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Richard Baker's avatar

First, the anti-semites don't believe in "Let us reason together" from Isaiah 1:18. Second, as has been the case for centuries, these crazies will continue to blame Jews for every ill under the sun such as in the Third Reich. Third, defend yourselves because no one else will in this day and age and that includes other Jews, sadly. I'm a Catholic and support Israel just because.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

At a certain point (maybe 1000 years) you have to realize that “everyone else” isn’t the asshole here.

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Dan's avatar

Einsatzgruppen.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

It’s a fish pun

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Richard Hacker's avatar

To paraphrase, while occupied with events elsewhere, there arose in Egypt a pharoah who knew not Joseph. If the priorities of the liberal Democrat Jews in my neighborhood are an indication of those elsewhere, therein lies the problem. While concentrating on PM Netanyahu, so-called "settler" violence, and judicial reform in Israel, a place where they have no influence nor a vote, they neglected their own back gate. Comforted by the illusion that someone else was watching the gate for them, the enemy came to that back gate and found that gate open. Now the work to drive the enemy back out will be three times as hard. Good luck with that.

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Robbin Close's avatar

Excellent article and strong wake up call to all of us. I am one of those people who thought it could never happen here and now it is here in all its ugliness! Thank you.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

You’re poisoning my country with your ancient ethic beefs. Go do it in your own country, we’re sick of you

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Sarah's avatar

Me too.

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Miriamnae's avatar

You are so right to speak for Torah. In all of this evil rising since October 7, not that Jew hatred had ever disappeared, I drew back to the Torah and Tanak and it is all there: internal validity. Our history and path forward.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

Great. Go do that in your own country, and stop poisoning mine with your ancient conflicts

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Dan's avatar

Hitler killed millions in Russia with the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. You support him. So You are the real conflict monger and poisoner with your support for Nazis and your recruiting others to do the same again. We know this because you come here with the name Einsatz Grouper.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

Genocided was the sprint of the age. All sides in World War Two engaged in it with abandon. The lesson from WW1 was “do everything and anything to make the war end quickly”, half measures were seen as the reason why WW1 dragged on. That’s how you get to the idea that it’s okay to burn cities full of civilians. And why, after the war, it was so important to paint the loser’s war crimes as “beyond the pale”.

That’s been American foreign policy since at least the Mexican American war: kick the dog until it bites, declare it a mad dog, shoot the dog.

There’s really only one possible explanations for our choices leading up to WW2: some kind of affinity for communism. People forget that all the cool kids were commies coming out of the depression, if you went to Harvard or Yale in 1930s you most likely thought capitalism had failed and communism (or some version of Marxism) was the future. These attitudes were really socially acceptable in elite circles until the Prague spring, the notion that our elites in the 40s and 50s were all rock-ribbed anti-communists is simply false. That was true in Texas and California but the NE where the real power lay was the land of Brandeis and Morgenthau. Trotskyism was openly advocated amongst this class until Prauge. (When this cadre of mostly Jewish anti-Stalin leftists from CUNY broke w the left following the 67 war they became the “neo-conservatives”, socially left wing foreign policy hawks, who still believed in the global revolution against autocrats)

These people are STILL IN CHARGE. We’ve NEVER been an opponent of communism, we’ve been a rival left wing revolutionary regime. Our foreign policy is very literally still Trotskyite.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

The holocaust would not have happened, or would at least be missing a zero, if we hadn’t encircled Germany. The holocaust was a crime of hot blood by a National facing annihilation. The Soviets killed 4x as much, in cold blood. You’re viewing events backwards and using contingent actions to justify gross the gross aggression that caused them.

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Dan's avatar

Not True. Hitler expressly ordered the murder of all Russians so their land could be stolen ‘For Lebensraum in the East for The Ethnic Germans’. Direct quote. This is in Mein Kampf. Goebbels justified all of this when he repeatedly called the Russians ‘A Conglomeration of Animals’. 27 Million Russian folk were murdered, many many more than were killed under Communism. You are a Nazi, Einsatzgruppen. And a liar too.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

Hitler didn’t “order” anyone to do anything with his musings. Everyone in Germany had just lived through starvation. Everyone knew they needed to be able to feed themselves. Taking the Ukrainian grain belt away from the communists was an obvious solution. I don’t believe the Germans would have starved the Ukraine. They might have kicked the population out, but close the borders and keep everyone trapped until they all died like the Soviets did? No way. That’s a uniquely Soviet thing, based on the belief that there was a “kulak” class that needed liquidation. They already owned it and they wiped everyone out. Germany couldn’t have been worse

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

At a time when Stalin was moving people around Russia w force by the tens of millions it seemed fairly reasonable to exile hostile elements from the Pale of Settlement. They’d just watched Stalin’s NKVD intentionally starve 5 million people to death in just the Ukraine, so yeah they wanted to clear the orcs out of Mordor, but nobody was contemplating some mechanized Soviet-style slaughter of the peasantry.

The people in the Ukraine welcomed the Germans as liberators and the GERMANS were protecting the Jews in The Ukraine from the local Slavs (Bandera et al)

Ukrainians and Poles and the Slavs in the Baltics hated Jews about 10x more than the SS - because they’d ACTUALLY lived under the Judeo-Bolshevik tyranny Germans feared. (In Poland and the Ukraine this is not the typical smear, the local Jewish population were the apparatchiks, it really was “Judeo” Bolshevism, this had been their role since the Czars within the Pale, they’d always been the bureaucratic class)

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

All of world war 2 was caused by Bolshevism, the whole thing. After watching the Soviets liquidate whole classes of people (in cold blood) for 20 years, and knowing that their expression goal is to take over Europe while they build the largest army the world has ever seen, the only moral thing to do is to try to kill that monster.

And Barbarossa did save Europe. If stalin’s not smashed he’s absolutely unstoppable by 44, probably 43. We’re talking 100k planes, 100k (really good) tanks, and 10M men under arms. Fighting on the basis of a radical ideology to destroy society and reconstitute it on the basis of arrested development.

Stopping stalin from eating Europe would have been worth several holocausts, and given that the NKVD was majority-Jewish until ~1937 it’s easy to make the case that Jews killed far more than 6 million people themselves, with their own hands, before the war even began.

Can you see how someone might think a holocaust was a good idea, especially if they know they’re going to imminently get their country destroyed? If Japan conquers California how many live Japanese do they find in those internment camps at the end?

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Dan's avatar

Hitler planned murder for theft. He said so in Mein Kampf. Do you justify the 27 million Russians who were murdered for the theft of land from ‘The Inferior Race’. All of this is well documented. Do you think Russians are an inferior Race, Einsatzgruppen?

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Larry Bone's avatar

Mamdani's candidacy supports and legitimizes antisemitism, October 7th and further creation of a much more hostle environment not only for Jewish people but for the general population.

The huge challenge is to effectively persuade enough New York City voters that they have been scammed by Mamdani's candidacy into believing that his being elected will make New York City a better place and not have to endure increased antisemitism and the degraded chaos that has afflicted San Francisco, Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis and numerous inner city communities of the poor and underprivileged.

What sort of political campaign actions would work at changing the minds of wealthy younger people who are buying into Mamdani's political hassle and just want their freebie and don't care how miserable that makes New York City for everyone else?

I don't know the answer. But your raising the alarm is a good start. I think cooperative public infomercial political ads from a coalition of Jewish community leaders, NYC business leaders and inner-city community leaders would be a good idea. Especially from the most respected leaders of all three communities.

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Miriamnae's avatar

Word from a NYC election watcher on another site is that, once again, this was rigged. I took comfort reading his detailed analysis.

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Larry Bone's avatar

Was it rigged in an illegal or unfair way? And could the election watcher go public with how the Mayorial primary might have been rigged to scam voters without this whistleblower being punished, harassed or cancelled their revelation? Or could they anonymously leak their assessment of how the primary was rigged to a media source unafraid to publish or air it or to a responsible Podcaster unafraid to "spill the beans?" In an anonymous interview?

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Miriamnae's avatar

No, he wasn’t anonymous. A pretty thorough commenter on the James Howard Kunstler site, Clusterfuck Nation, <regardless> a great researcher himself. Released this morning.

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Larry Bone's avatar

Wow. Thanks for letting us know about this. It would be great if he could get in touch with Eric Adam's campaign.

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Miriamnae's avatar

I’d have to reread but I thought he was a NYer. He had comprehensive details. JHK, substack writer, is Jewish and gets flak for support of Israel but his essays, details and interviews on what is happening in America are amazing.

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Larry Bone's avatar

Miriamnae, I read over today's James Howard Kunsler July 4th post but I didn't see anything that directly relates to the recent Mayoral primary except for his opening quote, "I can negotiate with a man who wants to make money. I can't negotiate with a communist who wants to kill me." — Josh Lippincott on "X" I haven't been able to find the post on X that contains Josh L.'s quote which seems to directly relate to antisemitism. And it is also a very succinct comparison of capitalism versus socialism and Z. Mamdani is so desperately trying to charm people and play himself off as not really actually, truthfully being a card carrying Socialist, though his denials are shrewdly put together so as not to seem too similar to Kamala Harris's hidden socialist word salads. Kunsler's post seems more general in its description of how the Far Left operates nationally. If you run across any posts directly dealing with how the recent NYC Mayoral primary might have been rigged so the Eric Adam's campaign can give them a look, it would be great if you could provide a link so we could see them too. Thanks again.

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Laura's avatar

Where is this soul-searching taking place? I haven't noticed. All I see is a party becoming increasingly radicalized while old school Democrats are silent and fearful or going along to get along with crazies now in charge of the Democrats.

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"Like the soul-searching underway in Democratic Party circles"

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Sarah's avatar

Unfortunately, from what I see, Anericans get stuck in that 'Party' mold, cheering on their Party, like it's a football team, without giving any further thought. I tried to reason with my American Jewish friend who, though believing that Netanyahu was left with no other choice, still voted Democrat because that was his 'Team'.

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Dan's avatar
Jul 4Edited

We live in new times, and support for President Trump who is a friend of Israel would be a good start. The grudge politics of the Left has now been seen for the bogus politics this always was. Then, recognise that it is White Excellence, nurtured to the total success which are the freedoms and living standards and Democracy and freedom-against-Nazism we enjoy in The West by Judeo-Christian values, which must be the intellectual starting point of such enquiry. These Facts which are truths are the Bedrock of Western prosperity and freedom. This is now the time to recognise this as fact. I have been warning about complacency in the Jewish Leadership for forty years. The danger is Neo-Nazis high inside The State. The reality however is the Nazis threaten the overthrow of Democracy, and is why The Jewish People have friends who recognise the important work we do to guarantee Freedom from Nazi Psychopaths taking power.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

The Kennedy-killing kikes of Israel are the blood enemy of every good American.

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Dan's avatar
Jul 6Edited

Hitler lost. Hitler and the Nazis killed 50 million people, including 27 Million Russian souls, and half a million American and Allied servicemen. Einsatzgruppen, you would do the same again. You are a looser too. Like the fish though.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

It’s a fish pun, settle down.

50m is the total war dead, even the exaggerated Nuremberg numbers only put them at about 350,000

We used even more egregious tactics in Viet Nam. Not even the Nazis ever declared a free fire zone whereby everyone who was seen was shot. We did that.

If you want to get technical I’d be willing to bet the holocaust had a much better communist to non-communist kill ratio than we achieved in Viet Nam.

We spent decades using body counts as a victory metric. The only difference between America and WW2 Germany isn’t that the Germans had the guts to look the communists in the eye, we burned them from airplanes, as has been put want since Dresden.

Everyone was committing genocide, it was the spirit of the age. The difference between ourselves and the Germans is that we won and they lost. And they never had designs on world domination, we did.

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David Mandel's avatar

Well articulated! This is a message we need to hear over and over through different authors' unique expressions until we internalize the core message.

My only small gripe is to draw a quote from Michael Walzer at the end of your essay. I say "small" because Walzer is an erudite scholar. However, he was wrong to call Israel's pager attack a very likely war crime. I was so irked by this wrongheaded judgment that I wrote about it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/tackle18/p/on-beep-beep-boom-walzers-dead-wrong?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=tzx9u

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Yehudah Ben Avraham's avatar

Mamdani is a huge wake up call. But there is one bigger: NYC Mayoral voter turnout. In 2021, it was 23%! That’s the opportunity! We need every decent and sane person in New York to STORM THE POLLS to stop this commie jihadist!

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Mark Akst's avatar

Agreed!

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Jesse Samuels's avatar

Well said!!

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Jan Jackson's avatar

Something else people may or may not be aware of is the Red Green Alliance which is the alliance between the left and radical Islam. Mamdani is part of it. Not only is he Muslim he is a Shia Twelver, the most prominent member being the Iranian Ayatollah. It kind of makes my blood run cold to think he could end up mayor of NYC.

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Dan's avatar

Beware Psyops at work. These people are being allowed through to destroy the moderate Left. This happened here in the UK in the 1980’s. Same today: moderate Labour is being damaged by Islamist Entryists, to help the Fascist Reform UK gather Working Class votes.

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Sarah's avatar

His name does sound Persian.

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Jan Jackson's avatar

I agree that stakes are national. Definitely fight back. You mentioned "Intifada.". How many people using the word do not actually understand what it means? I suspect some of them don't understand that it's violent, bloody and sometimes fatal. The recent events in Boulder and D.C. are examples of what it means to " Globalize the Intifada. " Mamdani seems to think the phrase can be justified. Shameful and unimaginable in the United States of America. Surely something in that can be used to dissuade people from voting for him. Then there is the 1st Amendment. Not only does it protect free speech, it protects people's right to practice their religion, something that rarely is mentioned. There needs to be alot more attention drawn to that. I could go on but stop.

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Avi Hoffman's avatar

FYI - Some DSA members condemned the rally: While the NYC DSA promoted the rally, Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that DSA member Zohran Mamdani CONDEMNED the rally's rhetoric on October 10th, stating his support for Palestinian liberation "should never be confused for a celebration of the loss of civilian life".

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

I apologize for being the skunk at the party here, but it's precisely the Michael Walzers of the Leftist professoriate and their sentimental utopian fantasies of "joining together and marching" to the promised land (!) that have backfired on American Jews and left them almost friendless and defenseless. "Tikkun olam" and its campaigns and their leaders have turned Jews into America's Mrs. Jellybys, always worrying about distant suffering while ignoring their own people and their needs and safety.

Jews marched, donated, organized and gave their blood for the Civil Rights movement and what did they get in return? The endless enmity of black leaders like Jesse Jackson, Sharpton and Farrakhan, and the Critical Race Theorists positing them as whiter than white people, meaning enemies who deserve only vengeance. Jews marched for every American minority group, moved to Israel kibbutzim to guide the Palestinians toward peaceful reconciliation, and what did it get them? Murdered, hated, even more vilified.

Jews don't need to prove that they're better, kinder or more moral than other people, and they definitely don't need to "heal the world", a preposterous impossibility that always backfires. Jews just need to stick up for themselves and their rights, esp the right to have their own state just like everyone else.

If the leaders of NYC Jews are slimy traitors like Chuck Schumer and Jerrold Nadler, it means that somehow the world's smartest people have elected the world's stupidest and sleaziest defenders. People don't respect liars and cowards, they respect those who fight for themselves and their people and principles. If Jews treated their apostates and traitors like liberals do, they wouldn't need to cower.

Stop being so nice and stop apologizing! It's time to fight like your life depends on it, because it just might.

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DEMedia is Propaganda's avatar

We have been warning for decades.

It has been clear it was coming since the '80s. Unless something was done to stop it it was inevitable

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Our history and traditions tell us that the more comfortable we feel in any of our stops in exile has a direct relationship and is a prelude to the rise in anti Semitism

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