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Susan Hirshorn's avatar

Although it's easy to see how being part of a "secret side chat" can make one crazy - those of us with fertile minds (and which Jewish mind ISN'T fertile?) must be able to express ourselves. I, too, am grateful for my politically conservative leanings. However, I staunchly refuse to limit my thinking about Israel to secular ideology from the galut. Because the galut lacks the G-d given wisdom of our Jewish scriptures. Because Israel - the Israel that emerges from this horrific war - must be something new; something that not only secures Israel better than we have secured her for the last 75-odd years but also brings the world closer to the Redemption.

Some of my ramblings about this "new Israel" expressed in this forum have not been liked, even by readers who typically “like” my comments. In fact one reader - a non-Jew claiming to be a friend of Israel - called me delusional because I emphasized the strengthening of a Jewish majority in the Jewish homeland. Because I called for considering the needs of the many Diaspora Jews fleeing 1930s style anti-Semitism over the needs of non-Jewish refugees from Syria, Lebanon and such.

Our scriptures describe the Messianic era as one involving an ingathering of Jews to the Holy Land. But I fear the world (even our friends) will do all it can to “shrink” Israel - both geographically and in terms of Jewish influence. Karol, I would appreciate your asking the folks in your “secret side chat” to answer this question: Is there anything wrong with an Israel that puts Jews - and Judaism - first? Clearly, this is a matter to be discussed privately, and certainly feverishly. My brain needs a rest.

Na'amah Devine's avatar

In 2011 Israel did a prisoner exchange for a single hostage IDF soldier named Gilad Shalit in exchange for hundreds of Hamas terrorists including one Yahya Sinwar.

We knew this would happen we just didn't know when.

Rabbi Shifren talked about it on this song we recorded together in 2011:

https://www.soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11201087

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