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Of the three great monotheistic faiths, Judaism is the oldest, the smallest, and the original, followed by Christianity in its various denominations, then Islam in its denominations. What sets Judaism apart is Jews feel no need to proselytize, to convert others, to insist the Jewish path is the only path to Hashem and to the afterlife. The Torah and Talmud make no mention of Christianity or Islam, say nothing negative about these latter faiths, and certainly do not state among its doctrines that only those who are Jewish can know Hashem. This does not make Judaism superior, but helps to explain why Jews have suffered so terribly over the centuries by those who pronounce they are doing so in the name of Christianity or the name of Islam. Jews have not persecutied Christians or Muslims for the sake of Judaism, the notion is absurd. But as the devil despised and tormented Job for his faith in Hashem despite calamities, so too does the devil despise and torment the Jewish people for our faith in Hashem despite calamities. So one must question, when they deride and torment Jews, are they not doing the work of the devil, the great deceiver?

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Truly relevant article.

Regarding the observations "Are our religions actually tribal warriors who cannot countenance the salvation of anyone but us? Do we see other religious groups as competitors, or as children of God who speak a different language? Did not one Creator make us all? Can we identify a true religion that unites a believer with the God who created all of us? Can we distinguish that from a cult that manufactures hatred and division? Do we believe our religion is superior to all others? Or can we see the gifts and beauties of the Holy Spirit in people who worship God differently?"

Any religion that espouses the 4 Theologies: Fulfillment, Replacement, Successionism, and Supremacist Theology needs the spiritual strength to face this legacy, repudiate it in principle, and put into practice their negation. You have astutely suggested most of the means do undo these spiritual sins in the paragraph just cited.

"Our reaction to God’s planting of Israel in your own land reveals our attitude not just towards Israel, but towards your God."

Tried to explain to a Morman acquaintance that God is not a Jewish God but a Universal Creator who just has an agreement with us. Does not mean that the Ens does not have agreements and expectations of other peoples.

Contrary to how the Arabs and their sympathizers view the 1917 Balfour Declaration, it was not a granting of land to the Jews but a recognition of the land as the Jews' national homeland.

"a papal document that announced, in front of God and everybody, that you Jews did not have to convert to Christianity to be saved."

THis is a Christocentric view of Judaism. We do not have to be saved as we are not born sinners or lost. What is expected of us is to do what HaShem asked of us — in one nutshell, observe the 10 Commandments, in another, as Hillel the Elder (d 10 CE) said to a student who wanted the entire Torah to be explained while he stood on one foot, "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation of this—go and study it!"

"It is impossible for us to stomach the possibility that perhaps you know our Jesus better than we do, follow him more authentically than we do, and study his Scripture and chant the prayers that our Church has completely forgotten."

It is simpler for us. You know the bumper sticker that says "My God's father was a carpenter", for us we say God is the father of the carpenter — and everyone else, thus our Hebrew expression we were created "B'tzelem Hashem," in the likeness (not image. The word for image appears in the phrase "Image of God" where the word for graven image is "pesel." is (See in Exod 20:3 https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0220.htm?6c763e848c). Ultimately, it is enough for us to pray to the God your God prayed to. How can one go wrong with that!

Pardon the pun, but your analysis of the Jews for Jesus movement, and its offshoot, Messianic Judaism nailed it.

"“Cursed is he who does the work of the LORD deceitfully” (Jeremiah 48:10 - New King James Version)"

Interestingly the Hebrew English version of Jeremiah 48:10 reads "Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD with a slack hand, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood." Quite different.

To Jewish ears, the expression "You already have the God we know as Jesus" is a bit of a contradiction in terms because Jesus was a mortal (he died. Didn't matter that he supposedly came back; he still died) while God is immortal.

"Our reaction to you is our reaction to your God."

He is not our God, As Creator of the \Universe, He is the God of all.

"God created us with an insatiable desire to learn, to master, to study, to explain, to understand, and with that drive He gives us infinite subject material, Himself."

Sublime. Thank you.

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