The Palestinians tried this on the Temple Mount. This is just the latest example of the Palestinians’ violation of the Oslo Accords and the lack of accountability for doing so. For the Palestinians, Oslo is a diplomatic shield to entrench their jihadist ideology and continue their forever war against Israel. A “cold” war against Jewish identity and history is still a war, and the Israeli government must respond accordingly to protect Solomon’s Pools and other Jewish archaeological sites.
The historical fictional reading of “The Haj” by The late Leon Uris, author of the Exodus, gives great insights to the cultural (and possibly the biological) mind of Arab attitudes, aims and their rules of negotiation which are diametrically opposite of Westerners. With us, a deal is a deal, backed by good faith and our laws. With them, and you can throw in the Iranians, all this is fluid and subject to their overriding jihadism.
This is the Muslim mindset. The world has no value for them except insofar as it is a vessel for Islam. Anyone remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan? ☪️ancer
Muslims kept that western wall in tact for over a thousand years along with many other Jewish and Christian sites. Jews living in Palestine prior to 1948 were also allowed to live disproportionately in and around Jerusalem. Citing the activity of political extremists as the actions of all Muslims is on a par with claiming the KKK represent all Christians.
When there is a caliphate and minority groups live in the caliphate as dhimmi and pay the jizya, Muslims allow them to live in relative peace (though history is replete with random outbreaks of violence and massacres against minorities in Muslim countries). But when any minority group living among Muslims dares to assert themselves in any way deemed unacceptable by the Ummah, violence always follows.
In 1400 years of the spread of Islam, there is not one example of Muslim majorities (or even large Muslim minorities) living peacefully, with full and equal rights, with other groups in the same country. If the Muslims are not in charge, violence ALWAYS follows… always.
When this basic fact is understood, everything from low level conflicts (involving Muslims) to Islamic terrorism all begins to make sense.
The historical record is Islamic treatment of Jews is infinitely superior to Christianity. And throughout history Jews would far more regularly flee Christian lands to live in Muslim ones than visa versa. Your twisted analysis only draws this conclusion because you insist on the jizya being something derogatory but which today is simply called paying taxes. On that basis I could quite easily say "In the whole of British history there has never been an example of the British living alongside any ethnic minority allowing them full and equal rights!"
Your treatment of Muslim history brushes with such broad strokes I am inclined to think you have read any. Certainly not anything not painfully biased.
No one brought up Christianity; no idea why you did.
Back to the topic at hand - Muslims and the spread of Islam. Do you really want to defend a religious empire that converted (not through proselytizing but by the sword) over 50 countries while simultaneously destroying dozens of cultures in their entirety?
And as I said, once minorities were thoroughly subjugated (which goes far beyond a tax - Google “dhimmi” and study everything it involves) they lived in relative peace… as long as they knew their place. And when any minority got out of their lane, massacres often followed.
It sounds like it is you brushing with broad strokes based on little-to-no real understanding of the history of Islam.
Exactly my point. Zionists never bring up historic Christian antisemitism but only ever Muslim examples. Most likely because most of the world's Zionists are Christians not Jews. So yes, of course you're going to whitewash their crimes too as if they never happened. I'm not defending any empires at all. All of them have been brutal and none more so than the Christian British in the last 400 years. And crimes committed by Muslim Empires in the Middle Ages are entirely eclipsed by the evils of the British Empire who did a thousand times worse. I mean, if you want to bring up the past in terms of how military might and power can lead to injustices then we can also talk about the Israelites and their very brief exposure to military might (also it was no real empire of even kingdom of course). The commands they put in the mouth of their patron god YHWH are particularly disturbing as was their system of ethnic-based slavery. We always see the worst of religion when it has political power but it's not unique to one religion. They all come out of this discussion looking morally bankrupt. What interests me is the people, like yourself, who think this discussion should only be about one particular religion. Why pick on one alone? What's the agenda exactly?
It's like covering up a nazi tattoo and lying to to the world that it no longer is a thing. And the jew haters just put on their blinders and play along.
If an international body like UNESCO, does not recognize Jerusalem as the eternal capital of the Jewish people, what can you expect from the do called Arab Palestinians?
Maybe you should send a copy of this post also to Betzelem, Peace Now, Breaking the Silence, the NIF and the Social Democratic party in Israel.
bla bla blah just kill em, take the pools and kick these animals off our land, quit fuckin around writing another woe is me article. Should we actually give a half a damn what the anti semites in Europe and the rest of our loyal friends around the world think? There are probably about 3,000 worldwide Pali rabble rousers that are paid to organize terror, protests, and violence against jews in the West. Use facial recognition when they take off their masks follow them home and kill them or beat the crap out of them so they are a symbols and examples that we will no longer be the world's easiest most passive victims. Israel at least fights back, diaspora jews will probably read this and be aghast at my Kahanist opinion.
Recently, there was a brouhaha about Israel not giving the PA some allegedly due tax revenue. Much was made of their poverty, crisis, most basic needs, and how callous Israel was. This was reported in shocking manner even by The Times of Israel.
Wait a minute: they have money to obliterate archaeology with the pretext of yet another mosque, their eternal supremacy signature? ( they tried one at the 9/11 site right after the tragedy).
Maybe if Abbas and the rest of them stop taking the tax revenue to enrich themselves, the people would have their basic needs. There was a meeting recently with countries who were donors for the resort community in Gaza. The PA went and were not supposed to be there, and lo and behold, they were given a check in the millions. They're supposed to show how they've reformed the PA and have done little to nothing as of now, but rewarded with money. Make it make sense.
Look, this is what Palestinians do everywhere they can. Old foundations are buried beneath asphalt parking lots. There have been destructive incursions beneath the Temple Mount. Now this.
Yeah, so what do you propose as a solution? Identifying the problem is easy. I get tired of reading about what doesn’t work. How about something that might? That wouldn’t bore.
The connection for this leads to Moscow where the PLO charter was drafted in 1964. The Leftists and IslamoFascists came together against western democracies and Israel. And that Jewish connection in Israel never existed or is irrelevant.
Yet this conspiracy is circulating today on social media. That Khazars are Jews and that Eastern European Jews are the descendants of Khazars is a Conspiracy Theory. Modern genetics show that Khazars are not related to Jews and have nothing to do with Jews.
This is a disturbing article. This area is known as the Holy Land. I would expect archeological sites to be important to Christians as well Are there no Christian groups that would join in to prevent the destruction of sites?
The Palestinians tried this on the Temple Mount. This is just the latest example of the Palestinians’ violation of the Oslo Accords and the lack of accountability for doing so. For the Palestinians, Oslo is a diplomatic shield to entrench their jihadist ideology and continue their forever war against Israel. A “cold” war against Jewish identity and history is still a war, and the Israeli government must respond accordingly to protect Solomon’s Pools and other Jewish archaeological sites.
The historical fictional reading of “The Haj” by The late Leon Uris, author of the Exodus, gives great insights to the cultural (and possibly the biological) mind of Arab attitudes, aims and their rules of negotiation which are diametrically opposite of Westerners. With us, a deal is a deal, backed by good faith and our laws. With them, and you can throw in the Iranians, all this is fluid and subject to their overriding jihadism.
This is the Muslim mindset. The world has no value for them except insofar as it is a vessel for Islam. Anyone remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan? ☪️ancer
Yes I remember.
I remember as well.
Muslims kept that western wall in tact for over a thousand years along with many other Jewish and Christian sites. Jews living in Palestine prior to 1948 were also allowed to live disproportionately in and around Jerusalem. Citing the activity of political extremists as the actions of all Muslims is on a par with claiming the KKK represent all Christians.
When there is a caliphate and minority groups live in the caliphate as dhimmi and pay the jizya, Muslims allow them to live in relative peace (though history is replete with random outbreaks of violence and massacres against minorities in Muslim countries). But when any minority group living among Muslims dares to assert themselves in any way deemed unacceptable by the Ummah, violence always follows.
In 1400 years of the spread of Islam, there is not one example of Muslim majorities (or even large Muslim minorities) living peacefully, with full and equal rights, with other groups in the same country. If the Muslims are not in charge, violence ALWAYS follows… always.
When this basic fact is understood, everything from low level conflicts (involving Muslims) to Islamic terrorism all begins to make sense.
The historical record is Islamic treatment of Jews is infinitely superior to Christianity. And throughout history Jews would far more regularly flee Christian lands to live in Muslim ones than visa versa. Your twisted analysis only draws this conclusion because you insist on the jizya being something derogatory but which today is simply called paying taxes. On that basis I could quite easily say "In the whole of British history there has never been an example of the British living alongside any ethnic minority allowing them full and equal rights!"
Your treatment of Muslim history brushes with such broad strokes I am inclined to think you have read any. Certainly not anything not painfully biased.
No one brought up Christianity; no idea why you did.
Back to the topic at hand - Muslims and the spread of Islam. Do you really want to defend a religious empire that converted (not through proselytizing but by the sword) over 50 countries while simultaneously destroying dozens of cultures in their entirety?
And as I said, once minorities were thoroughly subjugated (which goes far beyond a tax - Google “dhimmi” and study everything it involves) they lived in relative peace… as long as they knew their place. And when any minority got out of their lane, massacres often followed.
It sounds like it is you brushing with broad strokes based on little-to-no real understanding of the history of Islam.
Exactly my point. Zionists never bring up historic Christian antisemitism but only ever Muslim examples. Most likely because most of the world's Zionists are Christians not Jews. So yes, of course you're going to whitewash their crimes too as if they never happened. I'm not defending any empires at all. All of them have been brutal and none more so than the Christian British in the last 400 years. And crimes committed by Muslim Empires in the Middle Ages are entirely eclipsed by the evils of the British Empire who did a thousand times worse. I mean, if you want to bring up the past in terms of how military might and power can lead to injustices then we can also talk about the Israelites and their very brief exposure to military might (also it was no real empire of even kingdom of course). The commands they put in the mouth of their patron god YHWH are particularly disturbing as was their system of ethnic-based slavery. We always see the worst of religion when it has political power but it's not unique to one religion. They all come out of this discussion looking morally bankrupt. What interests me is the people, like yourself, who think this discussion should only be about one particular religion. Why pick on one alone? What's the agenda exactly?
You can deflect from the topic at hand all you want; not chasing your red herrings today.
PS - do you even know what Zionism is? I suspect not, but will await your answer.
It's like covering up a nazi tattoo and lying to to the world that it no longer is a thing. And the jew haters just put on their blinders and play along.
Great article and I would like to know what Israel is doing about this.
If an international body like UNESCO, does not recognize Jerusalem as the eternal capital of the Jewish people, what can you expect from the do called Arab Palestinians?
Maybe you should send a copy of this post also to Betzelem, Peace Now, Breaking the Silence, the NIF and the Social Democratic party in Israel.
As a Christian I value Old Testament and its sites should be respected and kept safe.
Islam hates you just like they hate the Jews and everyone else.
bla bla blah just kill em, take the pools and kick these animals off our land, quit fuckin around writing another woe is me article. Should we actually give a half a damn what the anti semites in Europe and the rest of our loyal friends around the world think? There are probably about 3,000 worldwide Pali rabble rousers that are paid to organize terror, protests, and violence against jews in the West. Use facial recognition when they take off their masks follow them home and kill them or beat the crap out of them so they are a symbols and examples that we will no longer be the world's easiest most passive victims. Israel at least fights back, diaspora jews will probably read this and be aghast at my Kahanist opinion.
Big talk from, no doubt, a very little boy. lol
OK. But I'm not wrong.
Little Kahanist boy... here I am with no mask and yet you wear one online. I bet you troll from you mum's basement too. lol
Ahh. I just checked your Substack- GFY Yaha
Yeah... go talk big in front of the mirror kiddo. Go flex your little twiglets. lol
Recently, there was a brouhaha about Israel not giving the PA some allegedly due tax revenue. Much was made of their poverty, crisis, most basic needs, and how callous Israel was. This was reported in shocking manner even by The Times of Israel.
Wait a minute: they have money to obliterate archaeology with the pretext of yet another mosque, their eternal supremacy signature? ( they tried one at the 9/11 site right after the tragedy).
Israel, let them be without money. Stop them.
Maybe if Abbas and the rest of them stop taking the tax revenue to enrich themselves, the people would have their basic needs. There was a meeting recently with countries who were donors for the resort community in Gaza. The PA went and were not supposed to be there, and lo and behold, they were given a check in the millions. They're supposed to show how they've reformed the PA and have done little to nothing as of now, but rewarded with money. Make it make sense.
Can this be prevented? What can be done to stop them?
Look, this is what Palestinians do everywhere they can. Old foundations are buried beneath asphalt parking lots. There have been destructive incursions beneath the Temple Mount. Now this.
Never has there been such a parasitic people.
So the shit rats just get to destroy our archaeological sites? Really?
Yeah, so what do you propose as a solution? Identifying the problem is easy. I get tired of reading about what doesn’t work. How about something that might? That wouldn’t bore.
The connection for this leads to Moscow where the PLO charter was drafted in 1964. The Leftists and IslamoFascists came together against western democracies and Israel. And that Jewish connection in Israel never existed or is irrelevant.
Yea, the Khazar's myth was created by KGB as ammunition for Arafat. The Khazar's people themselves were of Asian/Mongolian tribe.
Yet this conspiracy is circulating today on social media. That Khazars are Jews and that Eastern European Jews are the descendants of Khazars is a Conspiracy Theory. Modern genetics show that Khazars are not related to Jews and have nothing to do with Jews.
The Khazars are one of Noam Chomsky's go to's in his arguments.
I forgot Bagatz.
This is a disturbing article. This area is known as the Holy Land. I would expect archeological sites to be important to Christians as well Are there no Christian groups that would join in to prevent the destruction of sites?