Karen Cyphers, this is beautiful. I have been feeling and knowing this, and seeing it scientifically confirmed at least counters the gaslighting. Thank you!
I have been so affected by constant denial of Jewish suffering that I want to blog about what it's like to be a Jew right now. We'll see if that yearning converts to action. :-). Thank you for the time and care you took to confirm what feels so subtly present in so much media, these days.
So true. At my uni the prof who has called Jews filth and has thousands of anti semetic posts plus three human rights complaints. No sanction. Zip. Me? Called Hamas Nazis. Suspended 17 months. Will be fired.
Thank you so much for this carefully done study. I think it demonstrates how people, particularly students are taught to think about Israel/Palestine. The way this conflict has been framed in our media is completely in keeping with the entirely false narrative pushed by the former Soviet Union, the Republic of Iran, and now Hamas. These students and Democrats see the Palestinians as an oppressed class dispossessed of their land by white European Jewish colonizers, therefore the harassment is resistance, not dangerous antisemitism. Part of the solution must be to publicize the true narrative of Jewish history in Israel and the Arab conquests and immigration. Pointing out their antisemitism will be met with vociferous denial because they cannot see it.
The true narrative of the history of the Jewish people in Israel & the Arab conquests & immigration has been pointed out ad nauseam. You can shout it from the rooftops or quietly & intelligently show it archaeologically & with evidence in so many museums, not to mention the so called Old Testament. The big lie has been imprinted, the lie has become the truth to these people. IMO it is impossible to change it. I have lived with this oldest hate for as long as I can remember & I am 79 years old. Sad to say.
We all understand about anti-semitism. What is genuinely frightening in this is the degree to which the Palestinians have become seemingly immunized against any responsibility for anything among the left and particularly the student left. This is a result of deep deep indoctrination.
Mentioned but basically glossed over is that Republicans are consistent and don't seem to have fallen into the trap of seeing Palestinians as permanent victims who can bear no responsibilith and Jews as acceptable victims as the left has. I assume this would apply to all who regard themselves as conservative. Here is a potential way out but as long as the Palestinian as righteous victim/Jew as permanent oppressor is drilled into the heads of the young by tenured faculty nothing will change.
Well done. An excellent Empirical survey of the Anti-Semitism of The Left. The numbers speak the truth. Thankyou for sharing this. I suspect however the same is true about Racist attitudes amongst Ben Gvir and Smotrich supporters of Settlers on the West Bank, the only caveat being that racist attitudes in these Jewish groups might be explained by the Millenia of oppression Jews have suffered.
And when the “Jewish” groups, like JVP, J Street, the Reform, Reconstruction,Renewal activist rabbis side with the Hamas supporters on campus and fight the Trump administration withholding taxpayer funds from private universities that have endowments in the billions, uninformed non-Jews think they must be on “the right side” by siding with the Palestinians.
I just can't get used to the foundational principle of uniform application of law being broken like we are seeing since October 7. The proverbial Mockingbird is killed over and over every day
There has been a two-tiered "justice" system for years in the US and Canada. Discrimination runs rampant in our schools and universities, and it is called social justice. Criminals of preferred ethnic groups are back out on the street immediately no matter how horrific the crimes they commit. Did you not notice the weaponization of the legal system in its "get Trump" efforts? In Canada, indigenous criminals are sent to "healing circles," while Euro-Canadian protesters are arrested and jailed with their bank accounts frozen. In the US, BLM activists can burn cities down and ANTIFA thugs freely attack citizens. but go into the Capitol when the police open the door, and you will be thrown into solitary for years. There is no longer any Constitutional principle upheld in the US.
Thank you again. I wonder if you had picked Sudan instead of Haiti if you had would have gotten a similar result. You are well aware that life in Haiti is horrendous, but most people will not see it as an active war zone. It is not a country being destroyed by Jihadism, as are Sudan and Gaza.
Interesting! I actually thought about Sudan -- (had used it in a prior experiment that demonstrated a totally different set of double standards re: Israel) -- but landed with Haiti for a few reasons: it is a close match for Gaza as far as economic conditions, and Floridians (who were the sample for this study) are likely to be aware of the terrible conditions in Haiti at this moment. That said, Sudan would have been a solid pick -- maybe next time!
Karen, nicely done. The results of your surveys are not surprising. The results show two things: Jews are the universal scapegoat, so they are not treated equally (harsher) to others. Secondly, Palestinians are treated more leniently because their propaganda and lies over decades portray them as victims even when they are the aggressor. The power of brainwashing is incredible.
I'd like to see some consideration of the difference between intent and impact when discussing feelings of intimidation. There are also Jewish students who advocate for peace who do not feel intimidated but rather feel gaslight; I'd like to see some statistical analysis on that. There is also no mention of the conflation of criticism of Israeli military action with antisemitism, especially in light of the many Israelis, and members of their military, who feel that the response to October 23 has gone too far. And lastly there is the question of whether Jews are different or not. In general I find that quantitative analysis, though helpful in many situations, is inadequate to an understanding of any given situation and that there needs to be a qualitative analysis to bring the picture into focus.
I was a research scientist for 45 years. From the answers to at least the first 2 questions posed to the public, this study is flawed.
This study is not a clear indication of antisemitism but rather sympathy for Gazans.
I haven’t yet read the entire article, but the responses to the first 2 questions is actually partly comforting. The polls showed that, for Europeans intimidating Jews, the responses were close to the same as for intimidating black and lgbtq students.
The less sympathetic responses for a the situation where a Palestinian intimidates a Jewish student are sad, but clearly understandable because of all the media reports on the upheaval in Gaza, even though it was provoked by Hamas. Some of the public will support the « underdogs » even though Israelis were the first victims. At least the responses for those first two questions did not fall below 60% for a Palestinian intimidating a Jew.
Hi Gordon, did you finish reading? If so, I'm curious what you thought of Experiment 3, where a Palestinian student was portrayed as intimidating a gay student. Once again, there was significantly LESS sympathy for the perpetrator in that instance than in the case of intimidation against Jews.
Ideally Gordon, you’d want to run the same experiment prior to Oct 7 to verify your hypothesis (this is now a thought experiment). My guess is you’d get similar results suggesting that the double standards have been entrenched for many years (decades?). Of course, this is probably my own bias talking.
Agreed! Yes, the bias may have been ingrained because of reports of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, creation of a border wall through Palestinian olive orchards, etc. My guess is that the destruction in Gaza has had a far stronger effect. Not that I disagree with the goal of decimating Hamas, but I wish there were another alternative.
The hatred of Jews/Israelis started 2,000 years ago & has only increased using Palestinians & the destruction of Gaza as an excuse. I wish there was another way besides eradicating Hamas because it won’t stop there. Hezbolla, PIJ, the Houthi’s & the leadership of Iran. Let’s not forget the Muslim Brotherhood. Will it ever end?
Karen Cyphers, this is beautiful. I have been feeling and knowing this, and seeing it scientifically confirmed at least counters the gaslighting. Thank you!
I have been so affected by constant denial of Jewish suffering that I want to blog about what it's like to be a Jew right now. We'll see if that yearning converts to action. :-). Thank you for the time and care you took to confirm what feels so subtly present in so much media, these days.
Thank you, Suzanne... I hear you! And appreciate your kind words
So true. At my uni the prof who has called Jews filth and has thousands of anti semetic posts plus three human rights complaints. No sanction. Zip. Me? Called Hamas Nazis. Suspended 17 months. Will be fired.
No https://open.substack.com/pub/paulfinlayson/p/is-the-university-of-guelph-the-modern?r=iy2ds&utm_medium=ios
Everyone should be made aware of the insane and unjust targeting of Professor Paul Finlayson. The mob and the administration must be held accountable.
I hope you get political asylum in America. We need you.
I went to grad school in the US. Prefer it.
Thank you so much for this carefully done study. I think it demonstrates how people, particularly students are taught to think about Israel/Palestine. The way this conflict has been framed in our media is completely in keeping with the entirely false narrative pushed by the former Soviet Union, the Republic of Iran, and now Hamas. These students and Democrats see the Palestinians as an oppressed class dispossessed of their land by white European Jewish colonizers, therefore the harassment is resistance, not dangerous antisemitism. Part of the solution must be to publicize the true narrative of Jewish history in Israel and the Arab conquests and immigration. Pointing out their antisemitism will be met with vociferous denial because they cannot see it.
Thank you, Cynthia
The true narrative of the history of the Jewish people in Israel & the Arab conquests & immigration has been pointed out ad nauseam. You can shout it from the rooftops or quietly & intelligently show it archaeologically & with evidence in so many museums, not to mention the so called Old Testament. The big lie has been imprinted, the lie has become the truth to these people. IMO it is impossible to change it. I have lived with this oldest hate for as long as I can remember & I am 79 years old. Sad to say.
We all understand about anti-semitism. What is genuinely frightening in this is the degree to which the Palestinians have become seemingly immunized against any responsibility for anything among the left and particularly the student left. This is a result of deep deep indoctrination.
Mentioned but basically glossed over is that Republicans are consistent and don't seem to have fallen into the trap of seeing Palestinians as permanent victims who can bear no responsibilith and Jews as acceptable victims as the left has. I assume this would apply to all who regard themselves as conservative. Here is a potential way out but as long as the Palestinian as righteous victim/Jew as permanent oppressor is drilled into the heads of the young by tenured faculty nothing will change.
Thank you. Great article. Not that anyone will listen. We live in dark times.
Thanks, Francisco
Qatar's investment in the American indoctrination I mean educational system will pay off for them for generations.
Well done. An excellent Empirical survey of the Anti-Semitism of The Left. The numbers speak the truth. Thankyou for sharing this. I suspect however the same is true about Racist attitudes amongst Ben Gvir and Smotrich supporters of Settlers on the West Bank, the only caveat being that racist attitudes in these Jewish groups might be explained by the Millenia of oppression Jews have suffered.
And when the “Jewish” groups, like JVP, J Street, the Reform, Reconstruction,Renewal activist rabbis side with the Hamas supporters on campus and fight the Trump administration withholding taxpayer funds from private universities that have endowments in the billions, uninformed non-Jews think they must be on “the right side” by siding with the Palestinians.
This is a brilliant study, one I will be sharing with many. The breakdown of aggressor vs victim is perfect. Thank you for this.
Thank you, FJSN
I just can't get used to the foundational principle of uniform application of law being broken like we are seeing since October 7. The proverbial Mockingbird is killed over and over every day
There has been a two-tiered "justice" system for years in the US and Canada. Discrimination runs rampant in our schools and universities, and it is called social justice. Criminals of preferred ethnic groups are back out on the street immediately no matter how horrific the crimes they commit. Did you not notice the weaponization of the legal system in its "get Trump" efforts? In Canada, indigenous criminals are sent to "healing circles," while Euro-Canadian protesters are arrested and jailed with their bank accounts frozen. In the US, BLM activists can burn cities down and ANTIFA thugs freely attack citizens. but go into the Capitol when the police open the door, and you will be thrown into solitary for years. There is no longer any Constitutional principle upheld in the US.
Thank you again. I wonder if you had picked Sudan instead of Haiti if you had would have gotten a similar result. You are well aware that life in Haiti is horrendous, but most people will not see it as an active war zone. It is not a country being destroyed by Jihadism, as are Sudan and Gaza.
Interesting! I actually thought about Sudan -- (had used it in a prior experiment that demonstrated a totally different set of double standards re: Israel) -- but landed with Haiti for a few reasons: it is a close match for Gaza as far as economic conditions, and Floridians (who were the sample for this study) are likely to be aware of the terrible conditions in Haiti at this moment. That said, Sudan would have been a solid pick -- maybe next time!
Karen, nicely done. The results of your surveys are not surprising. The results show two things: Jews are the universal scapegoat, so they are not treated equally (harsher) to others. Secondly, Palestinians are treated more leniently because their propaganda and lies over decades portray them as victims even when they are the aggressor. The power of brainwashing is incredible.
I'd like to see some consideration of the difference between intent and impact when discussing feelings of intimidation. There are also Jewish students who advocate for peace who do not feel intimidated but rather feel gaslight; I'd like to see some statistical analysis on that. There is also no mention of the conflation of criticism of Israeli military action with antisemitism, especially in light of the many Israelis, and members of their military, who feel that the response to October 23 has gone too far. And lastly there is the question of whether Jews are different or not. In general I find that quantitative analysis, though helpful in many situations, is inadequate to an understanding of any given situation and that there needs to be a qualitative analysis to bring the picture into focus.
Not surprising. I'd like to see what would happen if the perpetrator of hate crime were say, Latino or from an African nation...
Hi Gina, good question! I just shared with Cynthia (above) that Sudan would have been a good choice to test against -- perhaps next time. Thanks!
Karen, excellent study! I applaud your work. I hope you receive some interest from a wider audience as this kind of research is sorely needed.
I was a research scientist for 45 years. From the answers to at least the first 2 questions posed to the public, this study is flawed.
This study is not a clear indication of antisemitism but rather sympathy for Gazans.
I haven’t yet read the entire article, but the responses to the first 2 questions is actually partly comforting. The polls showed that, for Europeans intimidating Jews, the responses were close to the same as for intimidating black and lgbtq students.
The less sympathetic responses for a the situation where a Palestinian intimidates a Jewish student are sad, but clearly understandable because of all the media reports on the upheaval in Gaza, even though it was provoked by Hamas. Some of the public will support the « underdogs » even though Israelis were the first victims. At least the responses for those first two questions did not fall below 60% for a Palestinian intimidating a Jew.
Gordon Cohen, PhD ‘74
Hi Gordon, did you finish reading? If so, I'm curious what you thought of Experiment 3, where a Palestinian student was portrayed as intimidating a gay student. Once again, there was significantly LESS sympathy for the perpetrator in that instance than in the case of intimidation against Jews.
Ideally Gordon, you’d want to run the same experiment prior to Oct 7 to verify your hypothesis (this is now a thought experiment). My guess is you’d get similar results suggesting that the double standards have been entrenched for many years (decades?). Of course, this is probably my own bias talking.
Agreed! Yes, the bias may have been ingrained because of reports of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, creation of a border wall through Palestinian olive orchards, etc. My guess is that the destruction in Gaza has had a far stronger effect. Not that I disagree with the goal of decimating Hamas, but I wish there were another alternative.
The hatred of Jews/Israelis started 2,000 years ago & has only increased using Palestinians & the destruction of Gaza as an excuse. I wish there was another way besides eradicating Hamas because it won’t stop there. Hezbolla, PIJ, the Houthi’s & the leadership of Iran. Let’s not forget the Muslim Brotherhood. Will it ever end?