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Joel G.'s avatar

Very interesting. I also noticed that whenever politicians particularly in the United Kingdom and Australia condemn antisemitism, they always attach it with being against “Islamophobia”. That tends to dilute the problem of antisemitism that we have today.

EFS's avatar

Another interesting thing about this linking is, that in my experience Jews are not mindlessly Islamophobic. Most of the anti-Muslim sentiment post 9/11 rose up through the general population. It wasn't connected to Jews or Israel at all, except among conspiracy theorists.

John's avatar

Have you read Koran? Conspiracy theorists?

Joel G.'s avatar

Almost 45 years ago I bought an English translation of the Koran. It was a paperback and I gave up after about 10 pages. It was unreadable.

ryan's avatar

Same....and same for Said's now religiously regarded Orientalism which is pure horse manure.

John's avatar

There are various translations on line.

A little of what you missed:

O you who believe! Take not the Jews or the Christians to be your friend;,they are friends of each other.,and who among you takes them to be your friend is one of them...Surely Allah does not guide the unjust.

That's their " Great respect" for " The People of the Book".

I don't have time to type more out,but you should really check Sura 5 in an on line Koran.

That's the one that tells them unequivocally that Israel belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them.

As soon as I can afford it,I am going to have custom Tshirts made with Sura 5 printed in block letters.

Puck's avatar

5:20 "And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, 'O my people! Remember Allah’s favours upon you when He raised prophets from among you, made you sovereign, and gave you what He had never given anyone in the world.' "

5:21 "O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers.”

EFS's avatar

1. I have not read the Koran. I have not read the Christian Bible.

2. There are people who claim that Israel was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Joel G.'s avatar

There are people who claim that the moon walks were faked.

John's avatar

Not fearing 'Slimes isn't mindful ,it's delusional.Did last summer not happen in your reality? How about Oct 7,did that one penetrate?

Do you ever ponder tfe reason God tells us " My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge"?

Prattling about Islamaphobia ,having never read Koran is just shameful.

Are you a Democrat?

Robin Alexander's avatar

Oh yes. I think the numbers of Muslims in their country, along with a real fear of radical Islamic jihadists, motivates the politicians to do this. It's a nod to that community, an attempt to "make nice" so that they don't get uppity. Well, perhaps we need to get a bit more uppity.

John's avatar

Why do people always suggest being partners in our own destruction is desirable?

Posts as brain dead as yours are a rarity here, thankfully.

Robin Alexander's avatar

I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say. But, whatever.

John's avatar

I think that may well be,so why not restate it? If I falsely rebuked you,I do apologize,but it's not impossible that a Lefty might stumble in here,and that sort of attitude is distressing.

Robin Alexander's avatar

I would have to re-read the piece (I read a lot of stuff every day) and I just don't have the time. But . . . that's okay. Peace.

Laura's avatar

In addition to that, it hides the fact that most of the antisemitism is coming from muslims. I'm sick of politicians lumping muslims in with Jews even though muslims are the worst perpetrators of antisemitic hate crimes. muslims are particularly adept at turning their aggression into a narrative of their own victimhood. Of course, with milquetoast western politicians as their useful idiots.

Joel G.'s avatar

It’s coming from the Muslims, the stupid and ideological leftists and the few scum buckets on the right such as Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and that fake historian Daryl Cooper.

John's avatar

Don't forget the most dangerous of all,CIA front Elon Musk.

John's avatar

That I agree with and it illustrates that it is Luciferian government that fosters Jew Hate.

China Joe has always been a Jew Hater.

Trump paid for an hour of network time before the 2016 election to make crystal clear that his support for Israel is absolute and unwavering.

I predict brighter days beginning Jan 20 in America but overall I really believe Israel's rebirth immediately began the countdown to Armegeddon and things will likely be worse before they are better.

EKB ✡️ 🕎's avatar

One of my major gripes is when people have to include other hatreds when condemning antisemitism. Nobody does that for any other form of bigotry. Remember when Congress had to "all lives matter" antisemitism when Pelosi was Speaker. Somehow you can't just be against Judenhass. That Jews buy into this is ridiculous. The diaspora Jewish communities are led by useless and spineless people.

John's avatar

I don't see spinelessness in this. I see prudence and discretion and I don't see a bright future for insisting people stop putting Jews last and instead put them first.

Half the Jew Haters I encounter on line claim to be Christians.They have no excuse not only do they essentially claim Tanskh,their own Paul tells them they are not the Root, Israel is.They are mere ingrafted branches and can be just as easily outgrafted .

If they won't even heed their own Bible and they think Jews are horrible parasites and all manner of hate fantasies are readily believed,I don't see them being receptive to Jews demanding extra consideration.

EKB ✡️ 🕎's avatar

It’s not extra consideration, it’s consideration period. The fact that anyone would consider it extra consideration because Jews demand the recognition that antisemitism is an evil separate from other evils shows that ignorance and Jew hatred is alive and well. If these are friends of yours, you need better friends. If this is how your form of Christianity views Jews and antisemitism I suggest you have no idea who Jesus was and what he stood for.

John's avatar

Yes,but I mean extra as more than presently,which could still be less than basic human decency,and be strongly resisted.

I just don't believe it will happen until Armegeddon takes out the trash .

Most Churchians have no clue Armegeddon is God's Vengeance on Jew Haters,because they waste their lives profaning the Sabbath.

John's avatar

If it can be diluted,advantage Jew Haters.

Steve S's avatar

Since much of the Jew hatred comes from Islamic countries and immigrants from these countries, especially in Europe, it is odd, dilutive, and cross messaging to also decry Islamaphobia to folk decrying anti-semitism. Somewhat akin to folk calling out Jew hatred coming from nazis while also decrying folk who are nazi phobic.

John's avatar

Well, a lot of people use that freely for everyone they disagree with and especially Jews.

Aly Boltman's avatar

This has been the Liberal party approach in Canada too and it’s made the Jewish population nuts when hate crimes against Jewish people are off the charts and we make up only a fraction of the population. Islamic hate crimes exist, of course, but not nearly at the same level and Muslims make up a much larger segment of the population. It’s actually part of what brought down the Liberals and why the Conservatives are about to win in a landslide in Canada this year, stealing votes from former “progressive” Jews who no longer feel seen or safe with the Liberal party.

John's avatar

Rebel News dot com.

If you don't have a strong VPN,you will get fake error msgs,but Proton VPN gets through.

Des8's avatar

This universalism is taught at the (non-orthodox) US Jewish day schools my kids were at in several states. Especially when it comes to Holocaust studies — the message was regularly universalized. So this problem is also in parts of the Jewish education system.

John's avatar

I told the Rabbi of our Conservative Congregation not to participate in interfaith crapola with 'Slimes.I told him good has no fraternity with evil and they just want a crack at our women.

To me,our women are tfe ultimate proof against people trying to claim we are tfe same people as the 'Slimes.

No group has women as beautiful as ours,inside and out.

And there are no better mothers,either.

Jonah's avatar

Black Lives Matter not only hated the idea that All lives matter (and people were killed for saying that) the organization was profoundly anti-Semitic and opposed Israel on their website.

John's avatar

Also,it's founders are on YouTube proudly proclaiming themselves not just Marxists,TRAINED Marxists.

Anne On's avatar

No rule when to be specific and when to blend. Need to pick the right circumstance. Be specific as a separate protest but imo not a good idea to stand out in a generic protest against hate. You already pointed out that it will breed resentment. Watch video on Messy Times / Christopher Messina about Jews being ushered away from a pal protest in Melbourne. Needs to be counterbalanced by specific Jewish protest.

John's avatar

That is so spot on.Thanks!

John's avatar

The Crown is the Deep State,has been since it's inception.All it's "Former " dominions are still under it's heel.

It's why Canada, Australia etc, are knee jerk loons just like England and Ireland.

Dana Ramos's avatar

Sadly, no matter how Jews try to highlight antisemitism--whether inclusive of other groups or not--people roll their eyes, or ignore it, or worse. Similarly, no matter what Israel does, they are vilified: Providing aid to the Gazans, not providing enough aid to the Gazans; trying to be careful not to harm "civilians," with targeted attacks, not careful enough and by targeted attacks; giving in to extraordinary demands for peace, not giving in enough, and so on.

jerry kleiner's avatar

I would not put most of the blame for hate inclusion on Jews, but instead, the blame mostly goes to the media and the politicians. There have been many Jewish events on antisemitism where politicians attending broadened it to include all hate and specifically to mention Islamophobia. The reason is quite obvious ..... they did not want to alienate the Muslim vote. Mainstream media has for a long time been biased against Israel and has minimized Jewish suffering in the Diaspora either by not highlighting the story or by just simply not reporting it.

papa j

Brian's avatar

It’s time to be proud of and openly respectful of our Jewish heritage. If we don’t openly respect ourselves why should any one else? And yes, then we can address the specifics of antisemitism.

Robin Alexander's avatar

Yes! This is the kind of education that is needed!

Steven Brizel's avatar

The best antidote to anti Semitism is a positive and committed sense of Jewish identity and continuity

John's avatar

BLM,DEI and similar are Marxist Manipulation,and the very biggest clue that made these scams transparent is their narrow focus.

All Lives Matter was actually a popular T-Shirt motif for those brave souls who rejected the Commie Narrative that it represents.

Jew Hate is the fruit of Luciferian government, which sustains it because God's People Israel must lose for Satan's people to prevail on Earth.

And I can't help but be concerned that such an in your face approach would lead to the same reaction as did the BLM scam,and it would require stressing the uniqueness of Israel to counter that reaction .

And that very uniqueness is what inflames the jealousy of Gentiles.

Steven Brizel's avatar

Rallies that ignore the unique aspects of anti Semitism are doomed to fail to have any impact on reducing anti Semitism

John's avatar

Luciferian Evil could not persist without rigged games.

If you want to blame White Europeans for Blacks alone or Arabs alone that's fine,but they won't allow it for Jews.

For graphic real life examples of how this works in Canada,Rebel News.com.

Christopher Messina's avatar

You write: "Imagine if the Black Lives Matter movement had framed its messaging around “All Lives Matter.” Such an approach would have been seen — rightly — as dismissive and counterproductive. Specificity matters because it forces society to confront uncomfortable truths. It compels us to acknowledge that some forms of hatred require targeted responses."

Unfortunately, I think you have this exactly wrong. The cry of "Black Lives Matter" was based on a series of lies, like "Hands up - don't shoot!" and the false statistical claim about black Americans being gunned down by racist police, when all that turned out to be nonsense. "Black Lives Matter" was divisive, based on lies and in the end did nothing but enrich 3 black lesbian Marxists (self-described) who got into trouble with the IRS and bought million-dollar real estate portfolios in predominantly white neighborhoods.

On the other hand, focused Jew hatred is very real and needs to be called out specifically. You are correct in that, but given the evil assholes at BLM celebrated October 7th and put out shirts and posters and Tweets with graphics containing Fakestinian murderers in paragliders, this is a particularly inapt analogue.

It is true that people hate Jews and are attacking us constantly. Many of the people calling for that hatred are BLM members who loved taking cash donations from - among others - liberal Jews.

Jew Hatred is real in America. The lies of BLM about disproportionate danger to black Americans from cops are just that - lies.

Diane Steiner's avatar

A very insightful article, Joshua. As you said, the humanity tag is a broad brushstroke in which antisemitism gets lost in. Antisemitism is a very specific kind of hate, but as long as there is silence and a need to fit in with the masses, it will continue as it always has. When Orthodox Jews are attacked in New York, there is always a statement by the NYPD to look into whether it was a "hate" crime. As if their attire isn't a clue as to what religion they represent. The only time anything is said is when organizations such as the ADL come out with polite, prepared statements that this will not be tolerated. End of story. All I read about is how Jewish organizations are fighting against antisemitism, but this is a misnomer because as I read between the lines, it's about "research" into it. Hasn't there been enough research to know how to fight this stain on humanity? How about some real tangible ways to do it, other than report an incident to the police, university, etc., a method that goes nowhere. Fear and band aids will change nothing. I agree with you wholeheartedly, specificity is necessary.