You’re absolutely right, John! The left abandoned Israel after the Six-Day War in 1967 when Israel officially emerged as a regional power and conquered a good deal of land. The left abandoned the Jews because A) They were no longer victims anymore and B) They well for Soviet propaganda which stated the Palestinians were oppressed people and the Jews were evil white settler colonists. The left doesn’t understand Israel at all. Israel isn’t an ethno-state nor a settler-colonial state nor an apartheid state. Israel is a Jewish and multicultural state where all people have equal rights. Israel is the best place in the Middle East for women, minorities, LGBTQ+ people, disabled people, and Christians. Israel is a world leader in protecting the environment and humane treatment of animals. Palestinians can even get Israeli citizenship if they want it many just don’t bother to get it. It’s every liberal’s dream! Meanwhile, in the Palestinian Territories women are second-class citizens, gay people are socially ostracized or even murdered, black people and Christians face systemic discrimination, slavery is still practiced, and disabled people are neglected and abused. Israel has a sterling human rights record, the West Bank and Gaza…not so much. The Israeli occupation of the West Bank is no apartheid. Palestinians can work in Israel for four times the wages they would earn at home, get free medical care from the IDF, marry Israelis if they so choose, become Israeli citizens, have a degree of self-government, Jewish settler terrorists who attack Palestinians are arrested and thrown in jail, and illegal Jewish settlements built on Palestinian land are torn down.
The occupation of the West Bank has its flaws too be sure. For Palestinians the occupation has come with oppression, brutality, injustices, atrocities, censorship, and torture. To be sure, Israel has been no angel in the West Bank anymore than the European countries or the United States have been an angel in places they colonized or occupied. But overall the occupation has been done humanely and is legal under international law. West Bank Palestinians are treated much better than blacks, Coloureds and Asians in South Africa ever were. It’s insulting to compare a nation built by Holocaust survivors and immigrants to one of the most evil regimes in history and it diminishes the suffering of those black, Coloured and Asian South Africans who suffered under the real apartheid! There is NO comparison between the two states. All people regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or sex have equal rights in Israel. Not so in Apartheid South Africa where whites were privileged above everybody else. Apartheid South Africa was a very patriarchal society where men were the clear head of the household. In Israel, women have full equality with men. LGBT people and disabled people were treated brutality in Apartheid South Africa. In Israel, LGBT people have almost every right they deserve, same-sex marriages performed abroad are recognized and openly LGBT people serve in the Knesset. Disabled people receive every accommodation they might need, are protected from discrimination by law and there are affirmative action programs for them.
The hate that Jihadists and radical leftists spew to today is the same hate propagated by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s just dressed up in the language of social justice. There is no doubt about the fact that antizionism is antisemitism. I urge every state in this country to adopt the IHRA definition of antisemitism as soon as possible. Denying Jews the right to have a state is antisemitic period. Nor does adopting the resolution stifle free speech or legitimate criticism of Israel. Nor does antizionism equal criticism of Israel. The latter is not hateful at all, the former is definitely hateful. Are all anti-Zionists antisemitic? Not at all. But they are badly misinformed or misguided. The left needs to take a balanced stance on the Israel-Palestine Conflict and support coexistence between the two peoples and the two-state solution. Zionism needs to become “cool” with liberals again. The Democratic Party also needs to apologize for not standing up for Jewish Americans like they should have after the Gaza War started and antisemitism skyrocketed, same with the Labour Party in Britain. Left-wing political parties across the West need to declare their support for the Jewish state.
Here’s the thing if someone says I hate Jews and I want to kill them all I believe them. If they say I’m a democrat I believe them a republican I believe them. So tell me why when the National German Socialist Workers Party gets put on the right, wrong the NSDAP aka nazi party was always of the left. Flee you fools.
Once Bibi became finance minister and kibbutzim realized communism didn't work, Russia suddenly hated Jews again. Once Israel became the home of God again the Left hated Israel.
I am a public school teacher who could no longer support the left after 2021 when I realized they turned on my students of color. Literally destroyed their futures during Covid. If you are black and can’t afford private school, you should move from California and mass to Mississippi and Louisiana if you don’t want your kids to be illiterate.
What an ignorant statement. Those states you name are horribly racist and recommending Black folks move there is horrible advice that could get them killed.
Quite revealing that you framed the definition of Left as answering those questions “correctly.” As a conservative I would have answered all those questions exactly the same way. You assume that those on the Right are against equal rights, pro discrimination, and homophobic. Not true. We just don’t believe discriminating against white people will do anything to advance black people. We long ago sounded the alarm about the increasingly blatantly anti-Zionist reporting by the left leaning, and now completely “Progressive” media. But, of course, they ignored us at best and labeled us racist, white supremacist etc. At worst. And now the liberals, at least some of them, are waking up. Took WAY too long!
Liberals (of all stripes) need to abandon the idea of shaming Western Left-liberals by alerting them to the fact that they're supporting theocratic terrorists who oppress women, gays, political opponents and who have no conception of civil or human rights. It's not going to work.
Western liberals have created a fictional fantastical entity they call "The Palestinians" and this idealized symbolic people have been placed in the top spot on the Social Justice hierarchy of sacred victims. And the purpose of this ideology and its rituals has NOTHING to do with the actual people and conflict it's pretending to be based on—the real goal is for the Westerner to parade their moral vanity, display how kind, wise and compassionate they are (esp as compared to their political enemies), to appropriate the suffering of distant strangers in the hope of increasing their social and political power—and of course to get a free punch in on the Jews, which is always a popular activity.
No matter what charge you level against Hamas and its backers, you'll only ever get the same simplistic response: anything they do or don't do is Israel's fault, even their massacres (the righteous cry of the oppressed). Israel needs to make more concessions, provide more aid, agree to any and every ceasefire, Israel is ENTIRELY responsible for the conflict and must be punished and shamed for its existence.
Those of us raised in the 20th century need to accept the new reality: the liberal West is now post-liberal and all the old institutions have been captured by the Social Justice faith, which turns Jews into "white Oppressors" and Israel into a cross bw apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany and the British Empire. The liberalism of our youth is dead and buried and and all its old venerable institutions—NYT NPR BBC AP Harvard and the Ivy League and now the Democratic Party—have made it very clear that they have no sympathy or concern for Jews and Israel and won't lift a finger to protect them. Modern Left-liberals and their orgs and institutions have clearly made themselves into opponents of Jews and Israel and they all need to be treated as enemies.
Today's left is not remotely liberal; they are closer to being neo-nazis and they are certainly totalitarian marxists. So, I doubt they are struggling over this supposed moral dilemma.
"all the core tenets that any self-respecting Left-wing liberal holds dear. So, in that respect, they face a tremendous dichotomy, with one part of their aims directly at odds with all the others".
Thank you!! I’m Left, I still am and will always be. But I do feel alone in my support of Israel (I am Jewish, but even so; I would still support if I wasn’t), and it blows my mind that people on the left just gobble up that Palestinian (and Russian) propaganda. I just don’t get it.
With 57 countries worldwide where Islam is the majority and/or state religion, it is completely incomprehensible how anyone can use the word "Islamophobia." It is not "Islamophobia"—it is the perception of the unalterable reality of Islam.
This label shifts the blame for this reality onto the observer instead of the perpetrator.
Furthermore going with this, you continue to spread a romanticized and completely false view of "leftists" (with or without the addition of "liberal"): being "left-wing" has NEVER included what you list—"left" has ALWAYS meant and WILL ALWAYS mean: "Marxism“ in its worst form - Totalitarianism. The „Dictatorship of the Proletariat“. There can be no „Marxism light“, with „human rights“.
Rather, for „Marxism“, „Human Rights“ go as an „invention of the Bourgeois“. See „French Revolution“ > „Jakobenean“ > 1793 > this kind of total, merciless annihilation is the first blueprint for the Shoah and the total annihilation of Jews. It points directly to Oświęcim/Auschwitz.
Though, this is not even what Karl Marx originally had ever intended. He did not want a "dictatorship" of the "proletariat" but rather its EDUCATION and TRAINING ! He did not want to „replace“/ eradicate Enterprisers but wanted to open enterprisal values to „the workers“ !
However, because most people, the wonderful "majority", prefer to remain stupid, and "learning" is not "popular", he was unsuccessful with it... therefore, at some point, he joined the so-called "revolution" in order to finally have a little "recognition" and "success“.
And THAT became (known as) "Marxism": a (fatal) "misunderstanding"... and unfortunately, a disastrous and deadly one.
To this day, "Marxists" are allowed to immediately threaten any freedom with "expropriation" "nationalization" and "social security contributions"—without any obligation to EVALUATE the EFFECT of these measures or assess their effectiveness, as is the case, for example, in a functioning economy.
They are allowed to spend trillions without any proof of their purpose, direction, or effectiveness.
In short: what you list as "left-wing," all these "ideals": they are NOT and NOWHERE "left-wing“. They are simply genuinely "liberal," freedom-oriented, and freedom is hard work, and therefore not „popular“.
As long as you try to contribute these freedom values to „The Left“, you have no tools and ideas to defend LIBERTY and FREEDOM = HUMANITY against its enemies of which „Leftists“ are among the prominent ones and on their forefront.
Finally let go of your regret about not belonging to the "left" It was never right and never real.
And Jews, in particular, have played a very significant role in the development of this "liberalism," especially because their religion is one of incessant questioning, a reflection of the fact that humankind knows nothing and is only confronted with questions.
And that humans can believe in a „G*d," but cannot say what „It" is.
And that humans also have the freedom to say „NO!" to „G*d" and what he allegedly „demands“, to reject what „It" (apparently) commands them to do.
"Jewishness" IS the "revolution," the "permanent" one. And: the self-determined one.
Jews don't need a "revolution" imposed "from above."
All of this is completely alien to Islam, and unfortunately also to "Christianity," as long as it forgets its genuinely Jewish roots.
For sure, there are idiots among Jews, too (Marx of course was a Jew, too - he wasn't stupid, but poor and dependent, and misled by the desire for "recognition").
Idiots exist everywhere; they are "the majority“.
They are the ones who are unfortunately allowed to "decide elections.“
However, it also depends, and especially so, on who "the people" are, what they are like, and how educated they are.
There is only one "people" in the world that can be trusted in this regard. And what do you think which one should it be ?
Therefore above all, Israel is worth preserving and must be preserved under all circumstances.
It represents more or less ALL of what „The West“ is, or should be, fighting for.
According to what you're saying, you haven't really "left" being "left," but you want or pretend to abandon the misconception of what "left" is supposed to be.
But - or because - what you describe as "left“ has NEVER been "left," but rather, being "left" means exactly what Karl Marx ultimately agreed to in order to achieve "success": "dictatorship." Totalitarianism. Utter lack of freedom.
The exact opposite of what Jews, Judaism, stand for.
The supposed "love"/"sympathy" of "leftists" for Jews and Israel was never more than a mistake.
Jews were "interesting" to them as long as they could be considered "victims," after the Shoah, until 1967.
But "real leftists“, core "Marxists" were Jew-haters and have always stayed such long before that. They sided with the Soviet propaganda that hated Jews.
And it's also "forgotten" that the German "socialists"/"communists" before the beginning of the "Third Reich" were by no means "friends of the Jews,“
but actively participated in Hitler's incitement of hatred.
How can you forget all this or not (want to) know?
I can understand how much it can hurt to „love“ falsely.
THIS is the reason why "leftists" "love" the "Palestinians" and "Islam" in such a grotesque, absurd way, supposedly in a way that "violates their values": they are UNITED in their HATE against "capitalism," against ALL freedom, not just against the free market!
They have collectively forgotten what Marx also forgot. What they "forgot" in order to achieve "success" is that "capitalism" simply DOESN'T EXIST as an „established“ something!
That "capitalism" can only be as good or bad as "the people" are educated or uneducated, as capable as they are of critically evaluating "products." If "the people" are STUPID, then they eat crap and aren't "critical of consumption" because that's „strenuous“.
While „Socialism“ never can achieve anything of that because the pursuit of knowledge and development can only ever originate from and be developed by the individual,
and can only be slowed down, destroyed, rendered ineffective by the "collective".
That it's not "capitalism" not the "free market" that is inherently bad—Karl Marx recognized this initially, in his "romantic" phase... so-called "romanticism" isn't something detached from reality, something Biedermeier-like, from which every form of free, "dangerous" thought has been purged, but rather it IS "revolution" and "evolution" in one.
Just as when we love "romantically," when "everything" seems new and "everything is possible": THAT is what "Marxism" originally was, which then became so perverted. It became clear that it wasn't developed for self-empowerment, for clear thinking, but rather for external control, as an instrument of power for a ruling clique.
And that simply didn't fit with Israel, with Judaism; therefore, the supposed "love" of so-called "leftists" was always a fatal mistake.
I, too, was once—like most young people—an idiot, and I BELIEVED (!) that I was "left-wing."
But from the very beginning, I had more and more constant arguments with no one than with its leading figures. Rigid "leftists" ALWAYS need a VICTIM, someone they can see as "disadvantaged" and whom they want to "help," or rather, "think" they "have to“. I have never been available for that, and "the Jews" or Israel even less so, „even“ with „Leftists“ such as Golda Meir.
Being "left-wing" and Jewish: that doesn't go together. LEAVE IT ALONE !
As long as you believe that "leftists" ever actually possessed the "values" you list, you will mourn their loss and "regret" that "the leftists" have abandoned you. Sorry, just SHIT on them !
No one in its right mind of clear thinking can mourn what "leftists" REALLY want and BRUTALLY ENSURE against ALL freedom.
Yet, there are always enough idiots who fall for the hypocritical whining of so-called "Palestinians" or the "sympathetic grin" of a Mamdani.
Likewise, as long as you continue to use terms like "Islamophobia", you have not truly distanced yourself from the misfortune of not wanting to fully perceive reality and of not recognizing and naming the criminals and the crime, instead of openly or indirectly blaming the victims and not encouraging the (potential) victims to resist what truly and actually threatens them.
Perceiving „Islam“ as what it IS and WILL always BE and what is indelibly inscribed in its „Holy Book", can be no „phobia“. It is CLARITY.
Capitalism or free enterprise, as cruel and devastating as it often has effected, can always change for the better if people take part in it and WANT something better.
Even „Christianity“, as cruel, demanding totalitarian authority and destructive it has been, has a core of gentleness, encounter, respect and mindfulness - which but more or less
is „Jewish“ -, while Islam simply has not. Rather that is why Muslims HATE Jews: they always „contradict“ and are „cheeky“, while Muslims wail for their ADORED „Imam“s and their „Alllaaaaah“.
FUCK IT !!!!!!
There have been and continue to be attempts to „interpret“ or praise Islam as an allegedly peace-loving, tolerant, all-encompassing and prudent religion, but it is no coincidence that all such "interpretations" have failed and were and continue to be brutally persecuted.
It was founded as a domineering, tolerant master-race, conquest- and enslavement-oriented pseudo-“religion”, a SCOURGE of humanity.
Like the plague, cholera, polio, measles, and many other evils, it must be eradicated through education, research, and earnest, unwavering effort -
but certainly never by accusing those with legitimate fears of "Islamophobia".
You’re absolutely right, John! The left abandoned Israel after the Six-Day War in 1967 when Israel officially emerged as a regional power and conquered a good deal of land. The left abandoned the Jews because A) They were no longer victims anymore and B) They well for Soviet propaganda which stated the Palestinians were oppressed people and the Jews were evil white settler colonists. The left doesn’t understand Israel at all. Israel isn’t an ethno-state nor a settler-colonial state nor an apartheid state. Israel is a Jewish and multicultural state where all people have equal rights. Israel is the best place in the Middle East for women, minorities, LGBTQ+ people, disabled people, and Christians. Israel is a world leader in protecting the environment and humane treatment of animals. Palestinians can even get Israeli citizenship if they want it many just don’t bother to get it. It’s every liberal’s dream! Meanwhile, in the Palestinian Territories women are second-class citizens, gay people are socially ostracized or even murdered, black people and Christians face systemic discrimination, slavery is still practiced, and disabled people are neglected and abused. Israel has a sterling human rights record, the West Bank and Gaza…not so much. The Israeli occupation of the West Bank is no apartheid. Palestinians can work in Israel for four times the wages they would earn at home, get free medical care from the IDF, marry Israelis if they so choose, become Israeli citizens, have a degree of self-government, Jewish settler terrorists who attack Palestinians are arrested and thrown in jail, and illegal Jewish settlements built on Palestinian land are torn down.
The occupation of the West Bank has its flaws too be sure. For Palestinians the occupation has come with oppression, brutality, injustices, atrocities, censorship, and torture. To be sure, Israel has been no angel in the West Bank anymore than the European countries or the United States have been an angel in places they colonized or occupied. But overall the occupation has been done humanely and is legal under international law. West Bank Palestinians are treated much better than blacks, Coloureds and Asians in South Africa ever were. It’s insulting to compare a nation built by Holocaust survivors and immigrants to one of the most evil regimes in history and it diminishes the suffering of those black, Coloured and Asian South Africans who suffered under the real apartheid! There is NO comparison between the two states. All people regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or sex have equal rights in Israel. Not so in Apartheid South Africa where whites were privileged above everybody else. Apartheid South Africa was a very patriarchal society where men were the clear head of the household. In Israel, women have full equality with men. LGBT people and disabled people were treated brutality in Apartheid South Africa. In Israel, LGBT people have almost every right they deserve, same-sex marriages performed abroad are recognized and openly LGBT people serve in the Knesset. Disabled people receive every accommodation they might need, are protected from discrimination by law and there are affirmative action programs for them.
The hate that Jihadists and radical leftists spew to today is the same hate propagated by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s just dressed up in the language of social justice. There is no doubt about the fact that antizionism is antisemitism. I urge every state in this country to adopt the IHRA definition of antisemitism as soon as possible. Denying Jews the right to have a state is antisemitic period. Nor does adopting the resolution stifle free speech or legitimate criticism of Israel. Nor does antizionism equal criticism of Israel. The latter is not hateful at all, the former is definitely hateful. Are all anti-Zionists antisemitic? Not at all. But they are badly misinformed or misguided. The left needs to take a balanced stance on the Israel-Palestine Conflict and support coexistence between the two peoples and the two-state solution. Zionism needs to become “cool” with liberals again. The Democratic Party also needs to apologize for not standing up for Jewish Americans like they should have after the Gaza War started and antisemitism skyrocketed, same with the Labour Party in Britain. Left-wing political parties across the West need to declare their support for the Jewish state.
I love this comment & hope you don’t mind if I restack it.
No, I don’t mind, thank you for restocking it, Ruth! :)
Never in history as a group been less deserving of sympathy and international support than the Palestinian Arabs. And yet no group seems to have more.
Here’s the thing if someone says I hate Jews and I want to kill them all I believe them. If they say I’m a democrat I believe them a republican I believe them. So tell me why when the National German Socialist Workers Party gets put on the right, wrong the NSDAP aka nazi party was always of the left. Flee you fools.
Once Bibi became finance minister and kibbutzim realized communism didn't work, Russia suddenly hated Jews again. Once Israel became the home of God again the Left hated Israel.
I am a public school teacher who could no longer support the left after 2021 when I realized they turned on my students of color. Literally destroyed their futures during Covid. If you are black and can’t afford private school, you should move from California and mass to Mississippi and Louisiana if you don’t want your kids to be illiterate.
What an ignorant statement. Those states you name are horribly racist and recommending Black folks move there is horrible advice that could get them killed.
I believed the same thing until I saw what blue states did to my own students and then looked at the actual data. Please look for yourself.
Quite revealing that you framed the definition of Left as answering those questions “correctly.” As a conservative I would have answered all those questions exactly the same way. You assume that those on the Right are against equal rights, pro discrimination, and homophobic. Not true. We just don’t believe discriminating against white people will do anything to advance black people. We long ago sounded the alarm about the increasingly blatantly anti-Zionist reporting by the left leaning, and now completely “Progressive” media. But, of course, they ignored us at best and labeled us racist, white supremacist etc. At worst. And now the liberals, at least some of them, are waking up. Took WAY too long!
Liberals (of all stripes) need to abandon the idea of shaming Western Left-liberals by alerting them to the fact that they're supporting theocratic terrorists who oppress women, gays, political opponents and who have no conception of civil or human rights. It's not going to work.
Western liberals have created a fictional fantastical entity they call "The Palestinians" and this idealized symbolic people have been placed in the top spot on the Social Justice hierarchy of sacred victims. And the purpose of this ideology and its rituals has NOTHING to do with the actual people and conflict it's pretending to be based on—the real goal is for the Westerner to parade their moral vanity, display how kind, wise and compassionate they are (esp as compared to their political enemies), to appropriate the suffering of distant strangers in the hope of increasing their social and political power—and of course to get a free punch in on the Jews, which is always a popular activity.
No matter what charge you level against Hamas and its backers, you'll only ever get the same simplistic response: anything they do or don't do is Israel's fault, even their massacres (the righteous cry of the oppressed). Israel needs to make more concessions, provide more aid, agree to any and every ceasefire, Israel is ENTIRELY responsible for the conflict and must be punished and shamed for its existence.
Those of us raised in the 20th century need to accept the new reality: the liberal West is now post-liberal and all the old institutions have been captured by the Social Justice faith, which turns Jews into "white Oppressors" and Israel into a cross bw apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany and the British Empire. The liberalism of our youth is dead and buried and and all its old venerable institutions—NYT NPR BBC AP Harvard and the Ivy League and now the Democratic Party—have made it very clear that they have no sympathy or concern for Jews and Israel and won't lift a finger to protect them. Modern Left-liberals and their orgs and institutions have clearly made themselves into opponents of Jews and Israel and they all need to be treated as enemies.
Today's left is not remotely liberal; they are closer to being neo-nazis and they are certainly totalitarian marxists. So, I doubt they are struggling over this supposed moral dilemma.
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"all the core tenets that any self-respecting Left-wing liberal holds dear. So, in that respect, they face a tremendous dichotomy, with one part of their aims directly at odds with all the others".
Thank you!! I’m Left, I still am and will always be. But I do feel alone in my support of Israel (I am Jewish, but even so; I would still support if I wasn’t), and it blows my mind that people on the left just gobble up that Palestinian (and Russian) propaganda. I just don’t get it.
With 57 countries worldwide where Islam is the majority and/or state religion, it is completely incomprehensible how anyone can use the word "Islamophobia." It is not "Islamophobia"—it is the perception of the unalterable reality of Islam.
This label shifts the blame for this reality onto the observer instead of the perpetrator.
Furthermore going with this, you continue to spread a romanticized and completely false view of "leftists" (with or without the addition of "liberal"): being "left-wing" has NEVER included what you list—"left" has ALWAYS meant and WILL ALWAYS mean: "Marxism“ in its worst form - Totalitarianism. The „Dictatorship of the Proletariat“. There can be no „Marxism light“, with „human rights“.
Rather, for „Marxism“, „Human Rights“ go as an „invention of the Bourgeois“. See „French Revolution“ > „Jakobenean“ > 1793 > this kind of total, merciless annihilation is the first blueprint for the Shoah and the total annihilation of Jews. It points directly to Oświęcim/Auschwitz.
Though, this is not even what Karl Marx originally had ever intended. He did not want a "dictatorship" of the "proletariat" but rather its EDUCATION and TRAINING ! He did not want to „replace“/ eradicate Enterprisers but wanted to open enterprisal values to „the workers“ !
However, because most people, the wonderful "majority", prefer to remain stupid, and "learning" is not "popular", he was unsuccessful with it... therefore, at some point, he joined the so-called "revolution" in order to finally have a little "recognition" and "success“.
And THAT became (known as) "Marxism": a (fatal) "misunderstanding"... and unfortunately, a disastrous and deadly one.
To this day, "Marxists" are allowed to immediately threaten any freedom with "expropriation" "nationalization" and "social security contributions"—without any obligation to EVALUATE the EFFECT of these measures or assess their effectiveness, as is the case, for example, in a functioning economy.
They are allowed to spend trillions without any proof of their purpose, direction, or effectiveness.
In short: what you list as "left-wing," all these "ideals": they are NOT and NOWHERE "left-wing“. They are simply genuinely "liberal," freedom-oriented, and freedom is hard work, and therefore not „popular“.
As long as you try to contribute these freedom values to „The Left“, you have no tools and ideas to defend LIBERTY and FREEDOM = HUMANITY against its enemies of which „Leftists“ are among the prominent ones and on their forefront.
Finally let go of your regret about not belonging to the "left" It was never right and never real.
And Jews, in particular, have played a very significant role in the development of this "liberalism," especially because their religion is one of incessant questioning, a reflection of the fact that humankind knows nothing and is only confronted with questions.
And that humans can believe in a „G*d," but cannot say what „It" is.
And that humans also have the freedom to say „NO!" to „G*d" and what he allegedly „demands“, to reject what „It" (apparently) commands them to do.
"Jewishness" IS the "revolution," the "permanent" one. And: the self-determined one.
Jews don't need a "revolution" imposed "from above."
All of this is completely alien to Islam, and unfortunately also to "Christianity," as long as it forgets its genuinely Jewish roots.
For sure, there are idiots among Jews, too (Marx of course was a Jew, too - he wasn't stupid, but poor and dependent, and misled by the desire for "recognition").
Idiots exist everywhere; they are "the majority“.
They are the ones who are unfortunately allowed to "decide elections.“
However, it also depends, and especially so, on who "the people" are, what they are like, and how educated they are.
There is only one "people" in the world that can be trusted in this regard. And what do you think which one should it be ?
Therefore above all, Israel is worth preserving and must be preserved under all circumstances.
It represents more or less ALL of what „The West“ is, or should be, fighting for.
According to what you're saying, you haven't really "left" being "left," but you want or pretend to abandon the misconception of what "left" is supposed to be.
But - or because - what you describe as "left“ has NEVER been "left," but rather, being "left" means exactly what Karl Marx ultimately agreed to in order to achieve "success": "dictatorship." Totalitarianism. Utter lack of freedom.
The exact opposite of what Jews, Judaism, stand for.
The supposed "love"/"sympathy" of "leftists" for Jews and Israel was never more than a mistake.
Jews were "interesting" to them as long as they could be considered "victims," after the Shoah, until 1967.
But "real leftists“, core "Marxists" were Jew-haters and have always stayed such long before that. They sided with the Soviet propaganda that hated Jews.
And it's also "forgotten" that the German "socialists"/"communists" before the beginning of the "Third Reich" were by no means "friends of the Jews,“
but actively participated in Hitler's incitement of hatred.
How can you forget all this or not (want to) know?
I can understand how much it can hurt to „love“ falsely.
THIS is the reason why "leftists" "love" the "Palestinians" and "Islam" in such a grotesque, absurd way, supposedly in a way that "violates their values": they are UNITED in their HATE against "capitalism," against ALL freedom, not just against the free market!
They have collectively forgotten what Marx also forgot. What they "forgot" in order to achieve "success" is that "capitalism" simply DOESN'T EXIST as an „established“ something!
That "capitalism" can only be as good or bad as "the people" are educated or uneducated, as capable as they are of critically evaluating "products." If "the people" are STUPID, then they eat crap and aren't "critical of consumption" because that's „strenuous“.
While „Socialism“ never can achieve anything of that because the pursuit of knowledge and development can only ever originate from and be developed by the individual,
and can only be slowed down, destroyed, rendered ineffective by the "collective".
That it's not "capitalism" not the "free market" that is inherently bad—Karl Marx recognized this initially, in his "romantic" phase... so-called "romanticism" isn't something detached from reality, something Biedermeier-like, from which every form of free, "dangerous" thought has been purged, but rather it IS "revolution" and "evolution" in one.
Just as when we love "romantically," when "everything" seems new and "everything is possible": THAT is what "Marxism" originally was, which then became so perverted. It became clear that it wasn't developed for self-empowerment, for clear thinking, but rather for external control, as an instrument of power for a ruling clique.
And that simply didn't fit with Israel, with Judaism; therefore, the supposed "love" of so-called "leftists" was always a fatal mistake.
I, too, was once—like most young people—an idiot, and I BELIEVED (!) that I was "left-wing."
But from the very beginning, I had more and more constant arguments with no one than with its leading figures. Rigid "leftists" ALWAYS need a VICTIM, someone they can see as "disadvantaged" and whom they want to "help," or rather, "think" they "have to“. I have never been available for that, and "the Jews" or Israel even less so, „even“ with „Leftists“ such as Golda Meir.
Being "left-wing" and Jewish: that doesn't go together. LEAVE IT ALONE !
As long as you believe that "leftists" ever actually possessed the "values" you list, you will mourn their loss and "regret" that "the leftists" have abandoned you. Sorry, just SHIT on them !
No one in its right mind of clear thinking can mourn what "leftists" REALLY want and BRUTALLY ENSURE against ALL freedom.
Yet, there are always enough idiots who fall for the hypocritical whining of so-called "Palestinians" or the "sympathetic grin" of a Mamdani.
Likewise, as long as you continue to use terms like "Islamophobia", you have not truly distanced yourself from the misfortune of not wanting to fully perceive reality and of not recognizing and naming the criminals and the crime, instead of openly or indirectly blaming the victims and not encouraging the (potential) victims to resist what truly and actually threatens them.
Perceiving „Islam“ as what it IS and WILL always BE and what is indelibly inscribed in its „Holy Book", can be no „phobia“. It is CLARITY.
Capitalism or free enterprise, as cruel and devastating as it often has effected, can always change for the better if people take part in it and WANT something better.
Even „Christianity“, as cruel, demanding totalitarian authority and destructive it has been, has a core of gentleness, encounter, respect and mindfulness - which but more or less
is „Jewish“ -, while Islam simply has not. Rather that is why Muslims HATE Jews: they always „contradict“ and are „cheeky“, while Muslims wail for their ADORED „Imam“s and their „Alllaaaaah“.
FUCK IT !!!!!!
There have been and continue to be attempts to „interpret“ or praise Islam as an allegedly peace-loving, tolerant, all-encompassing and prudent religion, but it is no coincidence that all such "interpretations" have failed and were and continue to be brutally persecuted.
It was founded as a domineering, tolerant master-race, conquest- and enslavement-oriented pseudo-“religion”, a SCOURGE of humanity.
Like the plague, cholera, polio, measles, and many other evils, it must be eradicated through education, research, and earnest, unwavering effort -
but certainly never by accusing those with legitimate fears of "Islamophobia".