Before delving into the history of Zionism let's get this issue off the table:
Abraham, our Patriarch, was a Zionist
Genesis makes it clear that Zionism is central to Abraham’s new religious mission.
Abraham becomes a Jew and a Zionist at the same time. The first command he receives is “Go from your country [lech lecha], your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.” Abraham’s religious journey begins with a pilgrimage to Israel. Israel is an ever-present theme in the text; when Abraham and Sarah abandon Israel in search of food, it is seen by some, such as the Ramban, as a “major sin.” Their entire lives focus on the dream of building a nation in the land. When Sarah dies, the Bible depicts the intense effort Abraham makes to bury her in Israel. As Ibn Ezra notes, the purchase of a burial plot for her marks the beginning of the future Jewish state.
Genesis makes it clear that Zionism is central to Abraham’s new religious mission.
Generations of Jews would follow in Abraham’s footsteps. Instead of offering hairsplitting arguments about “the spiritual essence of Judaism,” they turned their hearts toward Zion. Israel was a part of their prayers, part of their Tanakh, part of their studies and stories. At the Seder, they sang “l’shanah haba’ah b’yerushalayim,” “next year in Jerusalem,” with all of their hearts.
They simply couldn’t imagine a Judaism without Zionism.
Jews who knew little else still heard the call of “lech lecha,” and from the furthest reaches of exile would find their way home, just as Abraham and Sarah did so many generations before.
And they never let go of the dream of Israel, even in the worst of times.
Hannah Einbinder and her fellow anti-zionist Jews just don't understand. Does she think there are many Arabs surrounding Israel who want to live together in peaceful coexistence like most Israelis do? Or does she have any understanding of the global hatred for Israel and the clearly broadcast wish to kill all Israelis? These enemies of Israel need to learn that Israel's enemies do NOT think like we do. Should we just forget about October 7th's brutality? Is she OK with our young IDF soldiers being killed defending their Jewish homeland?
She reminds me of the Kapos in the concentration camps who sought an easier time for themselves by helping their Nazi guards.
I´m sick and tired of this kind of speeches, usually given by western people who live in democratic societies and do not understand that Israel is surround by millions of jihadist, fanatic, islamic hating people who want to destroy it.
My Israeli born friend says Israelis are Zionist...hate B'tselem and Haaretz ..both of which are virulently anti Zionist....want to live in "one Palestine...whole." as Segev put it.
Your words, Joshua are like arrows flying straight and true to the heart of the matter; you are one of a few individuals of whom I will say "He speaks for me." Alex
“Israel is not viewed by progressive activists as the world’s embodiment of evil because of settlements or policies or any of the other red herrings that are thrown up to justify the hysterical condemnations. It is viewed as the embodiment of evil because Jews have traditionally been the empty vessel upon which humans have projected their sins — and the Jewish state is both the national embodiment of the Jewish people and the natural inheritor of centuries of projection and vilification of Jews.
Jews worldwide are not targeted because of Israel’s existence. On the contrary, Israel is targeted because of Jews’ existence. At a minimum, it is the Jewish people’s insistence on existing as a self-determined people that sets off the haters.
It is not, fundamentally, the existence or actions of Israel that lead to global condemnations and acts of hate against Jews around the world. No, we’ve got this exactly backward. It is the hatred of Jews around the world that leads to the military and rhetorical assaults against Israel. Global antisemitism is not a byproduct of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a byproduct of global antisemitism.”
Also note well: The Jewish People fled abroad as a result of the invasion of The Romans, and Hadrian, and the genocidal destruction of Jerusalem: Our country was smashed. This is how we became the first minority in Europe: Not through our fault; we were fleeing mass murder.
"Judaism without Zionism is like Christianity without Jesus Christ." Well said. As a Catholic the Church without Jesus renders it no more than a social club. Subdividing Judaism is ridiculous and to do so leads to destruction. The reason Jews have survived thousands of years despite horrific treatment is because of unity which is best said by the expression "Next year in Jerusalem."
"Ethno-State" , little Hannale said. Which state based on long dwelling specific populations is "not" ethnically originated? Italians? Spaniards? Brits? French? Russians? Middle-East? China? And here is the beauty of Israel: about 3,000 years ago, for about 1,000 years, the " ethnic" now-called Jews ( Ancient Israel) had various " ethnic" states that belonged to them as much as anything belonged to anyone else. These various " ethno" kingdoms were her own ancestors. In fact, the " ethno" formula is discriminatory, and the denomination offensive, hurled as an insult. As if proper, "clean" states should be made of races permitted and generalised by the UN. " Generic" people.
Had she said she is not a Jew anymore- good luck- , she could have saved herself the shame of idiocy. But not knowing anything at all is a bit much.
"Judenrein, " cleansed of Jews" too. Not just Arabs, a normal vast ethnicity, as they always were, but some " distinct" distinguished fake ethnical specific " Palestinian " Arab " sub-ethnicity", genetic descendants of the Canaanites, whom, by the way, Israel defeated thousands of years ago.They all like to make clear to us, Jews, the guilty of everything, to be sure to distinguish the Arab ethnicity, almost the whole Middle-East, from the Persian ethnicity of Iran. It never ends. Everything that is dubious or downright wrong about them is projected on Jews-Israel.
I dont get this bullshit ethno nationalist state, too. Isnt every nation state an ethno nationalist state? Isnt every Muslim state or European state that wants to hold onto its heritage an nationalist state? Isnt France, a nation with an entire department that requires a review and revamping of foreign words to make them into "french." a nationalist state? Isnt China and Russia? Isnt the Palestine that she wants to create, the one that the Palestinians claim will be judenrein, be an ethno nationalist state? So the only People in the entire world who are not allowed a state that follows their rules or gives priority to their own heritage is the Jewish one? ISnt the US an ethno nationalist state because the majority of us actually respect our heritage and the US constitution? This crap is ridiculous.
"Ethnostate" is just the newest trendy jargon coughed up from the dark depths by the Jew haters of Leftist academia, now that apartheid genocide settler-colonial imperialist ethnic cleansing etc etc are starting to lose some shock value.
The same people who denounce Israel for being an "ethnostate" also demand the creation of a Palestinian state, but I guess they're not aiming for consistency. And we all know that these same ignorant posers would never demand that the Islamic Republics of Iran or Pakistan open their borders to people of different tribes or faiths—that would be "punching down" and/or "Islamophobic" (and also be bad for their careers).
Western liberals are like rich kids who look down from their penthouse wondering why all those poor people are fighting over scraps—they've never had to work or suffer for all the rights, privileges, safety and prosperity that they consider a birthright, so they can't quite understand that others have to struggle to survive and don't have the luxury of imagining a borderless utopia, as in Israel's case, they're surrounded by genocidal enemies.
The "ethnostate" charge is the height of Western arrogance and condescension, brought to you by people who live at the apex of wealth and safety and are happy to hog all the virtue while others bleed for their idealism.
It also seems to me that anti-zionism is strongly eurocentric and ashkenazic, often on the far left. No wonder it magnifies the falsehood that Jews are europeans. Both Marxists and some Hasidic traditions strongly resisted returning to the Jewish homeland in the 1800's and early 1900's. They were disconnected from Mizrachi and Separdic brothers and sisters, and even felt superior, with the strong Yiddish culture that developed in Europe. And yet, the Shoah happened and it became clear that the Jewish people needed to unite and return to our ancient homeland. It has taken decades, but Israel has integrated the diversity of the Jewish people.
Anti-zionism seems to want to maintain its old, traditional ashkenazic, eurocentrist, Yiddishkeit. Many of us see this as anachronistic as well as divisive and counterproductive for Jewish survival. However, if one sees Jewish as just European, anti-zionism may make sense.
Einbinder actually has said even stupider and more ignorant things in defense of her statement since then. Good comedic actor, but no clue what she’s talking about. Just another delusional, self-important Hollywood leftist.
Hannah Einbinder is not an “antizionist Jew.” She’s just an antizionist.
“This is why self-hating Jews are so dangerous. They are trotted out as political props, their Jewishness exploited by Israel's enemies to say,
"See, even Jews agree Israel has no right to exist."
Is it really correct to apply the common expression, ‘self-hating Jews’ to such people?
I don’t think so.
It seems to me that it would be more correct to describe them as ‘self-loving’ people, which ultimately means they aren’t loving at all, but rather, self-centered.
We all make these errors, and we are often led into them by the weight of common usage, and the inconvenience or awkwardness of trying to communicate against the grain of common understanding.
The prime example of what I am referring to, is the use of the term, ‘Palestinian’ in regard to the Arabs, Egyptians, or other ethnicities that claim the name. Every single time we use the term ( I am included in ‘we’), we reinforce the conceptualization of a real ‘Palestinian’ ethnic group with a real history, a real historical claim to the Land, and real, as in ‘legitimate’, grievances.
Despite knowing this, and loathing the deceptions involved, we are often ‘herded’ into using the term because of the awkwardness associated with carrying on a related discussion without giving in to its use ‘for simplicity’s sake’; ‘for the sake of communication’.
Yet, regardless of how much truth may be involved, what is also being communicated by that communication is a subtle, but very powerful lie; the very definition of ‘sophistry’. (As an aside, consider that popular D-CON rat poison was originally comprised of 99.995% ‘good’ ingredients, and only 0.005% concentration of active poison. Rats loved it, ate as much as they could, and that was enough to seal their fate.)
Returning to the ‘self-hating Jew’ descriptive terminology, there are several different perspectives one could consider, but the most powerful, to me at least, is the Biblical one. To do so, I believe we must start at the root of ‘sin’, which is ‘self’; self-will over, and therefore, against, God’s will.
The Bible reveals every critical truth needed to understand our world; its source, origins, and fall, as well as its ultimate fate.
It reveals that mankind was uniquely created to be filled with the Spirit of God; that our nature was to be enlivened and ‘inspired’ by God’s Spirit.
The list of truly significant revelations is inexhaustible, but perhaps the most important are those related to the nature and attributes of God. Of those, the most relevant for this subject, is that God is ‘Love’. He is not only the source of all true love, He is Love itself.
And the essential quality and characteristic of true love, is its outward, rather than inward, focus; a continuous preference for the ultimate welfare of ‘the other’.
As the very source of love, it is God’s Spirit that moves us to share love in communion with Him and, thereby, with others. But God’s Spirit always moves in harmony with all of His other attributes, and His will.
So, when we instinctively or knowingly choose to act independently of God’s will; when we put what we want, we desire, we think or believe is ‘right’, before His desires and His reality, we are ‘sinful’ - we are, in reality, ‘self-loving’, not ‘self-hating’.
And, when a Jew disassociates himself or herself from identification with that which is best for his or her people; the Chosen People, that is exactly contrary to the Biblically-revealed heart and will of God, and they are actually choosing to stand apart from Him and His call upon their lives, no matter what they may think otherwise.
May the Lord move upon the hearts and minds of His people, to cause them to turn to Him, to seek Him with all their strength of will, that He might restore and save them from bondage to self, and the fear of death.
May He give His people, and especially Israel’s leaders and warriors, wisdom, courage, skill, strength, protection, and victory in battle against their many enemies, within and without the nation. And may the Spirit of God move to bring unity amongst the Chosen People of God, for His glory, and the glory of His Kingdom.
I pray in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus Christ.
Proverbs 14:12 (Tanakh)
“A road may seem right to a man, but in the end it is a road to death.”
Before delving into the history of Zionism let's get this issue off the table:
Abraham, our Patriarch, was a Zionist
Genesis makes it clear that Zionism is central to Abraham’s new religious mission.
Abraham becomes a Jew and a Zionist at the same time. The first command he receives is “Go from your country [lech lecha], your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.” Abraham’s religious journey begins with a pilgrimage to Israel. Israel is an ever-present theme in the text; when Abraham and Sarah abandon Israel in search of food, it is seen by some, such as the Ramban, as a “major sin.” Their entire lives focus on the dream of building a nation in the land. When Sarah dies, the Bible depicts the intense effort Abraham makes to bury her in Israel. As Ibn Ezra notes, the purchase of a burial plot for her marks the beginning of the future Jewish state.
Genesis makes it clear that Zionism is central to Abraham’s new religious mission.
Generations of Jews would follow in Abraham’s footsteps. Instead of offering hairsplitting arguments about “the spiritual essence of Judaism,” they turned their hearts toward Zion. Israel was a part of their prayers, part of their Tanakh, part of their studies and stories. At the Seder, they sang “l’shanah haba’ah b’yerushalayim,” “next year in Jerusalem,” with all of their hearts.
They simply couldn’t imagine a Judaism without Zionism.
Jews who knew little else still heard the call of “lech lecha,” and from the furthest reaches of exile would find their way home, just as Abraham and Sarah did so many generations before.
And they never let go of the dream of Israel, even in the worst of times.
Hannah Einbinder and her fellow anti-zionist Jews just don't understand. Does she think there are many Arabs surrounding Israel who want to live together in peaceful coexistence like most Israelis do? Or does she have any understanding of the global hatred for Israel and the clearly broadcast wish to kill all Israelis? These enemies of Israel need to learn that Israel's enemies do NOT think like we do. Should we just forget about October 7th's brutality? Is she OK with our young IDF soldiers being killed defending their Jewish homeland?
She reminds me of the Kapos in the concentration camps who sought an easier time for themselves by helping their Nazi guards.
...and being a Kapo was a despicable role which did not save one from the camp and the furnace.
her ignorance as is Seth Rogan's is staggering.
I´m sick and tired of this kind of speeches, usually given by western people who live in democratic societies and do not understand that Israel is surround by millions of jihadist, fanatic, islamic hating people who want to destroy it.
Sadly, there are Hannah Einbinder type of Jews within Israel itself, many working for Haaretz or active in Btselem.
My Israeli born friend says Israelis are Zionist...hate B'tselem and Haaretz ..both of which are virulently anti Zionist....want to live in "one Palestine...whole." as Segev put it.
Your words, Joshua are like arrows flying straight and true to the heart of the matter; you are one of a few individuals of whom I will say "He speaks for me." Alex
Joshua Hoffman, you've absolutely nailed it. Again.
Thank you for expressing my thoughts so eloquently, I don't know how you do it.😆
Ditto!
Another great one Joshua !
Pat Johnson, substack:
“Israel is not viewed by progressive activists as the world’s embodiment of evil because of settlements or policies or any of the other red herrings that are thrown up to justify the hysterical condemnations. It is viewed as the embodiment of evil because Jews have traditionally been the empty vessel upon which humans have projected their sins — and the Jewish state is both the national embodiment of the Jewish people and the natural inheritor of centuries of projection and vilification of Jews.
Jews worldwide are not targeted because of Israel’s existence. On the contrary, Israel is targeted because of Jews’ existence. At a minimum, it is the Jewish people’s insistence on existing as a self-determined people that sets off the haters.
It is not, fundamentally, the existence or actions of Israel that lead to global condemnations and acts of hate against Jews around the world. No, we’ve got this exactly backward. It is the hatred of Jews around the world that leads to the military and rhetorical assaults against Israel. Global antisemitism is not a byproduct of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a byproduct of global antisemitism.”
Well said! This needs repeating. Hatred against Jews is the true face of AntiZionism.
Also note well: The Jewish People fled abroad as a result of the invasion of The Romans, and Hadrian, and the genocidal destruction of Jerusalem: Our country was smashed. This is how we became the first minority in Europe: Not through our fault; we were fleeing mass murder.
mostly self hating Jews
"Judaism without Zionism is like Christianity without Jesus Christ." Well said. As a Catholic the Church without Jesus renders it no more than a social club. Subdividing Judaism is ridiculous and to do so leads to destruction. The reason Jews have survived thousands of years despite horrific treatment is because of unity which is best said by the expression "Next year in Jerusalem."
"Ethno-State" , little Hannale said. Which state based on long dwelling specific populations is "not" ethnically originated? Italians? Spaniards? Brits? French? Russians? Middle-East? China? And here is the beauty of Israel: about 3,000 years ago, for about 1,000 years, the " ethnic" now-called Jews ( Ancient Israel) had various " ethnic" states that belonged to them as much as anything belonged to anyone else. These various " ethno" kingdoms were her own ancestors. In fact, the " ethno" formula is discriminatory, and the denomination offensive, hurled as an insult. As if proper, "clean" states should be made of races permitted and generalised by the UN. " Generic" people.
Had she said she is not a Jew anymore- good luck- , she could have saved herself the shame of idiocy. But not knowing anything at all is a bit much.
As if "Palestine" wouldn't be the ultimate ethno state. SHe is so stupid I'm surprised she can read.
Exactly! Well said. Not only ethno.
"Judenrein, " cleansed of Jews" too. Not just Arabs, a normal vast ethnicity, as they always were, but some " distinct" distinguished fake ethnical specific " Palestinian " Arab " sub-ethnicity", genetic descendants of the Canaanites, whom, by the way, Israel defeated thousands of years ago.They all like to make clear to us, Jews, the guilty of everything, to be sure to distinguish the Arab ethnicity, almost the whole Middle-East, from the Persian ethnicity of Iran. It never ends. Everything that is dubious or downright wrong about them is projected on Jews-Israel.
I dont get this bullshit ethno nationalist state, too. Isnt every nation state an ethno nationalist state? Isnt every Muslim state or European state that wants to hold onto its heritage an nationalist state? Isnt France, a nation with an entire department that requires a review and revamping of foreign words to make them into "french." a nationalist state? Isnt China and Russia? Isnt the Palestine that she wants to create, the one that the Palestinians claim will be judenrein, be an ethno nationalist state? So the only People in the entire world who are not allowed a state that follows their rules or gives priority to their own heritage is the Jewish one? ISnt the US an ethno nationalist state because the majority of us actually respect our heritage and the US constitution? This crap is ridiculous.
"Ethnostate" is just the newest trendy jargon coughed up from the dark depths by the Jew haters of Leftist academia, now that apartheid genocide settler-colonial imperialist ethnic cleansing etc etc are starting to lose some shock value.
The same people who denounce Israel for being an "ethnostate" also demand the creation of a Palestinian state, but I guess they're not aiming for consistency. And we all know that these same ignorant posers would never demand that the Islamic Republics of Iran or Pakistan open their borders to people of different tribes or faiths—that would be "punching down" and/or "Islamophobic" (and also be bad for their careers).
Western liberals are like rich kids who look down from their penthouse wondering why all those poor people are fighting over scraps—they've never had to work or suffer for all the rights, privileges, safety and prosperity that they consider a birthright, so they can't quite understand that others have to struggle to survive and don't have the luxury of imagining a borderless utopia, as in Israel's case, they're surrounded by genocidal enemies.
The "ethnostate" charge is the height of Western arrogance and condescension, brought to you by people who live at the apex of wealth and safety and are happy to hog all the virtue while others bleed for their idealism.
She’s a retard, poor little simpleton wearing something filthy little dead Arafat contrived. Maddening.
Powerful and spot on!
It also seems to me that anti-zionism is strongly eurocentric and ashkenazic, often on the far left. No wonder it magnifies the falsehood that Jews are europeans. Both Marxists and some Hasidic traditions strongly resisted returning to the Jewish homeland in the 1800's and early 1900's. They were disconnected from Mizrachi and Separdic brothers and sisters, and even felt superior, with the strong Yiddish culture that developed in Europe. And yet, the Shoah happened and it became clear that the Jewish people needed to unite and return to our ancient homeland. It has taken decades, but Israel has integrated the diversity of the Jewish people.
Anti-zionism seems to want to maintain its old, traditional ashkenazic, eurocentrist, Yiddishkeit. Many of us see this as anachronistic as well as divisive and counterproductive for Jewish survival. However, if one sees Jewish as just European, anti-zionism may make sense.
Einbinder actually has said even stupider and more ignorant things in defense of her statement since then. Good comedic actor, but no clue what she’s talking about. Just another delusional, self-important Hollywood leftist.
Hannah Einbinder is not an “antizionist Jew.” She’s just an antizionist.
“This is why self-hating Jews are so dangerous. They are trotted out as political props, their Jewishness exploited by Israel's enemies to say,
"See, even Jews agree Israel has no right to exist."
Is it really correct to apply the common expression, ‘self-hating Jews’ to such people?
I don’t think so.
It seems to me that it would be more correct to describe them as ‘self-loving’ people, which ultimately means they aren’t loving at all, but rather, self-centered.
We all make these errors, and we are often led into them by the weight of common usage, and the inconvenience or awkwardness of trying to communicate against the grain of common understanding.
The prime example of what I am referring to, is the use of the term, ‘Palestinian’ in regard to the Arabs, Egyptians, or other ethnicities that claim the name. Every single time we use the term ( I am included in ‘we’), we reinforce the conceptualization of a real ‘Palestinian’ ethnic group with a real history, a real historical claim to the Land, and real, as in ‘legitimate’, grievances.
Despite knowing this, and loathing the deceptions involved, we are often ‘herded’ into using the term because of the awkwardness associated with carrying on a related discussion without giving in to its use ‘for simplicity’s sake’; ‘for the sake of communication’.
Yet, regardless of how much truth may be involved, what is also being communicated by that communication is a subtle, but very powerful lie; the very definition of ‘sophistry’. (As an aside, consider that popular D-CON rat poison was originally comprised of 99.995% ‘good’ ingredients, and only 0.005% concentration of active poison. Rats loved it, ate as much as they could, and that was enough to seal their fate.)
Returning to the ‘self-hating Jew’ descriptive terminology, there are several different perspectives one could consider, but the most powerful, to me at least, is the Biblical one. To do so, I believe we must start at the root of ‘sin’, which is ‘self’; self-will over, and therefore, against, God’s will.
The Bible reveals every critical truth needed to understand our world; its source, origins, and fall, as well as its ultimate fate.
It reveals that mankind was uniquely created to be filled with the Spirit of God; that our nature was to be enlivened and ‘inspired’ by God’s Spirit.
The list of truly significant revelations is inexhaustible, but perhaps the most important are those related to the nature and attributes of God. Of those, the most relevant for this subject, is that God is ‘Love’. He is not only the source of all true love, He is Love itself.
And the essential quality and characteristic of true love, is its outward, rather than inward, focus; a continuous preference for the ultimate welfare of ‘the other’.
As the very source of love, it is God’s Spirit that moves us to share love in communion with Him and, thereby, with others. But God’s Spirit always moves in harmony with all of His other attributes, and His will.
So, when we instinctively or knowingly choose to act independently of God’s will; when we put what we want, we desire, we think or believe is ‘right’, before His desires and His reality, we are ‘sinful’ - we are, in reality, ‘self-loving’, not ‘self-hating’.
And, when a Jew disassociates himself or herself from identification with that which is best for his or her people; the Chosen People, that is exactly contrary to the Biblically-revealed heart and will of God, and they are actually choosing to stand apart from Him and His call upon their lives, no matter what they may think otherwise.
May the Lord move upon the hearts and minds of His people, to cause them to turn to Him, to seek Him with all their strength of will, that He might restore and save them from bondage to self, and the fear of death.
May He give His people, and especially Israel’s leaders and warriors, wisdom, courage, skill, strength, protection, and victory in battle against their many enemies, within and without the nation. And may the Spirit of God move to bring unity amongst the Chosen People of God, for His glory, and the glory of His Kingdom.
I pray in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus Christ.
Proverbs 14:12 (Tanakh)
“A road may seem right to a man, but in the end it is a road to death.”
Am Israel Chai!
Jews like Einbinder are the epitome of the Seder’s wicked son, separating themselves from Judaism and Am Yisrael. May her right hand wither