying an anti-Semite. The woman couldn't even explain why she felt the way she did but my cousin knows her husband and his anti-Semitism so it was easy to figure out. This is a woman with a PhD who is ignoring facts and long-time friendships with Jews because she "adores" her new husband and feels insecure about disputing politics with him. Just proves that emotion is stronger than intellect and an insecure person, no matter how high her IQ or what degree she holds - is damaged goods and not worth your time and effort. Not to worry. These people will end up in the dustbin of history; hopefully sooner rather than later.
This was really good showing the absurdity of even trying to talk to a Pro-Palestinian. The problem is they wouldn't listen because like the children they are (and adults included) they want you to listen to what they have to say and disregard your facts/opinions. Facts do not exist for them and that's because they have no historical knowledge, nor do they want to learn about it. For me, these are like people who have an addiction, mental problem and no one can force them to get help. It must come from within in order to change or overcome whatever it is they're suffering from. In this case, it's ignorant delusions.
Much of this mind-set comes from the woke dogma they are exposed to. All the "your truth", "my truth" idiocy that considers subjective experience or opinion more accurate than objective, fact-based truth. You can thank the cultural Marxists "marching through Western institutions" (media, academia, politics) all these years for creating a generation of intellectual zombies that would even shock Orwell or Huxley. The Islamists are now benefitting from it.
Agreed. We can thank Qatar and others who have been pumping money into our universities for over twenty years, hiring Marxist professors and in exchange for their "donor" money, creating Middle East Studies, and any other studies they want. I laugh at the "my truth," "lived experiences," but only their, of course.
I suggest they overcome their Library phobia, look for contemporaneous histories which are free from any possible bias since Zionism wasn't even a seed in the pre Zionism 1800's.
Encyclopedia Brittanica would fit the bill, tell you no ethnicity was even five figures, and the resident Arabs were Bedouin, totally separate from settled Arabs, and are hone anywhere and no where and will no doubt move on shortly, makes no mention
of any mythical Fakestinian population and assesses Jewish population as 6K.
And points out the perps of the massacres were Egyptians raiding from Egypt, not a Fakestinian mentioned.
I know you are sincere and mean well. I don’t think it well help.
Another thing you can do is say “Go fuck yourself.” Or if that’s too harsh you can offer assistance: “How can I help you to go fuck yourself?” If those options are too severe, you can say “I’ll be right back. I need to get a checkered tablecloth out of the car and a rubber band to affix it to my head so I can really appreciate your points.” Alternatively you can just smile and walk away to get another drink or find better company. This is like a Black person being forced to justify their existence to Bull Conner. Presumably the person you’re talking to is an otherwise intelligent, educated person with an extra-Hebraic modicum of social skills. This is analogous to the liberal who has TDS, only worse. . You can’t get there from here.
If they actually live under a rock and haven’t seen the sun in decades or know anything about morality, ethics or civilization, , you might cut them some slack.
Most of these people will not change their minds, nor are they interested in what you have to say. If they were, there would be a much bigger uproar over the injustice being meted out to Jews and Israel.
Who said anything about surrender? I’ve been through this many times. All that ends up happening is an argument and nobody changes their mind. It’s the same as Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s a waste of time arguing with a brainwashed person. They don’t care about facts. It’s an emotional response.
Very good. And speaking of women and children, I’m constantly hating/reading about multitudes I of women and children in harms way, exposed to this and that in Gaza. One question. Where are the men, hiding in tunnels?
Jewish wit, humor, irony, satire, intellect, hopefulness in the midst of dire circumstances, power stance of self-definition, ... etc. is alive and well!! Mind you, quite recently I had a VERY brief encounter with a friend-ish person who contacted me out of the blue to 'see how I am doing'? Well my first reaction online was ahem, cough, cough, repressed laughter snort. titter, ... omg-ya-gotta-be-kidding-lemme-guess-what's-coming-next. So after I read the few sentences I replied immediately a la #jews-are-forthright. I established my ground rules to 'dis-gust' the matter: a) any other individual who 'just wants to see how I'm doing' and 'just wants to talk' needs to upfront acknowledge that what happened on Oct 7 was horrible, mean, murderous, violent, disgusting for starters and that there is zero excuse for the heinous acts that were perpetrated on My People inclusive of their Blessed Employees from other nations b) said 'friendly' guised persons must acknowledge that The Jewish People (inclusive of terms such as Ivri/Hebrews and Israelites had been in that Land since at least 3400 years ago and thus are Indigenous and according to my Culture's Oral Tradition We, the Jews/Ivri/Israelites were there prior to the Altar at Shiloh - which notably is only recently subject to a great archaeological excavation. If a and b are openly met it is possible that I might engage in a 'conversation' with someone with a 'different' viewpoint whether they are Jewish or Non-Jewish or Not-So-Jewish or Jewish-anti-Jewish etc. Otherwise I am much more happy to continue living in my own la-la-land of research and learning snippets of Torah via reading, and listening to a range of 'orthodox' Rabbis on youtube etc.
Re Step 3: Before 1948 the Jews were called “Palestinians”. Note the Palestine Philharmonic Orchestra (now the Israel Philharmonic) and the Palestine Post (now the Jerusalem Post).
Good article Josh, but heck - if I have to go through all of that to end up "agreeing to disagree" I lost the argument. My parting shot would be to shrug and say, “you know, every single point you made is false and I have proof, from Arabs/Muslims themselves and from public records. Here’s some info. Read it. Throw it out. Up to you. But I’d worry if I was you. Someone – maybe a lot of people – are lying to you. And if you continue supporting their lies you’re the one who will end up their victim."
Last week I had a 3 hour Zoom meeting with a behavioral scientist – a Canadian Zionist who actually worked for years at the UN and has a good sense of how they operate. His advice to fight pro-Pally propaganda is to hit hard with info that is indisputable. With his help, I’m currently developing a single-page “fact sheet” debunking pro-Pally propaganda with quotes from Arabs, Muslims and public records. I intend to publish it and keep it handy for one-on-one discussions with pro-Palestinians.
I want to add something else: when dealing with a young campus protestor; it’s important to find out how and why they chose this activity. I think you’ll discover that many of them are just going along with the crowd to be “cool” or they have a love interest involved in the cause. In which case, facts will mean nothing to them because the Pally cause actually means nothing to them. It’s better to plant seeds of doubt in their minds about the crowd they hang out with or that love interest, if you can.
Except that “pro-Palestinians” don’t care about facts and proof…
Just as all Jews are not George Soros acolytes, no group of humans is all anything.
There are short, tall, skinny, fat and all other human variations of Jew Haters.
And for me, if nothing else is accomplished, if they reject the truth when it is presented in detail, they are without excuse, and to me, that is a consolation prize worth my efforts.
If you like this idea, I just left the perfect set up. Unfortunately, in the time it took to make two truth posts they couldn't deny and did not try, when I went to post on a section where they were pretending to not be bigots by celebrating Bob Dylaj's birthday!
The site is Chiron Returns, here on the Stacks, todays edition.
Apparently, I am only banned from posting for seven days and still have access to read. It's been less than an hour and bizarrely, my truth posts were still up, so if you see this and have time you can see those too.
But now I would count it as a great favor to me, because I was so close, and I had blurb to go with it typed when I was stymied.
And if you don't make bunch of criticisms like I did, being they are in pretend not to be bigots mode, it will quite likely stay up, it's Dylan's birthday!
Even practiced liar couldn't cone up with a good excuse to delete it.
Here is a fun suggestion : Go to a Jew Hater site like Helena Glass on WordPress and cut and paste Dylan 's "Neighborhood Bully" in its entirety, which is about eight paragraphs.
Sometimes I don't really need to see a lot of hope for convincing anyone, especially a full on loon like Helena, I just want to annoy them as much as they annoy me.
Maybe that's shallow but I don't think it's healthy to keep stuff like that inside, better to give vent to it.
I look forward to your fact sheet while worrying no info is „indisputable“ in this upside-down post-10/7 world.
I have not had occasion to have this discussion with any pro-Palistinians yet, but I look forward to seeing your fact sheet, Susan. Thanks for this comment!
I agree wholeheartedly. I hereby authorize Joshua to divulge my email address to you and ask that you email me the list as soon as you finalize it.
Proverbs 29:9 (JPS) If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he be angry or laugh, there will be no rest.
Another translation might say, " ignore a fool".
I'll add, if you have time to reason with an idiot, you might feel the fool.
Amen amen
I want to mention that I don't believe it would be a good idea for you to invest time in.
Originally I did because you do have factual knowledge to be effective.
But upon reflection I realize what you do here is much more useful, even in providing me with ammunition and a break from the loons, but more so in giving the Amen Chorus a place of our own.
As a generality, it's good advice but I don't really see relevance to letting Jew Hate go undisputed.
And presuming a Jew Haters to be a fool is just that, presumption.
Media manipulation has hooked a lot of intelligent people.
And I have an example from a recent visit to a Jew Hater page where a poster challenged my assertion that Armegeddon is God 'a promised vengeance on Jew Haters, and demanded scriptural proof.
I responded with Deuteronomy 32, Ezekiel 37 and Joel 3.
She never posted back and I have never seen her on that site since and she had been a very vocal Jew Hater and regular poster.
I have to assume when provided inarguable proof, she was convicted and repented of foolishness.
How can I search for your link? . If I click this, my involuntary resident You Tube kicks in and knows who I am regardless of anything else.
No. I said the app is on my device "involuntarily resident" on my hard drive. It comes pre installed and cannot be removed.
No matter what add on shadow I cloak with, YouTube is how I got there so it already knew who I was and it very indubitably does not like me but if you ever go into comments you know how vile they can be.
But I can be devastating without obscene wording and YouTube, being Hard Core Lefty, really doesn't appreciate that.
All Lefty sites treat me that way, giving me suspensions and bans when my assailant really did break the rules and there is no specific one they can point to and my troll is lying and accusing me of lying and my point is provably true.
It just keeps drawing to its inevitable end, Armegeddon.
Except I do believe one thing can render Prophecy null and void.
Obedience and it's companions, especially repentance.
Regardless of Lefty fantasies that God doesn't believe in Collective Punishment, I believe the record shows that He does and is a very devoted practitioner of it.
That doesn't bode well for us in Western Europe or America unless we can really " Get this mess cleaned up before Daddy gets home"!
Because otherwise He may let the Heathen have their way with us.
We came into this wealth after it was withheld for disobedience exactly as prophesied.
We were promised control of all the world's sea gates and they were ours until prosperity made rebellious brats of us and He began taking them away so we no longer have strategic control and that will inevitably be disastrous.
If we weren't staggering under China Joe and the traitors our first Muslim President paved the way for by firing 400 patriotic high ranking military officers whose replacements led to lowering physical requirements so gluttonous fairies can be Transed, we could take them back but right now over 200 official US military studies have shown if we try to defend Taiwan in the South China Sea, we will lose.
That's why China Joe wants to do it.
Things have been rotten so long, sj couple years back our hottest jet crashed and was left where it crashed.
Satellite photos show China retrieved it to reverse engineer it.
One of Obama's Officers let that happen.
Trannie teen boys raping teen girls in the school building, killing babies, inviting invaders and paying the freight for maintaining them, it can't last...
I forgot to say I did not search Objective Israel because that's what I was asking for, so thanks and I will check it out.
If you have a stack and I didn't notice it's because I steer clear of that so that drop down won't make me have to go back to my inbox.
got it, thanks, looks good!! Watching first one on Feiglin. Good man.
OK, thanks. I just filled in a paragraph on the first post that somehow didn't make it the first time and it needs it to make sense.
I like Brave too, it's one of my browsers but the thing I like is it doesn't really anonymize you, and so Disqus recognizes me and I don't have to go through a rigamarole to post.
But on YouTube it's a drawback because I am banned from posting for mocking Jew Haters.
I like Firefox Focus for a lot of stuff and mostly picked Focus for it's small size on my phone.
I can only guess. I don't work there. I have no sock puppets. And I have never tried to, my back up is the same name @ the back up.
Until the censorship craze I never had any use for subterfuge and I still don't. As I said, private DNS gets me where I need to go, along with creative thinking.
Chiron Returns is a Jew Hater site here on Substack.
I made two posts debunking their lies and was about to post Dylan's
Neighborhood Bully when they suspended me for telling truth.
Then they and their supporters flooded my inbox.
So I pulled up the article and looked at the heading and sure enough there was a respond to link.
So I used that to debunk the site owners defense and called him a twit for flooding my inbox and blocking my responses on the board.
And his response to that will be bounced back, because I blocked him.
I have found that the most effective method to confronting pro-Palestinians is to take a rhetorical approach. For example, "I see that you are very concerned about the situation of refugees In the Middle East. " What is the condition of the Jews in Arab countries? Again, what is the percentage of Arab Istaeli citizens in Israel"? Why do you not concern yourself the the ethnic cleansing of 850 thousand Jewish refugees if you take a balanced view? In terms of responsibility for outcomes as a result of faulty decisions, "When you decide to enter into a casino and gamble, what happens when you lose? Can you demand to get your money back?" "Why do Palestinians and their surrounding Arab countries start wars and initiate violence and yet cannot accept the resulting outcomes for their direct decisions?" These questions put the onus on the opponent to justify their stance and more often than not, very few of the questions can be intelligently addressed. So ends the conversation.
Good! Actually this was another approach recommended by that behavioral scientist I spoke with. Acknowledge their "concern" and then hit them with nasty truths about the people they are supporting. Could plant seeds among those who still have some ability to think critically. But it won't among those whose reasons for supporting the Pallies have nothing to do with the cause itself and are purely emotionally based.
There are people who still think that the earth is flat. Chalk it up to a lost cause.
Palestined PAL-uh-stighnd adjective 1. To have reached an incomprehensible state of mind
whereby an individual is affected by external sources of disinformation and refers to the State of Israel
as a colonizing entity and accuses it of apartheid or genocide. 2. To have reached an incomprehensible state of mind denying the existence of the State of Israel and replacing it with the name of a previous territory in the same geographical area.
I feel that my cousin Bernie has become palestined as he now supports the funding of UNRWA.
I wonder if my band mate Roger has become palestined, because he over-emphasizes pig imagery
during our concert on purpose to annoy certain people.
I’m glad that my friend Alanis discovered her Jewish self, which hopefully will prevent her from being palestined.
Hahaha love the “Palestined” — thanks for sharing!
Is your band mate Roger Waters? If so, can you ask him exactly how he is related to Maxine Waters?
Josh, then you have to ask them WHY they don't believe the Muslim, Arab or public record you got the facts from. If they claim something like "well they sold out to the Jews" or "the Jews control public records" don't even continue citing facts to them because they are brainwashed with anti-Semitic tropes. Actually, I think it's important to get to know the person a bit before launching into any debate with them. Not just the young campus protestor. People get brainwashed by persons or things they need or love. Because they don't want to risk "disagreeing" with them. These are emotionally damaged people but that's not your problem. The issue is to determine if you can have a fact-based debate with them, or not. My cousin let go of a long-time friend who came out with pro-Pally sentiments after marrying an anti-Semite. The woman couldn't even explain why she felt the way she did but my cousin knows her husband and his anti-Semitism so it was easy to figure out. This is a woman with a PhD who is ignoring facts and long-time friendships with Jews because she "adores" her new husband and feels insecure about disputing politics with him. Just proves that emotion is stronger than intellect and an insecure person, no matter how high her IQ or what degree she holds - is damaged goods and not worth your time and effort. Not to worry. These people will end up in the dustbin of history; hopefully sooner rather than later.
Good points!
This was really good showing the absurdity of even trying to talk to a Pro-Palestinian. The problem is they wouldn't listen because like the children they are (and adults included) they want you to listen to what they have to say and disregard your facts/opinions. Facts do not exist for them and that's because they have no historical knowledge, nor do they want to learn about it. For me, these are like people who have an addiction, mental problem and no one can force them to get help. It must come from within in order to change or overcome whatever it is they're suffering from. In this case, it's ignorant delusions.
Much of this mind-set comes from the woke dogma they are exposed to. All the "your truth", "my truth" idiocy that considers subjective experience or opinion more accurate than objective, fact-based truth. You can thank the cultural Marxists "marching through Western institutions" (media, academia, politics) all these years for creating a generation of intellectual zombies that would even shock Orwell or Huxley. The Islamists are now benefitting from it.
Agreed. We can thank Qatar and others who have been pumping money into our universities for over twenty years, hiring Marxist professors and in exchange for their "donor" money, creating Middle East Studies, and any other studies they want. I laugh at the "my truth," "lived experiences," but only their, of course.
The Islamo/Marxist alliance has been going on for longer than 20 years. Read this: https://providencemag.com/2023/11/the-new-red-green-alliance-1/
Thanks. I will check it out now.
If the likes are cluttering your inbox, let me know and I will stop.
Thanks for the link.
I always ask/say:
what is the point you're trying to make?
Why are you filled with so much hate?
We live in the freeist place imaginable.
A bunch of Sheeple following Group Think
For a single ideology is dangerous.
Do they even know the history they are arguing against? Or is that racist.?
I suggest they overcome their Library phobia, look for contemporaneous histories which are free from any possible bias since Zionism wasn't even a seed in the pre Zionism 1800's.
Encyclopedia Brittanica would fit the bill, tell you no ethnicity was even five figures, and the resident Arabs were Bedouin, totally separate from settled Arabs, and are hone anywhere and no where and will no doubt move on shortly, makes no mention
of any mythical Fakestinian population and assesses Jewish population as 6K.
And points out the perps of the massacres were Egyptians raiding from Egypt, not a Fakestinian mentioned.
You forgot the most important tactic. Don’t turn your back on this person as you walk away.
That's the advantage of taking it to the Net. It's also why I ceased my former practice of posting under my full name.
Sadly, we do not live in a "agree to disagree" world. It's "agree with me or get the **** outta my face!"
I know you are sincere and mean well. I don’t think it well help.
Another thing you can do is say “Go fuck yourself.” Or if that’s too harsh you can offer assistance: “How can I help you to go fuck yourself?” If those options are too severe, you can say “I’ll be right back. I need to get a checkered tablecloth out of the car and a rubber band to affix it to my head so I can really appreciate your points.” Alternatively you can just smile and walk away to get another drink or find better company. This is like a Black person being forced to justify their existence to Bull Conner. Presumably the person you’re talking to is an otherwise intelligent, educated person with an extra-Hebraic modicum of social skills. This is analogous to the liberal who has TDS, only worse. . You can’t get there from here.
If they actually live under a rock and haven’t seen the sun in decades or know anything about morality, ethics or civilization, , you might cut them some slack.
Most of these people will not change their minds, nor are they interested in what you have to say. If they were, there would be a much bigger uproar over the injustice being meted out to Jews and Israel.
Very well said.
Thank you, Mr. Hoffman.
Surrender is not much of a strategy.
Who said anything about surrender? I’ve been through this many times. All that ends up happening is an argument and nobody changes their mind. It’s the same as Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s a waste of time arguing with a brainwashed person. They don’t care about facts. It’s an emotional response.
If you prefer negativity and don't consider it surrender, that's up to you.
I prefer positivity and do consider it surrender and that's up to me.
Very good. And speaking of women and children, I’m constantly hating/reading about multitudes I of women and children in harms way, exposed to this and that in Gaza. One question. Where are the men, hiding in tunnels?
Jewish wit, humor, irony, satire, intellect, hopefulness in the midst of dire circumstances, power stance of self-definition, ... etc. is alive and well!! Mind you, quite recently I had a VERY brief encounter with a friend-ish person who contacted me out of the blue to 'see how I am doing'? Well my first reaction online was ahem, cough, cough, repressed laughter snort. titter, ... omg-ya-gotta-be-kidding-lemme-guess-what's-coming-next. So after I read the few sentences I replied immediately a la #jews-are-forthright. I established my ground rules to 'dis-gust' the matter: a) any other individual who 'just wants to see how I'm doing' and 'just wants to talk' needs to upfront acknowledge that what happened on Oct 7 was horrible, mean, murderous, violent, disgusting for starters and that there is zero excuse for the heinous acts that were perpetrated on My People inclusive of their Blessed Employees from other nations b) said 'friendly' guised persons must acknowledge that The Jewish People (inclusive of terms such as Ivri/Hebrews and Israelites had been in that Land since at least 3400 years ago and thus are Indigenous and according to my Culture's Oral Tradition We, the Jews/Ivri/Israelites were there prior to the Altar at Shiloh - which notably is only recently subject to a great archaeological excavation. If a and b are openly met it is possible that I might engage in a 'conversation' with someone with a 'different' viewpoint whether they are Jewish or Non-Jewish or Not-So-Jewish or Jewish-anti-Jewish etc. Otherwise I am much more happy to continue living in my own la-la-land of research and learning snippets of Torah via reading, and listening to a range of 'orthodox' Rabbis on youtube etc.
Re Step 3: Before 1948 the Jews were called “Palestinians”. Note the Palestine Philharmonic Orchestra (now the Israel Philharmonic) and the Palestine Post (now the Jerusalem Post).
Excellent advice!
Hi Bernie, let’s please try to refrain from making comments that are related to violence and incitement. Thank you. 🙏