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George Shay's avatar

As a Christian recently converted to Zionism, I can tell you that I think that, as an outsider looking in, this is a huge issue. A case in point is the fact that so many Jews in New York voted for Zohran Mamdani! Israeli and Jewish politics are really divided. That makes the task of opposing anti-Zionism and antisemitism all the more challenging.

George Shay's avatar

Thanks for the welcome. Good to be here.

Sally Simon's avatar

Welcome to the tribe! It's nice to have you. I completely agree with you, George, that Judaism needs an update, beyond Tukon Olom, beyond the Holocaust, and into Jewish Joy. We have some incredible ways of celebrating it. Joshua makes some amazing points. Personalizing Israel is key. It makes it relatable. Many young people are also looking into spirituality, and our faith offers some very moving Kabbalah meditation, books, and physical holy places to visit once you get there. Connecting with people changes you in profound ways.

Freedom Lover's avatar

The Jews that voted for Mamdani are ideological haters of Israel and Jewish nationalism. There is nothing we can do to keep them. But it was only 30 percent of New York Jews.

Barbara Panken's avatar

Brilliant. Thank you!!!!!!!

ASP's avatar

It should go without saying that students should know Jewish and Israeli history as more than the litany of its travails. But it seems that Hoffman's antidote is a variation on "Look who's Jewish in show business/ sports/ politics, etc." Somewhere between the real need to know how to defend Israel and experience its natural charms and cultural vibrancy lies the vast treasure of Jewish values, ideas, and achievements, that are absent from the lessons our children are taught about every other culture except their own.

Let's face it - we are doing a terrible job of educating our children. A trip to Israel - assuming that happens - is insufficient. A "religious" education that looks mainly to preparing a student to learn the trope for a bar or bat mitzvah ceremony followed by an unrelated secular celebration is unlikely to clothe that child in the knowledge and pride that will be needed to face an indifferent or hostile world. Or to be able to raise another generation with substantive Jewish values .

We need imaginative ways to make alternative education available to almost every Jewish child. In this age of limitless internet options and educational alternatives, it shouldn't cost a fortune to provide broad education to every Jewish child. We don't need a single brick in another structure. Every penny should be invested in the only structures that will assure a strong Jewish future - children.

We have failed spectacularly. We need to massively reallocate our priorities and our resources. We need bold new ways of thinking instead of wringing our hands about what not's working and seek what will

Jewish Grandmother's avatar

You make fabulous points, as always, Joshua. It’s such a loveable country and we sometimes miss that point. Thank you for mentioning Classical Music, and I’m sure you must have said something about the wonderful writers coming from Israel. As a gift to myself on the occasion of my 80th birthday, I’m headed that way in early January to help celebrate the Israel Philharmonic’s 90th birthday. I am still discovering new writers to love, and enjoying access to the films via ChaiFlicks. Israel truly offers something for everyone.

Tracy Carr's avatar

YOU CANNOT

COMMIT GENOCIDE AND THEN HIDE

BEHIND

ANTISEMITISM AND HOLOCAUST.

Freedom Lover's avatar

I loved Israel long before I ever set foot in it. I loved and love it because it is the nation state of the Jewish people, my people. And I love it because it is a lovely place filled with wonderful people. But I don't have a fantasy view of it like many old time liberals do and I don't think its perfect. Who or what is? I agree we need to teach young Jews differently about it. I think Evangelical Christians understand and adore Israel more than most American Jews do. It is a wonderful place.

Myra Adirim's avatar

I do agree Joshua. Knowledge is important of course but an emotional attachment of some kind seals the deal! It's not enough to visit just once either and expect to be blown away! There needs to be follow up after the visit and interaction with a young community of like minded Jewish adolescents.

Rachel A Listener's avatar

This is true. Someone once tried to convince me to visit Germany; I responded, “Who wants to go there!?”

shoshanna's avatar

Thank you Joshua especially for the picture of Maccabi Tel Aviv team and Tal Brodie ala 1976!

Liat Kirby's avatar

I think if you were to speak with President Isaac Herzog, who visited Australia earlier this year to meet with Jews in Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne (particularly with the Bondi massacre in mind), you would find a very different perspective on Jewish education in the Diaspora. He and his wife visited some Jewish schools, where he took away an impression of great warmth, enthusiasm and knowledge of modern Israel displayed. He was so pleased to find such a strong, unified Jewish community.

We need all of it: knowledge of antiquity and history from thereon as a foundational building block, knowledge and experience of tradition and culture, and ongoing knowledge of what it is to be in Israel today.

Yaaqoub Eliyyahu's avatar

Because 85% of the so-called jews in America are atheists! 🤨