Imagine if the Black Lives Matter movement had framed its messaging around “All Lives Matter.” Such an approach would have been seen — rightly — as dismissive and counterproductive.
Very interesting. I also noticed that whenever politicians particularly in the United Kingdom and Australia condemn antisemitism, they always attach it with being against “Islamophobia”. That tends to dilute the problem of antisemitism that we have today.
Another interesting thing about this linking is, that in my experience Jews are not mindlessly Islamophobic. Most of the anti-Muslim sentiment post 9/11 rose up through the general population. It wasn't connected to Jews or Israel at all, except among conspiracy theorists.
O you who believe! Take not the Jews or the Christians to be your friend;,they are friends of each other.,and who among you takes them to be your friend is one of them...Surely Allah does not guide the unjust.
That's their " Great respect" for " The People of the Book".
I don't have time to type more out,but you should really check Sura 5 in an on line Koran.
That's the one that tells them unequivocally that Israel belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them.
As soon as I can afford it,I am going to have custom Tshirts made with Sura 5 printed in block letters.
5:20 "And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, 'O my people! Remember Allah’s favours upon you when He raised prophets from among you, made you sovereign, and gave you what He had never given anyone in the world.' "
5:21 "O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers.”
Oh yes. I think the numbers of Muslims in their country, along with a real fear of radical Islamic jihadists, motivates the politicians to do this. It's a nod to that community, an attempt to "make nice" so that they don't get uppity. Well, perhaps we need to get a bit more uppity.
I think that may well be,so why not restate it? If I falsely rebuked you,I do apologize,but it's not impossible that a Lefty might stumble in here,and that sort of attitude is distressing.
In addition to that, it hides the fact that most of the antisemitism is coming from muslims. I'm sick of politicians lumping muslims in with Jews even though muslims are the worst perpetrators of antisemitic hate crimes. muslims are particularly adept at turning their aggression into a narrative of their own victimhood. Of course, with milquetoast western politicians as their useful idiots.
It’s coming from the Muslims, the stupid and ideological leftists and the few scum buckets on the right such as Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and that fake historian Daryl Cooper.
That I agree with and it illustrates that it is Luciferian government that fosters Jew Hate.
China Joe has always been a Jew Hater.
Trump paid for an hour of network time before the 2016 election to make crystal clear that his support for Israel is absolute and unwavering.
I predict brighter days beginning Jan 20 in America but overall I really believe Israel's rebirth immediately began the countdown to Armegeddon and things will likely be worse before they are better.
One of my major gripes is when people have to include other hatreds when condemning antisemitism. Nobody does that for any other form of bigotry. Remember when Congress had to "all lives matter" antisemitism when Pelosi was Speaker. Somehow you can't just be against Judenhass. That Jews buy into this is ridiculous. The diaspora Jewish communities are led by useless and spineless people.
I don't see spinelessness in this. I see prudence and discretion and I don't see a bright future for insisting people stop putting Jews last and instead put them first.
Half the Jew Haters I encounter on line claim to be Christians.They have no excuse not only do they essentially claim Tanskh,their own Paul tells them they are not the Root, Israel is.They are mere ingrafted branches and can be just as easily outgrafted .
If they won't even heed their own Bible and they think Jews are horrible parasites and all manner of hate fantasies are readily believed,I don't see them being receptive to Jews demanding extra consideration.
It’s not extra consideration, it’s consideration period. The fact that anyone would consider it extra consideration because Jews demand the recognition that antisemitism is an evil separate from other evils shows that ignorance and Jew hatred is alive and well. If these are friends of yours, you need better friends. If this is how your form of Christianity views Jews and antisemitism I suggest you have no idea who Jesus was and what he stood for.
Since much of the Jew hatred comes from Islamic countries and immigrants from these countries, especially in Europe, it is odd, dilutive, and cross messaging to also decry Islamaphobia to folk decrying anti-semitism. Somewhat akin to folk calling out Jew hatred coming from nazis while also decrying folk who are nazi phobic.
This has been the Liberal party approach in Canada too and it’s made the Jewish population nuts when hate crimes against Jewish people are off the charts and we make up only a fraction of the population. Islamic hate crimes exist, of course, but not nearly at the same level and Muslims make up a much larger segment of the population. It’s actually part of what brought down the Liberals and why the Conservatives are about to win in a landslide in Canada this year, stealing votes from former “progressive” Jews who no longer feel seen or safe with the Liberal party.
Spot on! Thank you, Joshua. There are so many (antisemitic) responses to the simple question: "Are you against antisemitism?"
1) "I am against ALL types of hate!" is a response that people give out to imply that antisemitism is not a major issue because the victim is viewed as unharmed. "Jewish people are doing fine, so they have no right to prioritize their problems."
2) "Yes, but" brings to mind the truism "Everything before the 'but' is bullshit". The "Yes, but" response is what people say to establish that antisemitism is acceptable up to a certain amount.
3) "It's complicated." or "This is a nuanced situation." No, it isn't complicated at all. It is quite simple and honest to be against antisemitism, period. It is only complicated when people want to virtue-signal as antiracist while simultaneously engaging in racism against the Jewish community and Israel. See: the Left when anybody mentions Zionism or Jewish people fighting to defend their homeland.
TL;DR Just support the Jewish community and be against antisemitism in the same way that you would be against racism for virtually every other demographic.
I am stunned to see so very many did not notice that BLM was widely mocked and rejected for being narrowly focused and I don't have any clue why on Earth anyone would imagine it would be an easier sell if it were Jews instead of Blacks.
I think BLM ended up being mocked and rejected NOT because they were narrowly focused, but because the claims were vastly exaggerated or false (claims that there was a "holocaust" against Black people, that cops targeted Blacks, that hate was widespread). There was no uprising of white people around the world marching against Black people. And then, it turned out that BLM was stealing the money donated and the leaders bought luxury homes and more. And it was revealed that almost zero of the nearly 100 million dollars raised by BLM went to any charitable organization or project supporting Black people, but instead--into the pockets of the leaders of the sham organization.
Those factors came in AFTER BLM raked in millions of dollars,mainly from Deep State Corporations.
The ultimate rejection came from individuals,not the Deep State that engendered it.
They are still pushing it today,just not a openly .
It's gotten MORE absurd since the demise of BLM.
EVERY episode of The Price is Right maintains an averageof fifty percent Blacks at Contestants Row,and just last week,the Wheel featured three out of three Blacks.Often,both contestants at the Showcase Showdown are Black, and their numbers in the audience don't come close to supporting that nonsense.
And it's sad to note that it is Adam Sandler perpetrating this racist obscenity. He has completely lost my respect.
The Network News rarely fails to fill time with local personal interest stories focused on Blacks that would be more appropriate for local news if even that newsworthy .
And I do believe the obviously racist,narrow focus iIts just s why it's been rejected by Mr Trump and the American Public.
It's ridiculous that tfe lefty's talk generational wealth.
There were Black American slave holders and Black millionaires before the Civil War.and since 1965,they have ridden a free money gravy train ,a huge transfer of wealth .
They do not need anyone's inheritance,they drive brand new cars,wear designer clothes,own massive luxuriant homes.its just plain Marxist warfare.
This universalism is taught at the (non-orthodox) US Jewish day schools my kids were at in several states. Especially when it comes to Holocaust studies — the message was regularly universalized. So this problem is also in parts of the Jewish education system.
I told the Rabbi of our Conservative Congregation not to participate in interfaith crapola with 'Slimes.I told him good has no fraternity with evil and they just want a crack at our women.
To me,our women are tfe ultimate proof against people trying to claim we are tfe same people as the 'Slimes.
No group has women as beautiful as ours,inside and out.
Black Lives Matter not only hated the idea that All lives matter (and people were killed for saying that) the organization was profoundly anti-Semitic and opposed Israel on their website.
No rule when to be specific and when to blend. Need to pick the right circumstance. Be specific as a separate protest but imo not a good idea to stand out in a generic protest against hate. You already pointed out that it will breed resentment. Watch video on Messy Times / Christopher Messina about Jews being ushered away from a pal protest in Melbourne. Needs to be counterbalanced by specific Jewish protest.
Sadly, no matter how Jews try to highlight antisemitism--whether inclusive of other groups or not--people roll their eyes, or ignore it, or worse. Similarly, no matter what Israel does, they are vilified: Providing aid to the Gazans, not providing enough aid to the Gazans; trying to be careful not to harm "civilians," with targeted attacks, not careful enough and by targeted attacks; giving in to extraordinary demands for peace, not giving in enough, and so on.
I would not put most of the blame for hate inclusion on Jews, but instead, the blame mostly goes to the media and the politicians. There have been many Jewish events on antisemitism where politicians attending broadened it to include all hate and specifically to mention Islamophobia. The reason is quite obvious ..... they did not want to alienate the Muslim vote. Mainstream media has for a long time been biased against Israel and has minimized Jewish suffering in the Diaspora either by not highlighting the story or by just simply not reporting it.
It’s time to be proud of and openly respectful of our Jewish heritage. If we don’t openly respect ourselves why should any one else? And yes, then we can address the specifics of antisemitism.
BLM,DEI and similar are Marxist Manipulation,and the very biggest clue that made these scams transparent is their narrow focus.
All Lives Matter was actually a popular T-Shirt motif for those brave souls who rejected the Commie Narrative that it represents.
Jew Hate is the fruit of Luciferian government, which sustains it because God's People Israel must lose for Satan's people to prevail on Earth.
And I can't help but be concerned that such an in your face approach would lead to the same reaction as did the BLM scam,and it would require stressing the uniqueness of Israel to counter that reaction .
And that very uniqueness is what inflames the jealousy of Gentiles.
You write: "Imagine if the Black Lives Matter movement had framed its messaging around “All Lives Matter.” Such an approach would have been seen — rightly — as dismissive and counterproductive. Specificity matters because it forces society to confront uncomfortable truths. It compels us to acknowledge that some forms of hatred require targeted responses."
Unfortunately, I think you have this exactly wrong. The cry of "Black Lives Matter" was based on a series of lies, like "Hands up - don't shoot!" and the false statistical claim about black Americans being gunned down by racist police, when all that turned out to be nonsense. "Black Lives Matter" was divisive, based on lies and in the end did nothing but enrich 3 black lesbian Marxists (self-described) who got into trouble with the IRS and bought million-dollar real estate portfolios in predominantly white neighborhoods.
On the other hand, focused Jew hatred is very real and needs to be called out specifically. You are correct in that, but given the evil assholes at BLM celebrated October 7th and put out shirts and posters and Tweets with graphics containing Fakestinian murderers in paragliders, this is a particularly inapt analogue.
It is true that people hate Jews and are attacking us constantly. Many of the people calling for that hatred are BLM members who loved taking cash donations from - among others - liberal Jews.
Jew Hatred is real in America. The lies of BLM about disproportionate danger to black Americans from cops are just that - lies.
Very interesting. I also noticed that whenever politicians particularly in the United Kingdom and Australia condemn antisemitism, they always attach it with being against “Islamophobia”. That tends to dilute the problem of antisemitism that we have today.
Another interesting thing about this linking is, that in my experience Jews are not mindlessly Islamophobic. Most of the anti-Muslim sentiment post 9/11 rose up through the general population. It wasn't connected to Jews or Israel at all, except among conspiracy theorists.
Have you read Koran? Conspiracy theorists?
Almost 45 years ago I bought an English translation of the Korean. It was a paperback and I gave up after about 10 pages. It was unreadable.
Same....and same for Said's now religiously regarded Orientalism which is pure horse manure.
There are various translations on line.
A little of what you missed:
O you who believe! Take not the Jews or the Christians to be your friend;,they are friends of each other.,and who among you takes them to be your friend is one of them...Surely Allah does not guide the unjust.
That's their " Great respect" for " The People of the Book".
I don't have time to type more out,but you should really check Sura 5 in an on line Koran.
That's the one that tells them unequivocally that Israel belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them.
As soon as I can afford it,I am going to have custom Tshirts made with Sura 5 printed in block letters.
5:20 "And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, 'O my people! Remember Allah’s favours upon you when He raised prophets from among you, made you sovereign, and gave you what He had never given anyone in the world.' "
5:21 "O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers.”
1. I have not read the Koran. I have not read the Christian Bible.
2. There are people who claim that Israel was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Not fearing 'Slimes isn't mindful ,it's delusional.Did last summer not happen in your reality? How about Oct 7,did that one penetrate?
Do you ever ponder tfe reason God tells us " My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge"?
Prattling about Islamaphobia ,having never read Koran is just shameful.
Are you a Democrat?
Oh yes. I think the numbers of Muslims in their country, along with a real fear of radical Islamic jihadists, motivates the politicians to do this. It's a nod to that community, an attempt to "make nice" so that they don't get uppity. Well, perhaps we need to get a bit more uppity.
Why do people always suggest being partners in our own destruction is desirable?
Posts as brain dead as yours are a rarity here, thankfully.
I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say. But, whatever.
I think that may well be,so why not restate it? If I falsely rebuked you,I do apologize,but it's not impossible that a Lefty might stumble in here,and that sort of attitude is distressing.
I would have to re-read the piece (I read a lot of stuff every day) and I just don't have the time. But . . . that's okay. Peace.
In addition to that, it hides the fact that most of the antisemitism is coming from muslims. I'm sick of politicians lumping muslims in with Jews even though muslims are the worst perpetrators of antisemitic hate crimes. muslims are particularly adept at turning their aggression into a narrative of their own victimhood. Of course, with milquetoast western politicians as their useful idiots.
It’s coming from the Muslims, the stupid and ideological leftists and the few scum buckets on the right such as Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and that fake historian Daryl Cooper.
Don't forget the most dangerous of all,CIA front Elon Musk.
That I agree with and it illustrates that it is Luciferian government that fosters Jew Hate.
China Joe has always been a Jew Hater.
Trump paid for an hour of network time before the 2016 election to make crystal clear that his support for Israel is absolute and unwavering.
I predict brighter days beginning Jan 20 in America but overall I really believe Israel's rebirth immediately began the countdown to Armegeddon and things will likely be worse before they are better.
One of my major gripes is when people have to include other hatreds when condemning antisemitism. Nobody does that for any other form of bigotry. Remember when Congress had to "all lives matter" antisemitism when Pelosi was Speaker. Somehow you can't just be against Judenhass. That Jews buy into this is ridiculous. The diaspora Jewish communities are led by useless and spineless people.
I don't see spinelessness in this. I see prudence and discretion and I don't see a bright future for insisting people stop putting Jews last and instead put them first.
Half the Jew Haters I encounter on line claim to be Christians.They have no excuse not only do they essentially claim Tanskh,their own Paul tells them they are not the Root, Israel is.They are mere ingrafted branches and can be just as easily outgrafted .
If they won't even heed their own Bible and they think Jews are horrible parasites and all manner of hate fantasies are readily believed,I don't see them being receptive to Jews demanding extra consideration.
It’s not extra consideration, it’s consideration period. The fact that anyone would consider it extra consideration because Jews demand the recognition that antisemitism is an evil separate from other evils shows that ignorance and Jew hatred is alive and well. If these are friends of yours, you need better friends. If this is how your form of Christianity views Jews and antisemitism I suggest you have no idea who Jesus was and what he stood for.
Yes,but I mean extra as more than presently,which could still be less than basic human decency,and be strongly resisted.
I just don't believe it will happen until Armegeddon takes out the trash .
Most Churchians have no clue Armegeddon is God's Vengeance on Jew Haters,because they waste their lives profaning the Sabbath.
If it can be diluted,advantage Jew Haters.
Since much of the Jew hatred comes from Islamic countries and immigrants from these countries, especially in Europe, it is odd, dilutive, and cross messaging to also decry Islamaphobia to folk decrying anti-semitism. Somewhat akin to folk calling out Jew hatred coming from nazis while also decrying folk who are nazi phobic.
Well, a lot of people use that freely for everyone they disagree with and especially Jews.
This has been the Liberal party approach in Canada too and it’s made the Jewish population nuts when hate crimes against Jewish people are off the charts and we make up only a fraction of the population. Islamic hate crimes exist, of course, but not nearly at the same level and Muslims make up a much larger segment of the population. It’s actually part of what brought down the Liberals and why the Conservatives are about to win in a landslide in Canada this year, stealing votes from former “progressive” Jews who no longer feel seen or safe with the Liberal party.
Rebel News dot com.
If you don't have a strong VPN,you will get fake error msgs,but Proton VPN gets through.
Spot on! Thank you, Joshua. There are so many (antisemitic) responses to the simple question: "Are you against antisemitism?"
1) "I am against ALL types of hate!" is a response that people give out to imply that antisemitism is not a major issue because the victim is viewed as unharmed. "Jewish people are doing fine, so they have no right to prioritize their problems."
2) "Yes, but" brings to mind the truism "Everything before the 'but' is bullshit". The "Yes, but" response is what people say to establish that antisemitism is acceptable up to a certain amount.
3) "It's complicated." or "This is a nuanced situation." No, it isn't complicated at all. It is quite simple and honest to be against antisemitism, period. It is only complicated when people want to virtue-signal as antiracist while simultaneously engaging in racism against the Jewish community and Israel. See: the Left when anybody mentions Zionism or Jewish people fighting to defend their homeland.
TL;DR Just support the Jewish community and be against antisemitism in the same way that you would be against racism for virtually every other demographic.
Such moral clarity, Louis.
Thank you, Kathy! Substack is helping me grow and align myself with truth, more and more. There is an amazing community of Zionists here!
I am stunned to see so very many did not notice that BLM was widely mocked and rejected for being narrowly focused and I don't have any clue why on Earth anyone would imagine it would be an easier sell if it were Jews instead of Blacks.
I think BLM ended up being mocked and rejected NOT because they were narrowly focused, but because the claims were vastly exaggerated or false (claims that there was a "holocaust" against Black people, that cops targeted Blacks, that hate was widespread). There was no uprising of white people around the world marching against Black people. And then, it turned out that BLM was stealing the money donated and the leaders bought luxury homes and more. And it was revealed that almost zero of the nearly 100 million dollars raised by BLM went to any charitable organization or project supporting Black people, but instead--into the pockets of the leaders of the sham organization.
Those factors came in AFTER BLM raked in millions of dollars,mainly from Deep State Corporations.
The ultimate rejection came from individuals,not the Deep State that engendered it.
They are still pushing it today,just not a openly .
It's gotten MORE absurd since the demise of BLM.
EVERY episode of The Price is Right maintains an averageof fifty percent Blacks at Contestants Row,and just last week,the Wheel featured three out of three Blacks.Often,both contestants at the Showcase Showdown are Black, and their numbers in the audience don't come close to supporting that nonsense.
And it's sad to note that it is Adam Sandler perpetrating this racist obscenity. He has completely lost my respect.
The Network News rarely fails to fill time with local personal interest stories focused on Blacks that would be more appropriate for local news if even that newsworthy .
And I do believe the obviously racist,narrow focus iIts just s why it's been rejected by Mr Trump and the American Public.
It's ridiculous that tfe lefty's talk generational wealth.
There were Black American slave holders and Black millionaires before the Civil War.and since 1965,they have ridden a free money gravy train ,a huge transfer of wealth .
They do not need anyone's inheritance,they drive brand new cars,wear designer clothes,own massive luxuriant homes.its just plain Marxist warfare.
This universalism is taught at the (non-orthodox) US Jewish day schools my kids were at in several states. Especially when it comes to Holocaust studies — the message was regularly universalized. So this problem is also in parts of the Jewish education system.
I told the Rabbi of our Conservative Congregation not to participate in interfaith crapola with 'Slimes.I told him good has no fraternity with evil and they just want a crack at our women.
To me,our women are tfe ultimate proof against people trying to claim we are tfe same people as the 'Slimes.
No group has women as beautiful as ours,inside and out.
And there are no better mothers,either.
Black Lives Matter not only hated the idea that All lives matter (and people were killed for saying that) the organization was profoundly anti-Semitic and opposed Israel on their website.
Also,it's founders are on YouTube proudly proclaiming themselves not just Marxists,TRAINED Marxists.
Indeed.
No rule when to be specific and when to blend. Need to pick the right circumstance. Be specific as a separate protest but imo not a good idea to stand out in a generic protest against hate. You already pointed out that it will breed resentment. Watch video on Messy Times / Christopher Messina about Jews being ushered away from a pal protest in Melbourne. Needs to be counterbalanced by specific Jewish protest.
That is so spot on.Thanks!
The Crown is the Deep State,has been since it's inception.All it's "Former " dominions are still under it's heel.
It's why Canada, Australia etc, are knee jerk loons just like England and Ireland.
Sadly, no matter how Jews try to highlight antisemitism--whether inclusive of other groups or not--people roll their eyes, or ignore it, or worse. Similarly, no matter what Israel does, they are vilified: Providing aid to the Gazans, not providing enough aid to the Gazans; trying to be careful not to harm "civilians," with targeted attacks, not careful enough and by targeted attacks; giving in to extraordinary demands for peace, not giving in enough, and so on.
I would not put most of the blame for hate inclusion on Jews, but instead, the blame mostly goes to the media and the politicians. There have been many Jewish events on antisemitism where politicians attending broadened it to include all hate and specifically to mention Islamophobia. The reason is quite obvious ..... they did not want to alienate the Muslim vote. Mainstream media has for a long time been biased against Israel and has minimized Jewish suffering in the Diaspora either by not highlighting the story or by just simply not reporting it.
papa j
It’s time to be proud of and openly respectful of our Jewish heritage. If we don’t openly respect ourselves why should any one else? And yes, then we can address the specifics of antisemitism.
Yes! This is the kind of education that is needed!
BLM,DEI and similar are Marxist Manipulation,and the very biggest clue that made these scams transparent is their narrow focus.
All Lives Matter was actually a popular T-Shirt motif for those brave souls who rejected the Commie Narrative that it represents.
Jew Hate is the fruit of Luciferian government, which sustains it because God's People Israel must lose for Satan's people to prevail on Earth.
And I can't help but be concerned that such an in your face approach would lead to the same reaction as did the BLM scam,and it would require stressing the uniqueness of Israel to counter that reaction .
And that very uniqueness is what inflames the jealousy of Gentiles.
The best antidote to anti Semitism is a positive and committed sense of Jewish identity and continuity
Rallies that ignore the unique aspects of anti Semitism are doomed to fail to have any impact on reducing anti Semitism
Luciferian Evil could not persist without rigged games.
If you want to blame White Europeans for Blacks alone or Arabs alone that's fine,but they won't allow it for Jews.
For graphic real life examples of how this works in Canada,Rebel News.com.
You write: "Imagine if the Black Lives Matter movement had framed its messaging around “All Lives Matter.” Such an approach would have been seen — rightly — as dismissive and counterproductive. Specificity matters because it forces society to confront uncomfortable truths. It compels us to acknowledge that some forms of hatred require targeted responses."
Unfortunately, I think you have this exactly wrong. The cry of "Black Lives Matter" was based on a series of lies, like "Hands up - don't shoot!" and the false statistical claim about black Americans being gunned down by racist police, when all that turned out to be nonsense. "Black Lives Matter" was divisive, based on lies and in the end did nothing but enrich 3 black lesbian Marxists (self-described) who got into trouble with the IRS and bought million-dollar real estate portfolios in predominantly white neighborhoods.
On the other hand, focused Jew hatred is very real and needs to be called out specifically. You are correct in that, but given the evil assholes at BLM celebrated October 7th and put out shirts and posters and Tweets with graphics containing Fakestinian murderers in paragliders, this is a particularly inapt analogue.
It is true that people hate Jews and are attacking us constantly. Many of the people calling for that hatred are BLM members who loved taking cash donations from - among others - liberal Jews.
Jew Hatred is real in America. The lies of BLM about disproportionate danger to black Americans from cops are just that - lies.