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Shelah Horvitz's avatar

You nailed something I hadn't considered before, which is that not just not just the middle eastern countries, but also that the Christian west thinks of Jews as dhimmis. So the most galling thing about a successful Israel and The New Jew is that it challenges that hierarchy. And that's the real reason why calling someone a Zionist has become like calling them evil incarnate.

In the past few years a few Christians have mentioned to me in passing how the Jews are the Chosen People, so much that I think it's a bit of a hangup. I explain to them, "No, it's not that God plays favorites, you gotta be kidding, Jews are massacred in every generation, it's just that God said "Who will jump this high" and the Jews were the only ones who raised their hands." They never ever buy that explanation, which I also think is interesting. And then in the past year or two I read about the doctrine of supercessionism, which is essentially that the Jews got everything wrong and the Christians are the real Chosen People now. Like, it really really matters that you get to call yourself the Chosen People.

And all that leads into why it's so important for Jews to lose. Christianity took Judaism and "fixed" it, and Islam took Judaism and "fixed" it, and if the Jews don't lose, then that opens a crack of doubt that there was nothing wrong with Judaism in the first place. And that is intolerable because if your whole life is wrapped around the idea that your faith is the New Better Best, The One True Faith in the zero-sum Best Faith game, then maybe your whole life has been barking up the wrong tree. There's no consideration of that notion the Dalai Lama, said, that your religion in large part is your culture and you should stick to your culture, which means there is no One True Faith. No, if religion has to be One True Faith, then the Jews have to go or at least be miserable victims.

The Jew absolutely positively has to be the dhimmi, for now and forever. And when individual Jews pull themselves up despite great discrimination, again and again, when Israel wins against astronomical odds, over and over, that makes people who are hung up on that Chosen People thing think, those fricking Jews can't lose, they're God's favorites, it's so unfair. Let's kill the Jews, they fricking deserve it.

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Heartworker's avatar

I think the problem is that most people just don´t know anything or not enough about the history of the Jews and their ages and centuries long struggle. For many, their history appears to have begun with the persecution and mass murdering by Hitler, very many are not aware of jews being oppressed, expelled, killed and "converted" everywhere countless times. - In addition, Hitler's greatest campaign and the greatest destruction by Hitler was seen as that against Eastern Europe; there were feelings of guilt towards "the Russians", although "the Russians" did not actually have the most victims to mourn, but rather Jews, Poles, Ukrainians (around 7 mio. deaths in the "Holodomor" famine caused by Stalin long before WW II and before Hitlers reign), Belarusians. In large parts of Europe and the world, gratitude towards the Allies USA, UK, France did not prevail, but rather the false "Soviet historiography", according to which "capitalism" was supposedly a "precursor to fascism".

The fact that "leftists", for example, themselves contributed significantly to driving voters into Hitler's arms during and after the global economic crisis, became forgotten.

Thus, after the Second World War, a "left" worldview largely prevailed in the "West" and especially great parts of Europe: Russians and socialists as "poor victims", although Hitler himself was a ("National") socialist.

But "the Jews"/Israel did not adhere to these rules and views and sought help from the "class enemy", "big capitalism" USA, and the fact that the so-called Palestinians themselves had missed the opportunity to establish their own state, that Israel was largely surrounded by enemies who were anything but democratic or liberal, was not perceived in Europe - which had been granted freedom through the intervention of the USA and capitalist "colonialist" Great Britain - due to the "left" spirit of those times. It was not understood that Jews did have enough of being victims again and again and that they felt entitled to seek support wherever they could get it. The fact that the USA also pursued its own interests in doing so was not appreciated in moralizing, idealistic, cheaply "anti-fascist" Germany and Europe.

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