Unfortunately, you did not mention that quite a few 'media outlets' in the "Free West" thought it worth mentioning that the hunt for Jews and the dozens of injured had a so-called "prehistory": some Israelis reportedly had taken down so-called "Palestine flags" and insulted Arabs or so-called "Palestinians". - After decades in which Jewish institutions in almost all European countries have had to be protected and guarded by the police, after countless hunts for Jews in European cities, after mass "demonstrations" "against Jews" and the State of Israel in London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin and other cities, after decades of cruel murderings of Jews and also of "Islam critics" by almost exclusively Islamic perpetrators all over the world, Europe and a.o. in the Netherlands, "journalists" seriously consider it worth mentioning and sayable that Muslim Jew-hating violent criminals and hordes supposedly still need a "motive", a "reason", an "inducement" to hunt, injure and kill Jews. Only Jews keeping quiet and "making no mistakes" may have - if they´re lucky - the right to remain unattacked, this is the message from it.
You make a good point. The 1938 Nazi Pogrom Night also had a “pretext” — the assassination, on 9 November 1938, of the German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris.
I didn't take it amiss that reporters noted reprehensible behavior on the part of some of the Israeli soccer fans. It's part of telling a factual story. Of course, the bad behavior doesn't excuse what the antisemitic gangs did, and what they did was incomparably worse, but hiding aspects of the story doesn't seem like good journalism.
Stop playing into the hands of the muslims and left-wing media. The people hiding aspects of the story are those who are the disgusting media outlets blaming the Jews. This attack was PRE-PLANNED before the soccer match. Also, the Israeli fans merely responded to abuse shouted by Palestinian demonstrators, who in their week of anti-Israel protests had already posed threats grave enough to cause the Amsterdam authorities to ban them from demonstrating near the soccer stadium. https://substack.com/home/post/p-151434435?source=queue
Writing about provocative behavior on the part of the Israelis isn't tantamount to saying the Israelis had it coming or that the attack was pre-planned. It's just part of the story, which is what responsible journalists are supposed to tell.
Once again, the Israelis did not engage in provocative behavior, the Israelis RESPONDED to abuse shouted by "palestinian" demonstrators. You are the one leaving out part of the story.
Geert Wilders has called it out & expressed disbelief that no one had been arrested. The 62 arrests happened prior to this. I also find it quite distasteful to see Jews approving of what happened. Then I saw people gathering & celebrating what happened. Plus, a 14 year old has told how he and his grandfather were stopped by the police for holding sticks to defend themselves; made to lie on the ground & started to kick them. Then when they got into the police car they saw the Free Palestine stickers - it’s not about a minority it’s about DAWAH
Pat, I thought the essay was wonderful as the message IMHO is an important one. Making equivalences that don't really exist or where circumstances are very different only seem to water down the gravity of the situation that is being addressed.
What happened in Amsterdam should not be compared to Kristallnacht for the reasons you gave. I couldn't help but think of those times when I heard Trump being called Hitler, that it weakened completely the position of the person trying to convince me not to vote for Trump. I just tuned out.
I want to end Pat by thanking you so much for supporting us and the state of Israel. People like you who speak up are the true heros in the PR war, Keep up the good fight.
While the attacks were not carried out with the initiation, backing and support of the government as was the case with Kristallnacht, the Dutch police, refusing or delaying in protecting the Jews in Amsterdam, and the Amsterdam authorities, who had ample warning of the attacks and failed to take the proper precautions- which would include firing and replacing police who had previously announced the would not protect Jews or Jewish institutions- were complicit in the tragedy. This gives the Kristallnacht comparison even more legitimacy. One should not expect Dutch or Amsterdam authorities to either punish the rioters or take actions that will prevent a future occurrence. The king’s new culpa unfortunately is mere words that will not be followed up with actions, certainly not unless the Netherlands is subject to international - meaning American - and other economic pressure and Consequences.
We should also ask who amongst the Dutch population actually engaged in Jew hunting. I would not be surprised if the vast majority were Moslem. Still the burning question remains where were the fucking police when all this happened. Apologies be damned. There should be resignations at the highest levels of the police and government if the Dutch government real gave a damn.
yup, the direct perps were mostly Muslims BUT I wartched 'bout 4-5 viddeyos of the SJWs of AmsTURD-DAMN praisin' their "good citizens" for fighting "back" against the insults of the revoltin' joos who mocked them...we all know in the noble race mockery triggers death so I guess the victims were lucky they could "keep their heads"... my overall take was that the Dutch mostly feel Israel/Bad Muslims/Good plus the police in AmsTURD-DAMN do not have to defend joos--true! It's an understandin' there that has nothin' ta do with this event--the police chief is in total agreement. So where were the police? RIGHT WHERE THE ACTION WAS! -watchin'! Enjoyin' the show! There's a viddeo circulatin' of a young gal with long hair who details her beggin' police to help her an' they said...NO. They told her ta go find "a big group" with her own pee-pull cuz that'd be her only protection. From all I gather Wilders did not know about Israel's call to their Ministry of Security askin' for police protection for the visitors BECAUSE of a known threat--the "noble" Minister didn't bother tellin' Wilders (why botha if he wasn't gonna do anythin' bout it...)--Wilders found out on "X" watchin' a video! Also true!
I'll be surprised if anyone gits fired... it's a nice wish firmly planted in the Windmills of Our Minds...
The Germans no longer call this night “Kristallnacht”. They call it “Reichpogromnacht”, or in English, “Nazi Pogrom Night”. Germans believe that “the night of broken glass” was invented by the Nazis to downplay that night. It was much more than broken glass. There were hundreds of murders, rapes, and soon after, suicides of desperate people. In Germany, using Kristallnacht to describe this event is condemned and they are hoping Americans will move toward a better name.
We have to admit that HASHEM has the control of everything everywhere all the time. Now it is the final battle of evil and good going on all the time . This today period is the” End of Days “ in Torah and Kabbalah. We have to understand that HASHEM is with this hard way preparing all civilisation for better future. Especially this period is uniting Jews more and more acting together. This is orchestrated chaos now , they try global revolution, global intifada. Over 3000 years ago David HaMelech bought Mount Moriah for the Temple because the Tabernacle ( Mishkan) was only in the tent and David lived in the cedar tree Palace. Over 3300 years ago At Sinai Ishmael and Esau rejected the Torah. Only Jews , first time as a nation, accepted the Torah. In near future we will see great Miracles to come . HASHEM Almighty has created this whole universe and all the creatures and all the nature . HASHEM will soon say how HE wants everything to be . There will be Second Revelation soon. Nobody can be silent now . The Third Temple and the Kingdom of Israel (Davidic Dynasty) are eternal and Sanhedrin will also be in the Third Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem Very Soon Baruch HaShem. It is most important to pray and pray, there are powerful effects with our prayers. The final peace will come only after Shechinah is dwelling in the Third Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem Very Soon Baruch HaShem.
So the King said they failed the Jews again? Words means nothing; I read that 69 Muslims were detained? The word should be deported!! No strong action will result in a repeat attack.
Unfortunately, you did not mention that quite a few 'media outlets' in the "Free West" thought it worth mentioning that the hunt for Jews and the dozens of injured had a so-called "prehistory": some Israelis reportedly had taken down so-called "Palestine flags" and insulted Arabs or so-called "Palestinians". - After decades in which Jewish institutions in almost all European countries have had to be protected and guarded by the police, after countless hunts for Jews in European cities, after mass "demonstrations" "against Jews" and the State of Israel in London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin and other cities, after decades of cruel murderings of Jews and also of "Islam critics" by almost exclusively Islamic perpetrators all over the world, Europe and a.o. in the Netherlands, "journalists" seriously consider it worth mentioning and sayable that Muslim Jew-hating violent criminals and hordes supposedly still need a "motive", a "reason", an "inducement" to hunt, injure and kill Jews. Only Jews keeping quiet and "making no mistakes" may have - if they´re lucky - the right to remain unattacked, this is the message from it.
Yes, this is not "then", this is Now.
You make a good point. The 1938 Nazi Pogrom Night also had a “pretext” — the assassination, on 9 November 1938, of the German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris.
Best Wishes, Dr Riemenschneider. You are right, I noticed this too. Good to see you on here.
I didn't take it amiss that reporters noted reprehensible behavior on the part of some of the Israeli soccer fans. It's part of telling a factual story. Of course, the bad behavior doesn't excuse what the antisemitic gangs did, and what they did was incomparably worse, but hiding aspects of the story doesn't seem like good journalism.
Stop playing into the hands of the muslims and left-wing media. The people hiding aspects of the story are those who are the disgusting media outlets blaming the Jews. This attack was PRE-PLANNED before the soccer match. Also, the Israeli fans merely responded to abuse shouted by Palestinian demonstrators, who in their week of anti-Israel protests had already posed threats grave enough to cause the Amsterdam authorities to ban them from demonstrating near the soccer stadium. https://substack.com/home/post/p-151434435?source=queue
Writing about provocative behavior on the part of the Israelis isn't tantamount to saying the Israelis had it coming or that the attack was pre-planned. It's just part of the story, which is what responsible journalists are supposed to tell.
Once again, the Israelis did not engage in provocative behavior, the Israelis RESPONDED to abuse shouted by "palestinian" demonstrators. You are the one leaving out part of the story.
The Evian Conference was the clear reason Israel must exist and be a sovereign state that controls its own immigration.
Geert Wilders has called it out & expressed disbelief that no one had been arrested. The 62 arrests happened prior to this. I also find it quite distasteful to see Jews approving of what happened. Then I saw people gathering & celebrating what happened. Plus, a 14 year old has told how he and his grandfather were stopped by the police for holding sticks to defend themselves; made to lie on the ground & started to kick them. Then when they got into the police car they saw the Free Palestine stickers - it’s not about a minority it’s about DAWAH
Pat, I thought the essay was wonderful as the message IMHO is an important one. Making equivalences that don't really exist or where circumstances are very different only seem to water down the gravity of the situation that is being addressed.
What happened in Amsterdam should not be compared to Kristallnacht for the reasons you gave. I couldn't help but think of those times when I heard Trump being called Hitler, that it weakened completely the position of the person trying to convince me not to vote for Trump. I just tuned out.
I want to end Pat by thanking you so much for supporting us and the state of Israel. People like you who speak up are the true heros in the PR war, Keep up the good fight.
papa j
Thank you Jerry.
While the attacks were not carried out with the initiation, backing and support of the government as was the case with Kristallnacht, the Dutch police, refusing or delaying in protecting the Jews in Amsterdam, and the Amsterdam authorities, who had ample warning of the attacks and failed to take the proper precautions- which would include firing and replacing police who had previously announced the would not protect Jews or Jewish institutions- were complicit in the tragedy. This gives the Kristallnacht comparison even more legitimacy. One should not expect Dutch or Amsterdam authorities to either punish the rioters or take actions that will prevent a future occurrence. The king’s new culpa unfortunately is mere words that will not be followed up with actions, certainly not unless the Netherlands is subject to international - meaning American - and other economic pressure and Consequences.
I agree with you. This dreadful act is
a harbinger and it must be acted on! Hope is running out. We must stand with the Jewish People. #I stand with you
I did not know about Evian!!!! It is making me cry. Fantastic article for the cogent points made; beautifully written.
Very thoughtful article. I appreciate the caution against drawing false comparisons and thus eroding nuance.
We should also ask who amongst the Dutch population actually engaged in Jew hunting. I would not be surprised if the vast majority were Moslem. Still the burning question remains where were the fucking police when all this happened. Apologies be damned. There should be resignations at the highest levels of the police and government if the Dutch government real gave a damn.
yup, the direct perps were mostly Muslims BUT I wartched 'bout 4-5 viddeyos of the SJWs of AmsTURD-DAMN praisin' their "good citizens" for fighting "back" against the insults of the revoltin' joos who mocked them...we all know in the noble race mockery triggers death so I guess the victims were lucky they could "keep their heads"... my overall take was that the Dutch mostly feel Israel/Bad Muslims/Good plus the police in AmsTURD-DAMN do not have to defend joos--true! It's an understandin' there that has nothin' ta do with this event--the police chief is in total agreement. So where were the police? RIGHT WHERE THE ACTION WAS! -watchin'! Enjoyin' the show! There's a viddeo circulatin' of a young gal with long hair who details her beggin' police to help her an' they said...NO. They told her ta go find "a big group" with her own pee-pull cuz that'd be her only protection. From all I gather Wilders did not know about Israel's call to their Ministry of Security askin' for police protection for the visitors BECAUSE of a known threat--the "noble" Minister didn't bother tellin' Wilders (why botha if he wasn't gonna do anythin' bout it...)--Wilders found out on "X" watchin' a video! Also true!
I'll be surprised if anyone gits fired... it's a nice wish firmly planted in the Windmills of Our Minds...
The Germans no longer call this night “Kristallnacht”. They call it “Reichpogromnacht”, or in English, “Nazi Pogrom Night”. Germans believe that “the night of broken glass” was invented by the Nazis to downplay that night. It was much more than broken glass. There were hundreds of murders, rapes, and soon after, suicides of desperate people. In Germany, using Kristallnacht to describe this event is condemned and they are hoping Americans will move toward a better name.
Bill, thank you. I was not aware of this nuance. I find this change in language fascinating and meaningful. I will research further.
Your essays are all excellent; this may be your best and most indispensable yet. I just shared it on FB.
Thank you.
excellent article.
We have to admit that HASHEM has the control of everything everywhere all the time. Now it is the final battle of evil and good going on all the time . This today period is the” End of Days “ in Torah and Kabbalah. We have to understand that HASHEM is with this hard way preparing all civilisation for better future. Especially this period is uniting Jews more and more acting together. This is orchestrated chaos now , they try global revolution, global intifada. Over 3000 years ago David HaMelech bought Mount Moriah for the Temple because the Tabernacle ( Mishkan) was only in the tent and David lived in the cedar tree Palace. Over 3300 years ago At Sinai Ishmael and Esau rejected the Torah. Only Jews , first time as a nation, accepted the Torah. In near future we will see great Miracles to come . HASHEM Almighty has created this whole universe and all the creatures and all the nature . HASHEM will soon say how HE wants everything to be . There will be Second Revelation soon. Nobody can be silent now . The Third Temple and the Kingdom of Israel (Davidic Dynasty) are eternal and Sanhedrin will also be in the Third Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem Very Soon Baruch HaShem. It is most important to pray and pray, there are powerful effects with our prayers. The final peace will come only after Shechinah is dwelling in the Third Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem Very Soon Baruch HaShem.
Nope. We do not have to admit that. Some of us don't believe that. I'm glad you do. But that argument doesn't do it for me. Sorry.
Agreed, Pat. Hashem did not stop the Holocaust. (Totalitarian) Religion is easily de-bunked.
So the King said they failed the Jews again? Words means nothing; I read that 69 Muslims were detained? The word should be deported!! No strong action will result in a repeat attack.
Two things:
You seem to assume that a Muslim and a Dutch citizen are mutually exclusive identities.
You should also be aware that, thankfully, the Netherlands remains a country with due process.
Given both these facts, perhaps we should wait more than four days before the deportations begin.
Politely disagree; perhaps they should await another attack at the next soccer game. I’m no expert, but strength is a strong deterrent.
Bravo
God bless Israel and all Jews
An important read:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151434435?source=queue
Thank you Laura.
An