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The title of this post was so inane I was compelled to read it. I don't know about y'all but I am really tired of preachy Jews telling me who's Jewish and who isn't. At least if you want to take on such a serious endeavour, do it with some intellectual rigour. I'll give just one example. We're given a list of social categories -- the French, Italians, Chinese etc. -- and these are supposed to be thought experiments that make the case for the 'not all Jews are Jewish' thesis. We're asked to consider whether an Italian who is ignorant of Roman culture is really Italian. The answer is YES. This person would be a culturally ignorant Italian, not a non-Italian. The examples all work against the thesis. I think those Jews who are excluded from Jewishness by Hoffman's thesis can rest easy on this Shabbat.

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Joshua, Bravo for writing this. I was very curious as to how readers would react as this a touchy subject for many American Jews. I know because I pose questions like you have posed ( both online and at lunches and dinners). It makes many very uncomfortable or even angry ( as noted in the comments before mine was posted) .

I have noted many times that to be a Christian one must believe in Jesus ( at least my many Christian friends so tell me). And I often ask what is the Jewish counterpart to such a BELIEF system. And that of course leads to the question of where God fits into the equation ( talk about opening a can of worms). And the God question inevitably leads to.my next question: what makes a RELIGION a religion, an important question for many reasons including tax benefits? Again these questions or points often lead to consternation or even anger. As you note, I view my Jewish heritage and Jewish nature to mean any all questions raised or opinions uttered are fair game, the essence of my understanding of Judaism and Jewishness.

And in case it matters, I grew up in a Reform synagogue in a very Jewish area . And I believe in God. And I eat a lot of bagels.

So good for you. I anxiously await reading further comments and reactions and anger the next day or so. 😉

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