I say, give it chance to work. If the hostages are not released, Trump has said the war is back on. If the hostages are released, and Hamas pulls a fast one, the war is back on.
Once the hostages are released, Hamas has no leverage left.
Let this play out.
By the way if Trump wanted a Nobel Peace Prize he would never have sent B-2 Bombers to wipe out Iran's nuclear program. He would not have told the US Navy to blow up the Venezuelan drug boats. That Iran bombing may have rightly won many friends in Israel as it should, but not with the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize voters.
I don’t agree at all. Trump and Netanyahu have both said that the deal is off if Hamas does not disarm. Let’s get our hostages back and see what Hamas does. If they hem and haw and play for more time, Israel will turn Gaza into glass and kill every last Hamas terrorist, no matter the civilian cost.
The Nobel Peace Prize is a farce. History proves Trump is the most consistent peacemaker ever to occupy the White House. His actions stem from an inner drive, not a quest for fame.
Trump’s reputation is on the line. He said if the hostages were not ALL released and Hamas disarmed , laying down their arms of war, something bad, real bad was going to happen.
I have supported Donald J Trump from the beginning of MAGA , but here is where I draw the line, if he betrays Israel.
Hamas is the terrorist entity, not Israel. If Hamas lays down their arms, there is Peace, if Israel lays down their arms, the terror continues, world wide!!!
Perhaps this conclusion is premature... Let's pray that you are wrong, and we should be able to conclude very soon. I agree with the peace prize comment, however. If Hamas survives in any way, then we will know. Additionally, deradicalizing the Palestinians is a must, and will take decades!
<< narcissistic lunacy >> : is the only thing Trump has ever perpetrated.
<< that Netanyahu did not see that coming >> : I don´t think so. Rather he sees the unfulfillabilities, contradictions, incompleteness in Trump's delusional and compulsive actions, and that the nonsense cannot last, time will show. But if he acts against this now when the world is drunk from that shiity "peace plan", it will fall back on Israel.
There are so many things unclear in that glorious "peace plan"; ambiguities and pitfalls that the Wittkoffs are too stupid to foresee, solve or even understand.
<< making the return of the hostages the most important issue >> is the priority of the Israel "opposition" and the "peace"niks that brought us to Oct 07
How widely stupid and incompetent Trump is, should have been clear since his ineffective and senseless blathering with Putin at the latest, where significant allies are needed and must be integrated, which is, however, completely alien to an egomaniac like Trump.
For Trump‘s sake and his brothers in Qatar, he did the foreseeable, Nethanyahu didn’t see coming, as he didn’t recognise Hamas for what it was before the 07 October 2023, a mortal necrophile danger.
Israel is the birthplace of the concept „rule of law“. Let the Israeli courts judge, what has to be judged - there is no need for international courts.
The trumpian snake egg deal, is nothing more. The lies and propaganda MUST be uncovered, for the sake of western civilisation. Trump is a danger for all he touches.
The language of Compromise, made explicit in the Language of Diplomacy, is necessary at this stage of the Gaza war. Trump’s maximalist language is also required, to get The Arabs on board and to pressure Hamas at the negotiating table. But this is all these things are: Language. Believe you me, no-one in the Militaries of The West have forgotten the Monster which is Islamist Hamas, and the Long double-game which The Muslim Brotherhood and Wahhabist Saudi Arabia is playing with both Europe and The West, to take Europe Militarily and Demographically. And nor has the Excellent President Trump.
There is no compromise. Unless Israel finishes off Hamas and leaves nothing left, Hamas will claim victory, something that will not be palatable to Israel.
If Trump gets the Nobel prize we will know we were betrayed. Friends of the US are never awarded it. It fact, it's a disqualifier. Hating America is a prerequisite. So. We'll know.
Brutal an' the best bitter trooth pill I've seen onnit...agree fully...near-despair.... an' ya know what?
this might NOT be even the victory of the hostage movement (goosed by Qatar....some say). Nope. HamAss is sayin' they don't have access....cannot find....cannot locate. This is nothin' less than....obscene.... (but yer writin' this piece, much appreciated)
ps all this said--duz not mean we've lost / given up "the ghost" but I think that this is more in the realm of hashem an' Israel "herself" than in the hands of the the Ahrt of the Deal-maker...jus' sayin'
Israel seems to like the deal:
https://www.jns.org/tel-aviv-stocks-soar-to-new-highs-on-optimism-over-gaza-plan/
I say, give it chance to work. If the hostages are not released, Trump has said the war is back on. If the hostages are released, and Hamas pulls a fast one, the war is back on.
Once the hostages are released, Hamas has no leverage left.
Let this play out.
By the way if Trump wanted a Nobel Peace Prize he would never have sent B-2 Bombers to wipe out Iran's nuclear program. He would not have told the US Navy to blow up the Venezuelan drug boats. That Iran bombing may have rightly won many friends in Israel as it should, but not with the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize voters.
I agree with you.
Sooo, it played out. Now what?
Israel gets the hostages back.
We can only hope and pray.
Agree 100%
It's no way near played out, yet.
Do you know who Caroline Glick is? She's an adviser to PM Netanyahu. I have read her book - One State Solution and she is wicked smart.
This is a new short video of her thoughts in an interview - please watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLbJUbKNLAo
True! But 'the deadlines' have already been passed twice! Now what, I repeat?
I don’t agree at all. Trump and Netanyahu have both said that the deal is off if Hamas does not disarm. Let’s get our hostages back and see what Hamas does. If they hem and haw and play for more time, Israel will turn Gaza into glass and kill every last Hamas terrorist, no matter the civilian cost.
You’re referring to the same peace prize that was awarded to Obama for absolutely nothing. I’m not impressed with the prize or its rewardees.
The Nobel Peace Prize is a farce. History proves Trump is the most consistent peacemaker ever to occupy the White House. His actions stem from an inner drive, not a quest for fame.
Amen. Nor is Trump.
This is way overwrought and entirely premature.
Trump’s reputation is on the line. He said if the hostages were not ALL released and Hamas disarmed , laying down their arms of war, something bad, real bad was going to happen.
I have supported Donald J Trump from the beginning of MAGA , but here is where I draw the line, if he betrays Israel.
Hamas is the terrorist entity, not Israel. If Hamas lays down their arms, there is Peace, if Israel lays down their arms, the terror continues, world wide!!!
Perhaps this conclusion is premature... Let's pray that you are wrong, and we should be able to conclude very soon. I agree with the peace prize comment, however. If Hamas survives in any way, then we will know. Additionally, deradicalizing the Palestinians is a must, and will take decades!
<< narcissistic lunacy >> : is the only thing Trump has ever perpetrated.
<< that Netanyahu did not see that coming >> : I don´t think so. Rather he sees the unfulfillabilities, contradictions, incompleteness in Trump's delusional and compulsive actions, and that the nonsense cannot last, time will show. But if he acts against this now when the world is drunk from that shiity "peace plan", it will fall back on Israel.
There are so many things unclear in that glorious "peace plan"; ambiguities and pitfalls that the Wittkoffs are too stupid to foresee, solve or even understand.
<< making the return of the hostages the most important issue >> is the priority of the Israel "opposition" and the "peace"niks that brought us to Oct 07
How widely stupid and incompetent Trump is, should have been clear since his ineffective and senseless blathering with Putin at the latest, where significant allies are needed and must be integrated, which is, however, completely alien to an egomaniac like Trump.
I agree 100 %.
It ain't over 'til it's over. I don't agree with much of this essay (and the way the points of the "deal" are interpreted). Let's see how it goes.
Anyone who thought Trump would not throw us under the bus was/is a fool. Never expected it from Bibi.
This is terrible deal but it may fall apart
For Trump‘s sake and his brothers in Qatar, he did the foreseeable, Nethanyahu didn’t see coming, as he didn’t recognise Hamas for what it was before the 07 October 2023, a mortal necrophile danger.
Israel is the birthplace of the concept „rule of law“. Let the Israeli courts judge, what has to be judged - there is no need for international courts.
The trumpian snake egg deal, is nothing more. The lies and propaganda MUST be uncovered, for the sake of western civilisation. Trump is a danger for all he touches.
Disagree. Trump knows exactly what he is doing.
The language of Compromise, made explicit in the Language of Diplomacy, is necessary at this stage of the Gaza war. Trump’s maximalist language is also required, to get The Arabs on board and to pressure Hamas at the negotiating table. But this is all these things are: Language. Believe you me, no-one in the Militaries of The West have forgotten the Monster which is Islamist Hamas, and the Long double-game which The Muslim Brotherhood and Wahhabist Saudi Arabia is playing with both Europe and The West, to take Europe Militarily and Demographically. And nor has the Excellent President Trump.
There is no compromise. Unless Israel finishes off Hamas and leaves nothing left, Hamas will claim victory, something that will not be palatable to Israel.
Sounds like this was written by a Trump hater. IDK if that's true, but I digress.
Christianity was sold 2000 years ago. Zionism has decided they will rob it. And they have for 80 years.
The invasion of the Christian holy lands still continues to this day.
If Trump gets the Nobel prize we will know we were betrayed. Friends of the US are never awarded it. It fact, it's a disqualifier. Hating America is a prerequisite. So. We'll know.
Brutal an' the best bitter trooth pill I've seen onnit...agree fully...near-despair.... an' ya know what?
this might NOT be even the victory of the hostage movement (goosed by Qatar....some say). Nope. HamAss is sayin' they don't have access....cannot find....cannot locate. This is nothin' less than....obscene.... (but yer writin' this piece, much appreciated)
ps all this said--duz not mean we've lost / given up "the ghost" but I think that this is more in the realm of hashem an' Israel "herself" than in the hands of the the Ahrt of the Deal-maker...jus' sayin'