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Jonathan Fletcher's avatar

There is a big difference that you are not acknowledging. The socio-theological worldview of post world-war II Germany is quite a bit different than that of the Islamo-Arab world. Their worldviews differ greatly on guilt and sin. The tradition of an understanding of sin made the German people realize that they had allowed their hatred to overrule their grace and they had sinned greatly. In the Islamic world “infidels” are appropriate recipients of divine just retribution and no “guilt” is necessary or even allowed. Please acknowledge that east-west differences in worldview make many calls to “rationality” moot.

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Josh Mark's avatar

I don't really believe in collective punishment. At least not in this case. Punishment implies the possibility of repair. When a murderer is put to death it's punishment because the idea is that the suffering has a corrective function both for the one put to death and the rest of a society that is capable of learning the lesson. There is no point in punishing the Gazans. Their leaders and their enablers need the punishment. All we can do with the Gazans is to relocate them to a place where they can get a new start. In the meantime, we must do everything that we can to stop them from killing us. If that involves killing them then that is their choice. They can just as easily lay down their weapons and surrender. They can return our hostages. The can hand over their leaders. They can pay reparations.

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